Friedman: Avs are not done yet: looking at forwards

[SeanMoneyHands]

What's the price Crosby and Marchand to Colorado?

 

[Lockin17]

We don't want Anderson no matter what. Even with retention for just future considerations.

You can save yourself some time by dropping it. We do not want the player.

Same thing was said about Drouin ,, look at where he plays now ,, on your first line !!

 

[zizbuka]

It's gonna end up being Coutourier, Nelson or Dvorak. :p

The AVs really want Coutourier. Honest, they really, really want him.............

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Same thing was said about Drouin ,, look at where he plays now ,, on your first line !!

We never said that about Drouin...

 

[Sasha Orlov]

They need a guy like Rantanen

 

[Three On Zero]

Nucks fans still think they are getting a quality player like necas for miller

Necas also shouldn’t get you a player like Rantanen, but here we are.

 

[Lockin17]

We never said that about Drouin...

Come one now,, you guys were saying that you would never trade Drouin for a bag of pucks.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Come one now,, you guys were saying that you would never trade Drouin for a bag of pucks.

Nah. I think we had hopes we would do exactly what we did: scoop him up on the cheap because of the Mack connection once you guys ran him out of town

 

[John Mandalorian]

Same thing was said about Drouin ,, look at where he plays now ,, on your first line !!

Drouin was a free agent.

 

[MoreLikeTurdCrapley]

Anyone check on that eccentric fellow who worried about the "Greedment?"

 

[lionsDen]

If Colorado does intend on using Necas at center, I wonder if Mittelstadt and futures to Pittsburgh for Rakell makes sense. It would allow Colorado to run with this top-9 when healthy:

Drouin-MacKinnon-Rakell
Lehkonen-Necas-Nichushkin
Colton-Drury-O'Connor

While it gives the Penguins a long-term 2C to replace Malkin after next year and more futures. IMO that 3rd line does need a bit more help but that top-6 looks lethal.

No interest

 

[thefutures]

Anyone else catch Friedman say that the avs are not comfortable spending to the new cap limit? Gotta think that will piss off Mack if true

 

[lionsDen]

Anyone else catch Friedman say that the avs are not comfortable spending to the new cap limit? Gotta think that will piss off Mack if true

If they ain’t in it to win it, time to sell the team.

 

[Foppberg]

Anyone else catch Friedman say that the avs are not comfortable spending to the new cap limit? Gotta think that will piss off Mack if true

I'd assume that's to do with being mindful of Cale extensions & Landy/Nuke uncertainty.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Anyone else catch Friedman say that the avs are not comfortable spending to the new cap limit? Gotta think that will piss off Mack if true

You clearly misunderstood what he said.

The Avs are spending well over the cap this year, close to next years cap quite frankly.

 

[thefutures]

If they ain’t in it to win it, time to sell the team.

Yea I was surprised to hear that, I am trying to find the clip again to make sure I heard it right. It was on sportsnet panel

 

[Miro4Norris]

They need a guy like Rantanen

Yeah, Rantanen, Pastrnak, Draisaitl type finisher. But hey, teams just don't give up players like them on their prime years.

 

[Dead Coyote]

I would do Gourde for Mittelstadt in a heartbeat, and I would be incredibly impressed if that managed to be pulled off, even if there was something else coming from us too (I don't see Gourde having that kind of value even if I think he can fetch a 1st himself at the deadline).

 

[BKarchitect]

I would do Gourde for Mittelstadt in a heartbeat, and I would be incredibly impressed if that managed to be pulled off, even if there was something else coming from us too (I don't see Gourde having that kind of value even if I think he can fetch a 1st himself at the deadline).

Agreed. I love Gourde as a 3C at this point but I think that is a ridiculous sell low on Mittelsdadt. There’s a better chance of CM finding his form and being a legit 2C option at this point than Gourde being able to perform the task.

There is a world in which the Avs can update short term at 2C but I hate selling low on Casey - I think it would be a mistake and I think he’s already shown he’s more than capable in role both in Buffalo and Colorado.

 

[thefutures]

You clearly misunderstood what he said.

The Avs are spending well over the cap this year, close to next years cap quite frankly.

Found the segment. Listen from the 4:50 mark. He is saying this trade is a sign the Avs won't be comfortable using all their cap as it goes up or did I misunderstand that? Like another poster said could be cause of LTIR uncertainty but it could also be kroenke, he cheaped out last couple years on the nuggets too.

 

[Thechozen1]

Posted it in the other thread, but:

Miller for Mittlestadt, Drury, multiple non-1st round picks

VAN can then make follow-up moves. They may keep Mittlestadt and/or Drury, they might move one or both for an upgrade at C or D.

Avs end up with these lines:

Drouin-MacK-Necas
Lehk-Miller-Nichushkin (eventually)
Wood-Colton-O'Connor
Kelly-Parssinen-Kiviranta

Hahaha! The Avalanche are not getting JT Miller for a package of those two players. That’s a dreamland trade that won’t happen in reality.

 

[Thechozen1]

I’ve been saying:

Mitts+Ritchie

Kadri+ Andersson

makes a lot of sense for both teams. But the Flames never make moves that are short term losses.

That’s horrible for the Flames. WOW!!!

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Found the segment. Listen from the 4:50 mark. He is saying this trade is a sign the Avs won't be comfortable using all their cap as it goes up or did I misunderstand that? Like another poster said could be cause of LTIR uncertainty but it could also be kroenke, he cheaped out last couple years on the nuggets too.

I think he's just saying that there will be a group of teams that won't be comfortable spending to the cap. I don't think he's saying the Avs are necessarily in that group, or that trading Rantanen is a sign of anything like that. I can see how you think he's implying something, but it really feels totally unrelated to me.

Even with the cap going up, the Avs still have Makar's contract coming up, which is going to be huge, and will be signing/resigning guys as the cap hits go up. They should have no trouble staying pretty close to the cap for the foreseeable future, even if they aren't right up against it.

I think what this trade really signifies is that the Avs don't think you can be successful with 40+% of the cap tied up in 3 players, which is where they were headed. This lets them spend money on upgrades for other parts of the lineup, and I'm hoping the pro scouts have a few more tricks up their sleeves to do just that.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

I think he's just saying that there will be a group of teams that won't be comfortable spending to the cap. I don't think he's saying the Avs are necessarily in that group, or that trading Rantanen is a sign of anything like that. I can see how you think he's implying something, but it really feels totally unrelated to me.

Even with the cap going up, the Avs still have Makar's contract coming up, which is going to be huge, and will be signing/resigning guys as the cap hits go up. They should have no trouble staying pretty close to the cap for the foreseeable future, even if they aren't right up against it.

I think what this trade really signifies is that the Avs don't think you can be successful with 40+% of the cap tied up in 3 players, which is where they were headed. This lets them spend money on upgrades for other parts of the lineup, and I'm hoping the pro scouts have a few more tricks up their sleeves to do just that.

Sakic will point to the fancy analytics card that shows Makar without MacKinnon is basically a Walmart version of Gostisbehere. And Makar will sign for 9 millions. Easy.

 

[Viking10]

Sakic is President now it’s McFarland who is the GM of the Avalanche, His 3rd year in role