Confirmed with Link: Avs bring back McJLD on a 2-year, 2-way deal

[Balthazar]

Very much so.

And not just McDonalds. Fast food prices went through the roof in the last 4 years. Used to be able to eat at cheap places for $10-$12. Now it's $18-$20.

 

[redacted]

We had great experience in Trinidad. People were so friendly, invited us to their house to a Nuggets watch party and crash over for a night as we were looking for a campground. They even drove us over the hill to Raton NM as the winds were CRAZY that time.

Other than that, southern part of Colorado wasn't that great.

I really like both Trinidad and Alamosa. They aren't the nicest and cleanest towns in the world, but cool areas and good people. And the Sangre de Cristos are just crazy beautiful and not ran through like many of the ranges in Colorado. One day people will probably wake up to the area, but I hope it isn't soon.

Yeah Raton can be crazy windy... any area where there is a dip between mountains to the west just rips on the wind. To the west of Raton, you'd find some of the biggest elk in all of North America. Just absolute monsters and plentiful. The more you know.

 

[Murzu]

And not just McDonalds. Fast food prices went through the roof in the last 4 years. Used to be able to eat at cheap places for $10-$12. Now it's $18-$20.

Yeah.. in California they promise $20/hour for starting wage for McDonalds employees. Thats teachers salary in Finland. Inflation in the States has been crazy.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Yeah.. in California they promise $20/hour for starting wage for McDonalds employees. Thats teachers salary in Finland. Inflation in the States has been crazy.

McDonalds in most other parts of the world have higher wages than North America but cheaper prices, better menus, and are cleaner.

If you're going to grab a burger in North America the big fast food chains are terrible value. Like paying 2.5 million for a Miles Wood level of value.

 

[Murzu]

I really like both Trinidad and Alamosa. They aren't the nicest and cleanest towns in the world, but cool areas and good people. And the Sangre de Cristos are just crazy beautiful and not ran through like many of the ranges in Colorado. One day people will probably wake up to the area, but I hope it isn't soon.

Yeah Raton can be crazy windy... any area where there is a dip between mountains to the west just rips on the wind. To the west of Raton, you'd find some of the biggest elk in all of North America. Just absolute monsters and plentiful. The more you know.

I really felt like giving up on cycling on the day when we cycled from Raton to Cimarron and the winds were blowing over 100mph towards us all the time.

Those places are beautiful. I'd imagine people will figure it out eventually.

McDonalds in most other parts of the world have higher wages than North America but cheaper prices, better menus, and are cleaner.

If you're going to grab a burger in North America the big fast food chains are terrible value. Like paying 2.5 million for a Miles Wood level of value.

In n Out is amazing, but that's an exception. Don't know if you classify that as a big fast food chain though.

 

[Balthazar]

Yeah.. in California they promise $20/hour for starting wage for McDonalds employees. Thats teachers salary in Finland. Inflation in the States has been crazy.

As a Canadian, I'm stunned at US prices... they are the same (or more) as Canadian prices now but they have a stronger dollar. Like the same grocery items cost more in USD than in CAD...which is pretty sick considering that 1 CAD = 0.73 USD.

My sister gets paid in CAD but she often has to work in the US...so when she's south of the border everything is ridiculously expensive because of inflation and the exchange rate.

 

[redacted]

Yeah.. in California they promise $20/hour for starting wage for McDonalds employees. Thats teachers salary in Finland. Inflation in the States has been crazy.

That a legislative thing in California, and causing some commotion. Most states are well below that. Though 14-15 is not at all uncommon.

McDonalds in most other parts of the world have higher wages than North America but cheaper prices, better menus, and are cleaner.

If you're going to grab a burger in North America the big fast food chains are terrible value. Like paying 2.5 million for a Miles Wood level of value.

It isn't particularly comparable. Many of those countries don't have to have employer sponsored health care and they don't have to matching payroll taxes to the extent of the US. In the US a rule of thumb is the wages represent about 60% of the total compensation of an employee. So $20 per hour is really about ~$33 in total cost. Many countries wages represent 80% or more of total comp because the social safety net is held up as a whole by the gov'ts rather than through employment. Even in Canada which is closer to the US than say Sweden or France, they are pushing upper 70s.

A real solid case could be made that socializing health care would be one of the strongest steps the US could make in combating inflationary pressure and improving the business environment for the business and the employee. There is just absolutely zero chance it will happen politically.

Not trying to take this political, just saying comparing how the US handles wages in service industries and those translating to costs is vastly different than many other countries.

 

[willy702]

As a Canadian, I'm stunned at US prices... they are the same (or more) as Canadian prices now but they have a stronger dollar. Like the same grocery items cost more in USD than in CAD...which is pretty sick considering that 1 CAD = 0.73 USD.

