News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

[Racer88]

Literally what I said I was agreeing with.

Lol. I guess I shouldn’t jump in the middle of a conversation without reading it all
hahahahaha

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

Correct. I'm even fine with 12.7 so he's the highest paid.

What is the big deal with these guys and being highest paid when it lasts for a short time (except McDavid) most of the time? I still think if AM has not learned by now that whatever "extra" he takes is coming from another player on his team then he will never learn. I think the ask from their camp is all you need to know about his priorities. It really is plain and simple.

 

[Nineteen67]

What is the big deal with these guys and being highest paid when it lasts for a short time (except McDavid) most of the time? I still think if AM has not learned by now that whatever "extra" he takes is coming from another player on his team then he will never learn. I think the ask from their camp is all you need to know about his priorities. It really is plain and simple.

We hear about the players association encouraging guys to take as much as they can, but with the cap all it does screw the little guy that can be sent up and down to save daily cap dollars.

We’ve heard players from around the league chuckle at the Leafs cap situation , so let’s see what they do. AM is not the best player in the NHL and may not even be top 5 and he’s proven that he gets lost in big games.

 

[Nineteen67]

Is Matty going to be the next own rental? .... they dont sign him that is the end of Shanny.

They have to trade him if he won’t sign.

 

[KPower]

3 x 13

 

[ShaneFalco]

Even Spezza would step up and push back. Not AM though, he'll get rag dolled and laugh. Says it all, about the whole team really . Dubas made everyone comfy and paid so why go to war ?

 

[pcruz]

Even Spezza would step up and push back. Not AM though, he'll get rag dolled and laugh. Says it all, about the whole team really . Dubas made everyone comfy and paid so why go to war ?

Why do people keep pushing this tired and stupid narrative that is so far outside reality?

It's really pathetic that there are many dead set on making things up to to rile up the moronic masses who have no critical thinking ability.

A quick search disproves this theory.
At the time when Toronto was eliminated, Matthews was one of the most physically engaged players of the 16 teams.

I wonder what people like this get out of pushing lies....


Weird to me.

 

[WillNy29]

Why do people keep pushing this tired and stupid narrative that is so far outside reality?

It's really pathetic that there are many dead set on making things up to to rile up the moronic masses who have no critical thinking ability.

A quick search disproves this theory.
At the time when Toronto was eliminated, Matthews was one of the most physically engaged players of the 16 teams.

I wonder what people like this get out of pushing lies....


Weird to me.

makes them feel good about some kind of straw man they created but instead of arguing agains that straw man they argue in favour of it. confuses the hell out of me.

 

[Antropovsky]

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Even Spezza would step up and push back. Not AM though, he'll get rag dolled and laugh. Says it all, about the whole team really . Dubas made everyone comfy and paid so why go to war ?

Oreilly doesn't fight but he plays physical, he also is a smythe winner. Matthews engaged physical, more so than a lot of elite players. In fact there are at least 3 goals in the past two lightning series where Matthews physical play creates the goal. He also blocks more shots then typical elite players. Think he's still up there among top players.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Its easy to second guess after the fact.

You told everyone you were so much smarter than we were Shanahan. You were right. We were wrong.

The thing you can brag about most so far?

Coming in last place in the league. So you could draft Matthews. After nine years, NINE YEARS, you're entire tenure is defined by failure and loss.

Should we be grateful you lost enough games to draft Matthews? A franchise centreman and generational superstar? The best goal scorer in the league?

Who was then signed to such a wonderful contract?

His best years are being wasted anyway. Better for him to move on asap. I wouldn't hold it against him.

So tell me, is that what the fans should be grateful for, Mr. President?

We should put up a statue in your honour. Set it on a pedestal. Give it a prominent place in town square.

Present you with a crown of bay leaves.

Anoint you in olive oil. Bow down at your feet. I'd wash them with my hair while I was down there.

But I don't have any.

You're probably thinking right now that maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't have done it.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Here's some breaking news: it's not hindsight when everyone, literally everyone, including me, a fan, told you it wouldn't work in the first place.

I suspect that even you must be second guessing this strategy by now.

Even a fool becomes wise after the fact.

 

[Hellcat]

They have to trade him if he won’t sign.

