Auston Matthews is one of the worst even-strength scorers in the entire league

[tfwnogf]

He'll rebound, pot 50+ ez then demand a trade to Arizona where he belongs

 

[Martin Skoula]

He'll rebound, pot 50+ ez then demand a trade to Arizona where he belongs

It's cool of Arizona to change their arena to the half-rink Matthews grew up practicing on in preparation for this.

 

[Russiansniper]

Ridiculous thread. He will probably score 10 in his next 5 games and all will be normal again.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I wish I had a time machine, so that I could go back in time and never read this thread.

 

[tfwnogf]

It's cool of Arizona to change their arena to the half-rink Matthews grew up practicing on in preparation for this.

anything to accommodate a generational goal scorer

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Hey he's pulling Zibanejad who also only has 2 EV goals. Trade 1 for 1 who says no?

 

[TGWL]

He's averaged around 30 even strength goals / year since entering the 2016-2017 season. I'm not sure we can call him the worst even strength scorer in the entire league just because he's not currently scoring this season.

 

[leafsfan5]

He's been bad (relative to expectations). He's shooting unsustainably low but is using his wrist shot less than last year. I'm honestly not sure why he's not using his best weapon

But he'll likely rebound and finish with 50+. He's the best even strength goal scorer in the league and it's not really close

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Where are the mods?

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Where are the mods?

For what? You can just scroll past the thread if it doesn't tickle your fancy ya know.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

For what? You can just scroll past the thread if it doesn't tickle your fancy ya know.

Because this is a trash thread with no merit? Ya know?

 

[hamzarocks]

Well Erik Karlsson stole his abilities nothing he can do now

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Because this is a trash thread with no merit? Ya know?

I mean, all the OP did was state facts and back them up with numbers even if the context is misplaced.

 

[KeydGV21]

He's peaked at the ripe old age of 25?

You’re surprised he peaked in the dead middle of the age bracket where 95% of players peak?

 

[valet]

he’ll prolly still score 45-50 goals this year tbh

 

[abo9]

He's peaked at the ripe old age of 25?

Is this so unnatural?

Ovechkin peaked pre-24. 4x100 pts seasons all before 25, best 2 goalscoring seasons before 25 (including 65 goals).

Stamkos won his last individual award (Rocket, 60 goals) at the ripe age of 21. Despite scoeing 106 pts last year (most pts in his career), his peak was definitely pre-25

Crosby scored 4x 100 pts seasons before turning 23, 1x at 26 and 1x at 31. His individual awards days were mostly done by 26, his peak was also clearly pre-25.

Malkin hasnt score 100 pts since being 25, he did it 3 times in his career. Latest individual awards was at 25.

Thise are just 3 examples, but data also support this "peaking at 25" for forwards - actually around 23 I think has been found as the average peak year (sorry I dont have a source Im on my phone, but a google search can lead one to find this info from different people doing the analysis).

But, there seems to be a plateau/small decrease around 24-25 until 30 where performances start declining more rapidly.

That's even strength. For PP, its more of an increase until 25 and then a plateau or very small decrease until end of career.

That said, Matthews is not an average, he's an individual. He could very well peak later (look at Marchand!), but, to suggest that he has peaked is pretty sensible.

 

[Rob Brown]

I mean, all the OP did was state facts and back them up with numbers even if the context is misplaced.

He provided one stat (# of EV goals) while conveniently ignoring relevant stats like shooting % which would have framed the entire thread differently.

 

[King Karl]

Is this so unnatural?

Ovechkin peaked pre-24. 4x100 pts seasons all before 25, best 2 goalscoring seasons before 25 (including 65 goals).

Stamkos won his last individual award (Rocket, 60 goals) at the ripe age of 21. Despite scoeing 106 pts last year (most pts in his career), his peak was definitely pre-25

Crosby scored 4x 100 pts seasons before turning 23, 1x at 26 and 1x at 31. His individual awards days were mostly done by 26, his peak was also clearly pre-25.

Malkin hasnt score 100 pts since being 25, he did it 3 times in his career. Latest individual awards was at 25.

