Rumor: AVS Proposals/Rumors/Free Agents & Roster Moves (related topics) ‎

[Iceberg]

As I said earlier, they cannot take his contract.

I don't know, they have plenty of cap space, and the actual money difference between Duchene and let's say Zibanejad is "just" 2.75 M next season.

Maybe we could convince them to throw in Methot to help them out with the money, and of course in this case we would send them Holden to fill his void.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Ottawa was offered Duchene in the past, has the cap space, have the depth to offer up good pieces. But they might not have the money.

Tampa would have a big need for Duchene if they lose Stamkos, they would have the cap space, they have players with a good amount of playoff experience, and they have a good prospect pool - including Drouin. But all this depends on Tampa losing Stamkos

Toronto have the need for Duchene, have the cap space, and have lots of futures to offer. But they might not have the right roster pieces for a trade and Duchene might be a bit older than players they might be trying to target.

Islanders have a need for Duchene, have the cap space, they can offer up a young, establish, cost controlled top-4 defenseman(Hamonic). But they might prefer getting a defenseman in return.

Philly have been bold, aggressive, and impatient in the past. Hextall is a borderline crazy. They have a very deep group of young talented defenseman. But they might not have the cap flexibility.

i think the expansion draft will make isles wanting forward in return.

if expansion draft is next season, they would have 4 dman they want to keep and who would likely have to be protected; even if they trade hamonic. and they have lot of forwards they would want to protect so they really can't/shouldn't go with 8 skater protection. if they trade hamonic for dman, they would be pretty much guaranteed to lose one of them AND another dman and a forward too. or pay, very very big compensation for expansion team not to take one of them. if they trade for a forward, they'd only lose one good dman but they can keep the others and all their good forwards.

whether or not should the avs trade duchene on a deal based around hamonic, is a different thing. and if they want it because they have a guy like barzal who they seem to be high on and he reminds me of duchene a lot.

i agree with your reasoning on other teams.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I don't know, they have plenty of cap space, and the actual money difference between Duchene and let's say Zibanejad is "just" 2.75 M next season.

Maybe we could convince them to throw in Methot to help them out with the money, and of course in this case we would send them Holden to fill his void.

Methot is their FB, they need him badly. While his age makes him somewhat of a throw in for us when talking Duchene. Hes not for them.

 

[InjuredChoker]

I know Ceci is still young, but he's really not all that good. I always got the feeling the Avs loved Zibanejad though.

that's the feeling i also get when i watch him (ceci). sens fans overrate the heck out of him.

he's more of a project like zadorov than legit top 4 guy.

 

[Iceberg]

Methot is their FB, they need him badly. While his age makes him somewhat of a throw in for us when talking Duchene. Hes not for them.

I was kind of being sarcastic about that part, like you i doubt they would trade Methot.

But who knows?

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

They can, but they won't. Melnyk's a cheapskate who forces Murray to run the club on a budget.

He was fine up until he got a divorce and stopped caring about his toy.

I don't know, they have plenty of cap space, and the actual money difference between Duchene and let's say Zibanejad is "just" 2.75 M next season.

Maybe we could convince them to throw in Methot to help them out with the money, and of course in this case we would send them Holden to fill his void.

They were ordered to shed cap in the summer... you want them to add almost 3 million a season? Melnyk would NEVER do it.

To add to this, the Sens will be losing Hoffman this offseason only because he's due for a raise.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I was kind of being sarcastic about that part, like you i doubt they would trade Methot.

But who knows?

Yeah, who knows anything really. Maybe they could actually pull OEL out of AZ using Duchene and all will be right in the world.

This off-season is going to be damn stressful

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Dreger just said there will be Duchene trade speculation heading into the draft.

 

[CB Joe]

The Avs just can't go a year without one of their centers being a main point of focus on the main boards.

 

[RockLobster]

Dreger just said there will be Duchene trade speculation heading into the draft.