22 days to trade this generations Ovechkin ... tick tock ... this like everything else will have a very Leafy stink to it. Why cant Leaf fans have anything nice?

 

[Hellcat]

We hear about the players association encouraging guys to take as much as they can, but with the cap all it does screw the little guy that can be sent up and down to save daily cap dollars.

We’ve heard players from around the league chuckle at the Leafs cap situation , so let’s see what they do. AM is not the best player in the NHL and may not even be top 5 and he’s proven that he gets lost in big games.

Right logically speaking there is $83.5 million per team, almost every team spend to the cap. If one player makes $15 mil and the team spends to the cap or the entire team makes 4+ mil each and spends to the cap, there is no "more" money for the players, it works out to the same in the end.

 

[Niagara Bill]

14 days to find out if he stays. By June 22 he must agree to new contract or Treliving MUST begin looking for a trade partner. Leafs cannot allow him to walk.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Why do people keep pushing this tired and stupid narrative that is so far outside reality?

It's really pathetic that there are many dead set on making things up to to rile up the moronic masses who have no critical thinking ability.

A quick search disproves this theory.
At the time when Toronto was eliminated, Matthews was one of the most physically engaged players of the 16 teams.

I wonder what people like this get out of pushing lies....


Weird to me.

Yeah players say it, they're too easy to play against, management talks about lack of a killer instinct and sticking up for eachother, we've seen countless times when players skate away after seeing someone get nailed into the biards, face-washed etc . It happened with Knies and Kampf in the playoffs. But a couple of homer posters see. it differently and everyone else is wrong. AM may play physical at times but not nearly enough. And don't get rag dolled and smile. Now go back to your high horse

 

[81Leafs50]

Fact: Matthews lied to management about the mooning incident
Fact: Matthews father promoted and participated in the furtherance of that lie.
Fact: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

There is a distinct lack of character exhibited in all that.

Fact

LMAO your not a leafs fan

 

[ACC1224]

Why do people keep pushing this tired and stupid narrative that is so far outside reality?

It's really pathetic that there are many dead set on making things up to to rile up the moronic masses who have no critical thinking ability.

A quick search disproves this theory.
At the time when Toronto was eliminated, Matthews was one of the most physically engaged players of the 16 teams.

I wonder what people like this get out of pushing lies....


Weird to me.

When you can be so far in the minority on a view the mature approach is to reassess your view instead of insulting others.

 

[Trapper]

14 days to find out if he stays. By June 22 he must agree to new contract or Treliving MUST begin looking for a trade partner. Leafs cannot allow him to walk.

Matthews is not going to be traded unless he goes to management and says I’m leaving like Tkachuk. If he says nothing, he won’t be moved. Assume he has a NMC right now.
Matthews will either re-sign or walk. There is no middle.

 

[pcruz]

When you can be so far in the minority on a view the mature approach is to reassess your view instead of insulting others.

No you don't.

Just because everyone else in the country is convinced that the Earth is flat doesn't mean I have to accept it as fact.

That's quite possibly the worst motivation to take a stance on any subject - "lots of others are doing/saying/feeling the same, so I should too".


The truth is that Matthews was 2nd on the team in hits among forwards, got into a fight while holding 3 hockey sticks, led in blocked shots and did almost everything he did in the playoffs in the dirty areas.

There was nothing soft about his game these playoffs.


Who was tougher to compare him to? Tkachuk? Eichel?

MT had 4 more hits in 1 extra game played compared to AM.

Eichel had barely more than half the hits Matthews had.

The same way I held firm that Kessel was not the problem on this team throughout his entire tenure here, I say the same now about this dumb take.

 

[justashadowof]

22 days to trade this generations Ovechkin ... tick tock ... this like everything else will have a very Leafy stink to it. Why cant Leaf fans have anything nice?

When Ovechkin signed his 13 year extension with the Capitals in 2008 that took him into 8 years deep into unrestricted free agency, he got almost 19% of the Capitals cap hit. That would be about $15.9M aav based on next season's cap. I'd drop that percentage somewhat as Ovechkin's deal contains 5 prime years and Matthews isn't quite Ovechkin in terms of durability, physicality and consistency. I can see how $14M aav (16.8% of the cap) for 8 years is on target with how a player like this gets paid. As a cap percentage of Matthews' previous deal (14.64%), it's $12.2M.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Matthews is not going to be traded unless he goes to management and says I’m leaving like Tkachuk. If he says nothing, he won’t be moved. Assume he has a NMC right now.
Matthews will either re-sign or walk. There is no middle.