My sister gets paid in CAD but she often has to work in the US...so when she's south of the border everything is ridiculously expensive because of inflation and the exchange rate.

This sure sounds incorrect to me. I'm spending a month in Calgary right now and supermarket and fast food prices are a little more than Denver prices even after converting to USD. It's not significantly more but in most cases it's about 10% more. And this is shopping at Superstore. Going to Safeway or Co-op is much worse. And of course gas and most other consumer things are more expensive than back at home. About the only thing that's a good value is Tim's as that's cheaper than Dunkin back at home.

I think people just like to complain about prices these days. It's more than before for sure but this whole fast food is only for the rich story is utterly ridiculous.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

This sure sounds incorrect to me. I'm spending a month in Calgary right now and supermarket and fast food prices are a little more than Denver prices even after converting to USD. It's not significantly more but in most cases it's about 10% more. And this is shopping at Superstore. Going to Safeway or Co-op is much worse. And of course gas and most other consumer things are more expensive than back at home. About the only thing that's a good value is Tim's as that's cheaper than Dunkin back at home.

I think people just like to complain about prices these days. It's more than before for sure but this whole fast food is only for the rich story is utterly ridiculous.

Eh, I think it depends on the specific area. In Alaska, fast food has gotten incredibly overpriced for what it is and has been doing so for quite some time up here. In fact, it's often cheaper for me and the wife to go to a restaurant and have a nice sit down meal than it is to stop at McDonalds on the way home from work. Obviously, I'm not talking about steak and lobster here, but we can go get Cuban, Greek, Thai, Korean, Japanese and Mexican cheaper. There are plenty of restaurants that are much more expensive, but plenty of great mom and pop restaurants are cheaper than fast food up here.

 

[Ceremony]

Honest question, has there ever been a player on the Avs that you didn't like?

No.

Although Kyle Quincey upset me when he claimed all our players had their bags packed and were looking to get out the door, and Ryan Stoa as well, who took a shot as us after he left the organization, also disappointed me.

 

[Pokecheque]

Pueblo is pretty awful. Southern Colorado as a whole (sans Durango area) is rather impoverished (by American standards) and grimey. There is some beautiful landscape that is rather untouched though.

All I remember is that the rink there was pretty nice to play in but the rest of the town was a dump.

 

[Frenchy]

No.

Although Kyle Quincey upset me when he claimed all our players had their bags packed and were looking to get out the door, and Ryan Stoa as well, who took a shot as us after he left the organization, also disappointed me.

it's OT i'm sorry , but i didnt realise that the Avs drafted Stoa one spot ahead of Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

 

[MacKaRtin]

it's OT i'm sorry , but i didnt realise that the Avs drafted Stoa one spot ahead of Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

I mean, the last 20 posts have also been off topic unless you consider McDonald's and Jacob MacDonald to be related

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

No.

Although Kyle Quincey upset me when he claimed all our players had their bags packed and were looking to get out the door, and Ryan Stoa as well, who took a shot as us after he left the organization, also disappointed me.

To be fair to Stoa the Avs put him in a position to fail. The Avs should have concentrated on developing Stoa into a top line ECHL forward.

Instead they messed with his development as a second rate minor leaguer by playing him in NHL games.

 

[Pokecheque]

Bah...Stoa. Good thing the Avs did much better with their next pick in that draft.

 

[redacted]

Bah...Stoa. Good thing the Avs did much better with their next pick in that draft.

It is honestly insane on how much better they were at drafting in the early years. Number of NHLers who played 200+ NHL games:

1995 - 2
1996 - 4
1997 - 3 (one more with 197)
1998 - 4
1999 - 2 (one more with 199)
2000 - 2
2001 - 3
2002 - 2
2003 - 2
2004 - 1
2005 - 1
2006 - 1
2007 - 3
2008 - 0
2009 - 3
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 2
2014 - 0
2015 - 1
2016 - 1
2017 - 1

From 1995 to 2008, none of those picks were higher than 12. From 2010 to 2017, only 1 was not a top 10 pick (Butcher)

 

[expatriatedtexan]

It is honestly insane on how much better they were at drafting in the early years. Number of NHLers who played 200+ NHL games:

1995 - 2
1996 - 4
1997 - 3 (one more with 197)
1998 - 4
1999 - 2 (one more with 199)
2000 - 2
2001 - 3
2002 - 2
2003 - 2
2004 - 1
2005 - 1
2006 - 1
2007 - 3
2008 - 0
2009 - 3
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 2
2014 - 0
2015 - 1
2016 - 1
2017 - 1

From 1995 to 2008, none of those picks were higher than 12. From 2010 to 2017, only 1 was not a top 10 pick (Butcher)

One thing to keep in mind is the state of drafting in the 90s and early 00s compared to today.