Thise are just 3 examples, but data also support this "peaking at 25" for forwards - actually around 23 I think has been found as the average peak year (sorry I dont have a source Im on my phone, but a google search can lead one to find this info from different people doing the analysis).

But, there seems to be a plateau/small decrease around 24-25 until 30 where performances start declining more rapidly.

That's even strength. For PP, its more of an increase until 25 and then a plateau or very small decrease until end of career.

That said, Matthews is not an average, he's an individual. He could very well peak later (look at Marchand!), but, to suggest that he has peaked is pretty sensible.

I stand corrected.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Is this so unnatural?

Ovechkin peaked pre-24. 4x100 pts seasons all before 25, best 2 goalscoring seasons before 25 (including 65 goals).

Stamkos won his last individual award (Rocket, 60 goals) at the ripe age of 21. Despite scoeing 106 pts last year (most pts in his career), his peak was definitely pre-25

Crosby scored 4x 100 pts seasons before turning 23, 1x at 26 and 1x at 31. His individual awards days were mostly done by 26, his peak was also clearly pre-25.

Malkin hasnt score 100 pts since being 25, he did it 3 times in his career. Latest individual awards was at 25.

Thise are just 3 examples, but data also support this "peaking at 25" for forwards - actually around 23 I think has been found as the average peak year (sorry I dont have a source Im on my phone, but a google search can lead one to find this info from different people doing the analysis).

But, there seems to be a plateau/small decrease around 24-25 until 30 where performances start declining more rapidly.

That's even strength. For PP, its more of an increase until 25 and then a plateau or very small decrease until end of career.

That said, Matthews is not an average, he's an individual. He could very well peak later (look at Marchand!), but, to suggest that he has peaked is pretty sensible.

Stamkos Crosby and Malkin all got serious injuries going into a mini dead puck era in the mid 2010s where scoring and PP time dried up, might have something to do with it.

 

[AvroArrow]

He scored 44 ES goals in 73 games last year, I think he'll be fine but thank you for your concern.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

He provided one stat (# of EV goals) while conveniently ignoring relevant stats like shooting % which would have framed the entire thread differently.

Well if he would score more his shooting % would be higher. Kind of the entire point of Op’s thread no?

Given his TOI and the fact he only has 2 ES goals kind of backs up the claim. I would say the title, at this point in time for this season alone is pretty accurate.

 

[Mirka the Turka]

Auston Matthews is like HFboards favorite player to attack for no reason whatsoever

I remember the other game some random nobody was coming to try to fight him and he just laughed it off, like many superstars do, and people attacked him because his teammates came to protect him from this nobody. I'm like, how many fights has McDavid been in or any other superstar for that matter. Surprisingly, they get no criticism for not fighting. And these guys shouldn't be fighting, they are there to play hockey.

People just hate on Auston Matthews for no reason. He's the second best player in the NHL, and the best goal scorer by far. He's our generations Ovechkin.

 

[AvroArrow]

Well if he would score more his shooting % would be higher. Kind of the entire point of Op’s thread no?

Given his TOI and the fact he only has 2 ES goals kind of backs up the claim. I would say the title, at this point in time for this season alone is pretty accurate.

Of course you do

 

[Rob Brown]

Well if he would score more his shooting % would be higher. Kind of the entire point of Op’s thread no?

Given his TOI and the fact he only has 2 ES goals kind of backs up the claim. I would say the title, at this point in time for this season alone is pretty accurate.

Yes, he's shooting 6% lower than his career average, so wouldn't that indicate that he's just been snakebitten/unlucky/started off slow this year rather than the 'worst even strength scorers in the entire league'? He's still averaging over 4 shots per game this year, similar tor last season. If he was shooting at 17% like last season and shooting way less per game, I might agree that he has regressed at least compared to last season. There's also plenty of 'star' players with VERY low shooting %'s - how are they considered goal scorers?

Calling the guy that has (I believe) the most 5v5 goals since he joined the league the 'worst even strength scorers in the entire league' is incredibly disingenuous and likely intended to stir up trolls, which we've already seen in this thread.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

Of course you do

Well ya I do. Want to know why? Because the numbers don't lie.