GDT: Avalanche vs Sabers (12/03/24) @5:00PM (Extra Emergency GDT) Buffalo Wings are delicious.

SirLoinOfCloth

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I say ride Wedgewood for a while, but there's a hiccup in that plan. This weekend. B2B on Saturday and Sunday. Either we need a George replacement before then, or we see George again at least once this week.
 
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I’m just not exactly sure what CMac is waiting for. The whole world knows Georgiev is bad and needs to be replaced. Go get a Blackwood or Gibson or someone. Blackwood is actually making less than Georgiev if CMac is worried about cap space
Exactly this. It's really not hard, we get semi passable goaltending we look fine. When we don't, which is most nights, it's an absolute shit show.

George simply doesn't give the team a chance in like 75% of his starts.

Not sure how anyone could just keep running him out there.
 

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Well at least the Avs tightened up some of their coverage after George got pulled.

I don't think Avs win that game against 95% of the league, but Buffalo is going to Buffalo which is nice
 

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I’m just not exactly sure what CMac is waiting for. The whole world knows Georgiev is bad and needs to be replaced. Go get a Blackwood or Gibson or someone. Blackwood is actually making less than Georgiev if CMac is worried about cap space

I think it's pretty easy to say but if I had to guess what a conversation for Blackwood would be at the moment, I think it's something like this :

CMac - "Hey Mike, I'd like to talk to you about MacKenzie Blackwood, what do you think - can we make a deal?"

MGrier - "Well, Blackie is playing phenomenal right now and we're a rebuilding team...I can tell that you're desperate and since you're NOT edmonton, I'm really ready to take you to the cleaners on this one. You don't have a 1st round pick this year do you, well I think it would take your 2026 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick? Oh - and I don't want that garbage starter you've got going on right now either stinkin' up my team - maybe if we're looking to OUT-TANK another team later in the year".
 

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I really don't like the challenge call by Bednar. The whole point of goalie interference is if the player interfered with the goalie prohibiting him from making a save. It was pretty obvious that's not what happened on this particular play. There was some contact, but it didn't impede Georgie's play on the puck. If George would have made any sort of effort to try to go backwards or even get across then I think it would have been a smart challenge, but because he quit on the play there is no way we were going to win that.
 
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I really don't like the challenge call by Bednar. The whole point of going interference is if the player interfered with the goalie prohibiting him from making a save. It was pretty obvious that's not what happened on this particular play. There was some contact, but it didn't impede Georgie's play on the puck. If George would have made any sort of effort to try to go backwards or even get across then I think it would have been a smart challenge, but because he quit on the play there is no way we were going to win that.
I can see the rationale--they recently had a goal called back because a player was in the paint and made contact with the goalie, the problem was that with Thompson, he was going for a rebound, the initial shot pinged off the crossbar (I think). Ever since that night against Toronto (the one where Auston Matthews got so mad when it got called back he made a mock "it's a good goal" call gesture when he scored again later in that game) they clarified the rule later and said a player is entitled to go after a loose puck, even if he makes contact with the goalie while doing so.

So, I don't really blame anyone there, Bednar took a chance, and it didn't work. In the end, it didn't make any difference.
 
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Man, the talk about the Buffalo Sabres (did not realize this loss was the first in franchise history after going into the 2nd period with a 4-0 lead) has been nuclear apocalypse levels of doom. Glad to see the Avs are making an impression.
To be fair, this one was bad. Having a 4-0 lead after the 1st period where you limited the Avs to 2 scoring chances and 0 high danger chances should have been the end of the game.

They could have stacked the blue line the rest of the game playing a 1-4 trap and probably won.

Instead they couldn't string passes together anymore and the Avs skated them to death, and that's in a game where Cale Makar looked very bad. The vaunted Joel Kiviranta line potted 2 goals in 3 minutes on them.

Owen Power is not a great defensemen. He likely can be a 3/4 defensemen for his career but man oh man it was a bad idea to pay that guy right away. Ditto Dylan Cozens, who looks every bit like an AHLer both last season and this season.
 

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To be fair, this one was bad. Having a 4-0 lead after the 1st period where you limited the Avs to 2 scoring chances and 0 high danger chances should have been the end of the game.

They could have stacked the blue line the rest of the game playing a 1-4 trap and probably won.

Instead they couldn't string passes together anymore and the Avs skated them to death, and that's in a game where Cale Makar looked very bad. The vaunted Joel Kiviranta line potted 2 goals in 3 minutes on them.

Owen Power is not a great defensemen. He likely can be a 3/4 defensemen for his career but man oh man it was a bad idea to pay that guy right away. Ditto Dylan Cozens, who looks every bit like an AHLer both last season and this season.
Cozens and Power should be traded
 

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To be fair, this one was bad. Having a 4-0 lead after the 1st period where you limited the Avs to 2 scoring chances and 0 high danger chances should have been the end of the game.

They could have stacked the blue line the rest of the game playing a 1-4 trap and probably won.

Instead they couldn't string passes together anymore and the Avs skated them to death, and that's in a game where Cale Makar looked very bad. The vaunted Joel Kiviranta line potted 2 goals in 3 minutes on them.

Owen Power is not a great defensemen. He likely can be a 3/4 defensemen for his career but man oh man it was a bad idea to pay that guy right away. Ditto Dylan Cozens, who looks every bit like an AHLer both last season and this season.
Yeah, I agree, they jumped the gun horribly on those two. Sign Dahlin, fine, but to lock those two down long-term in a desperate attempt at excess contract value was just plain stupid.

Power's defense in front of the net is worse than Zadorov's was when he was in Colorado.

Cozens and Power should be traded
Easier said than done. If they do so they won't likely be getting a good return, certainly not right now the way both are playing.
 
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You have to believe he's been working the phones for a while. That's probably how the Wedgewood trade happened. What I've heard is San Jose is actually in not rush to trade Blackwood, because they want the team to do better this season. They also know, like Anaheim does, that there's lots of demand out there for competent goaltending, so they hold all the cards. You can't force other teams to trade you their goaltenders, unless of course you're suggesting that CMac should make a crazy offer, which would earn him even more criticism than he's getting now.
I think CMac will face more criticism if the Avs miss the playoffs compared to if he pays a big price for a goalie. There is actually a chance we miss the playoffs if Georgiev continues to get starts.
 
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My Mama used to say: When your team is down by 4 after the first period,
turn off the TV and go to bed!

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I’m just not exactly sure what CMac is waiting for. The whole world knows Georgiev is bad and needs to be replaced. Go get a Blackwood or Gibson or someone. Blackwood is actually making less than Georgiev if CMac is worried about cap space
Two issues:

1. Georgiev has negative net value
2. The whole world knows Georgiev is bad and needs to be replaced

The two guys everyone is clamoring over are on teams that have no need to offload them quickly, sans maybe the Sharks. CMac is the desperate party and in that goes all of his leverage in negotiations. I'm sure the calls have been made, but the asking prices haven't exactly been fair market value. Luckily, Georgie being on an expiring contract should help ease the process along when or if a trade is agreed upon.
 

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