Datsyuk went undrafted in 96 and 97 before finally going 171st in 1998. Zetterberg was drafted 210th overall (7th round) in 99. For us...Hejduk was a 4th rounder. Drafting has gotten so much better that all these guys go in the first now. Good to great players simply do not fall to the lower rounds any more.

 

[redacted]

One thing to keep in mind is the state of drafting in the 90s and early 00s compared to today.

Datsyuk went undrafted in 96 and 97 before finally going 171st in 1998. Zetterberg was drafted 210th overall (7th round) in 99. For us...Hejduk was a 4th rounder. Drafting has gotten so much better that all these guys go in the first now. Good to great players simply do not fall to the lower rounds any more.

It certainly has gotten better and more predictable, but that should actually help the Avs success in the late 1st to 2nd rounds.

We also still have some crazy instances of stars falling... Bread never being drafted, Kaprizov in the the 5th, Point in the 3rd, Kuch in the late 2nd, Gaudreau in the 4th, Stone in the 6th.... it still happens with solid regularity.

 

[Murzu]

It is honestly insane on how much better they were at drafting in the early years. Number of NHLers who played 200+ NHL games:

1995 - 2
1996 - 4
1997 - 3 (one more with 197)
1998 - 4
1999 - 2 (one more with 199)
2000 - 2
2001 - 3
2002 - 2
2003 - 2
2004 - 1
2005 - 1
2006 - 1
2007 - 3
2008 - 0
2009 - 3
2010 - 0
2011 - 1
2012 - 0
2013 - 2
2014 - 0
2015 - 1
2016 - 1
2017 - 1

From 1995 to 2008, none of those picks were higher than 12. From 2010 to 2017, only 1 was not a top 10 pick (Butcher)

Damn we were elite.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

It certainly has gotten better and more predictable, but that should actually help the Avs success in the late 1st to 2nd rounds.

We also still have some crazy instances of stars falling... Bread never being drafted, Kaprizov in the the 5th, Point in the 3rd, Kuch in the late 2nd, Gaudreau in the 4th, Stone in the 6th.... it still happens with solid regularity.

I mean, sure it should help the Avs in the first round or two, but because they absolutely suck at evaluating young talent what this has done is robbed them of the chance of being accidentally right on someone who fell much, much lower than they should have.

This is a team that took Jost at #10. Unforgivable.

 

[Sea Eagles]

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58 points in 253 (including playoffs) games, and he still made me eat a worm ! haha
The club told me back then, they showed the video on the team bus, to much laughter !

 

[expatriatedtexan]

58 points in 253 (including playoffs) games, and he still made me eat a worm ! haha
The club told me back then, they showed the video on the team bus, to much laughter !

Man, whenever I think about watching this all unfold here live I get the biggest grin on my face. It's an instant trip to a memory that raises my spirits no matter where I'm at in the moment. You handled the whole thing with such grace. I know lots of folks who will say something like that, but very few are honorable enough to try a new protein source when push comes to shove.

My hat is permanently tipped to you hoss.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

58 points in 253 (including playoffs) games, and he still made me eat a worm ! haha
The club told me back then, they showed the video on the team bus, to much laughter !

I remember you eating the worm as I was on the Avs' team main board at the time but I can't recall the actual bet. Could you remind us guys that have not as good a memory as others here?

 

[Sea Eagles]

I remember you eating the worm as I was on the Avs' team main board at the time but I can't recall the actual bet. Could you remind us guys that have not as good a memory as others here?

Someone claimed Kevin Porter was 100% going to score the game winning goal that night.

Bear in mind, we had players like Forsberg, Fleischmann, O'Reilly, Shattenkirk, Stewart, Jones, Hejduk, Stastny and Duchene among others in the team at times that year. Given these players, I thought the likelihood was pretty stretching hahaha. I promised that if he scored the game winning goal, I'd go out back, grab a big ol' Aussie worm in my backyard and devour it alive and on video.....BIG mistake !

Anyways, the rest is history, and I literally ate crud for it hahahaha.

I'm a firm believer if you make a commitment, be prepared to follow through. NEVER lie. Well, yeah.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

Someone claimed Kevin Porter was 100% going to score the game winning goal that night.

Bear in mind, we had players like Forsberg, Fleischmann, O'Reilly, Shattenkirk, Stewart, Jones, Hejduk, Stastny and Duchene among others in the team at times that year. Given these players, I thought the likelihood was pretty stretching hahaha. I promised that if he scored the game winning goal, I'd go out back, grab a big ol' Aussie worm in my backyard and devour it alive and on video.....BIG mistake !

Anyways, the rest is history, and I literally ate crud for it hahahaha.

I'm a firm believer if you make a commitment, be prepared to follow through. NEVER lie. Well, yeah.

Yeah I remember now. I was quite sure you were safe with that bet as well. No offense but in a way I was glad you lost that bet because it made for a very entertaining moment.