I think there was a decent chance of that anyway, without what happened last night.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Honestly a fresh start for Duchene might not be such a bad thing for him. I'd hate to see him go and the Avs would be a worse team (barring some kind of miracle return) but a guy with his type of character, skill and determination given a new opportunity with an organization that has some sort of structure could be insane for him.

 

[agentblack]

Come to NY Matty so I can be a Rags fan again.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Honestly a fresh start for Duchene might not be such a bad thing for him. I'd hate to see him go and the Avs would be a worse team (barring some kind of miracle return) but a guy with his type of character, skill and determination given a new opportunity with an organization that has some sort of structure could be insane for him.

Send him to AZ, just before they move to Seattle, and so do I...

WA rivals Colorado in trout fishing,

 

[The Merchant]

The Avs just can't go a year without one of their centers being a main point of focus on the main boards.

It's our curse for having two of the best centers to ever play, on the same team, for so long.

 

[CobraAcesS]

It's our curse for having two of the best centers to ever play, on the same team, for so long.

If those curses exist, Pittsburgh fans are all going to hockey hell in less than 10 years.

 

[Avs_19]

From MacKinnon, Duchene, O'Reilly, and Stastny to MacKinnon, Soderberg, Grigorenko(?), Duchene's replacement (who won't be as good), etc.

Our main and maybe only strength to a weakness in three years.

 

[AvsCOL]

Yeah **** it, who needs a 30 goal centreman these days anyways...

 

[Pokecheque]

I guess that'll teach Matt not to demand any sort of trade protection on a long-term deal...

 

[Boulder Avalanche]

Yeah, who knows anything really. Maybe they could actually pull OEL out of AZ using Duchene and all will be right in the world.

This off-season is going to be damn stressful

If that deal is out there I would do it. The Avalanche with OEL are a different team.

 

[JoemAvs]

If that deal is out there I would do it. The Avalanche with OEL are a different team.

Might as well dream about Crosby or McDavid.

About as likely IMO.


The only way we have a chance at getting OEL is if we win the lottery and Arizona desperately wants to get their hands on hometown hero Matthews to sell some tickets.


Duchene will fetch slightly more than ROR if he gets traded.

Something like Zibanejad + Chabot/Ceci + 2nd or something.

And I would absolutely hate that deal and the Avs would lose it big time.


But that happens if you want to make a trade for all the wrong reasons...

 

[Alex Jones]

Duchene would be worth more than that.

I would rather not move him, but a shutdown Swedish second line of Zibanejad Soda and Landeskog does appeal to me. Avs desperately need a defensive line.

 

[Iceberg]

Might as well dream about Crosby or McDavid.

About as likely IMO.


The only way we have a chance at getting OEL is if we win the lottery and Arizona desperately wants to get their hands on hometown hero Matthews to sell some tickets.


Duchene will fetch slightly more than ROR if he gets traded.

Something like Zibanejad + Chabot/Ceci + 2nd or something.

And I would absolutely hate that deal and the Avs would lose it big time.


But that happens if you want to make a trade for all the wrong reasons...

I think the Yotes GM aready said they wouldn't trade OEL for Matthews.

 

[Bone Breaker]

Dreger just said there will be Duchene trade speculation heading into the draft.

maybe the Avs can send him to Toronto? but instead Bozak and a 2nd, we get Gauthier and a 1st? pretty sure Gauthier with his size would be Roy`s new favorite toy. with that 1st we draft Laine.

then we could even entertain sending Iginla for Zetterberg and Mackinnon for Barkov. voilá!

Laine - Barkov - Rantanen
Landeskog - Soderberg - Zetterberg

 

[henchman21]

Zibi is underrated at this point. A Zibi + Ceci/Chabot + deal isn't terrible for Duchene. The big problem with it is that Ceci nor Chabot solve the issue on defense next year and Duchene to Zibi is a downgrade. The Avs would have to make a couple additions up front to fill the hole that Duchene leaves.

 

[agentblack]

hey man just turn around and trade Ceci for Drouin. Ceci and the 1st??? eh? put down the tomatoes!!!