But he doesn't have the necessary until July 1.
If I was gm, no contract by June 22, I start calling teams, like Arizona.
AM does not want to go to a loser like Arizona, so sign up or go to the bottom.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

A much higher standard than Mack you say? I took the numbers over the last 7 yrs for both players....since Matthews started......we wont get into the fact that Mack plays with fire and has won a cup.

Regular Season
Nate.. 491gms 225g 381a 606pts
Matthews 481gms 299g 243a 542 pts

Playoffs
Nate 77gms 44g 56a 100pts
Matthews 50gms 22g 22a 44pts


I might be wrong but didnt Marleau tell him to keep the incident to himself?

I think da /leafs have already told Matty they won't go higher than MAC .. but even da numbers tell any hockey guy that Matty really should not even get a raise .. he is lucky to make 11.6M per AAV with front loaded bonuses no one else even sniffs .. but he will get 12.6M as 1C's are hard to come by .. over that and it is trade time folks just on principle

 

[Niagara Bill]

No you don't.

Just because everyone else in the country is convinced that the Earth is flat doesn't mean I have to accept it as fact.

That's quite possibly the worst motivation to take a stance on any subject - "lots of others are doing/saying/feeling the same, so I should too".


The truth is that Matthews was 2nd on the team in hits among forwards, got into a fight while holding 3 hockey sticks, led in blocked shots and did almost everything he did in the playoffs in the dirty areas.

There was nothing soft about his game these playoffs.


Who was tougher to compare him to? Tkachuk? Eichel?

MT had 4 more hits in 1 extra game played compared to AM.

Eichel had barely more than half the hits Matthews had.

The same way I held firm that Kessel was not the problem on this team throughout his entire tenure here, I say the same now about this dumb take.

AM is not the biggest problem for sure, he is a great player.
What is a problem is allowing him to walk for nothing in return. Now that would be more stupid than trading him.
If he leaves, Treliving, Shanny, Tanebaum (sp) all all done. Shanny was duped by Dubas, cannot allow that to happen with AM.

 

[hullsy47]

AM is not the biggest problem for sure, he is a great player.
What is a problem is allowing him to walk for nothing in return. Now that would be more stupid than trading him.
If he leaves, Treliving, Shanny, Tanebaum (sp) all all done. Shanny was duped by Dubas, cannot allow that to happen with AM.

I agree if any of the 3 walk shanny must be fired

 

[ACC1224]

No you don't.

Just because everyone else in the country is convinced that the Earth is flat doesn't mean I have to accept it as fact.

That's quite possibly the worst motivation to take a stance on any subject - "lots of others are doing/saying/feeling the same, so I should too".


The truth is that Matthews was 2nd on the team in hits among forwards, got into a fight while holding 3 hockey sticks, led in blocked shots and did almost everything he did in the playoffs in the dirty areas.

There was nothing soft about his game these playoffs.


Who was tougher to compare him to? Tkachuk? Eichel?

MT had 4 more hits in 1 extra game played compared to AM.

Eichel had barely more than half the hits Matthews had.

The same way I held firm that Kessel was not the problem on this team throughout his entire tenure here, I say the same now about this dumb take.

Everyone believes the world is flat?

The fact that he was picking up sticks instead of engaging in the scrum is what makes him soft. Which wouldn't be as big a deal if the majority of the team wasn't the same. IMO, at his size and skill he needs to play more like a Lindros. Bring out the bull in a china shop once in a while.

Number of hits is a pretty useless stat.

 

[PromisedLand]

does this mean that no superstar should ever earn top dollar in the NHL?

Really depends what n how you define a “superstar”

- regular season warrior with not much n playoffs is a superstar?

- if the said superstar cannot score are they bringing in any other element to change the course of the game in the post season?

bottom line is you gotta show compete not just in regular season but also post season. Gotta bring other elements to the ice if offensive production is not there. For comparison you can compare Ovi, Draisaitl, McDavid, Tkachuk, Mack, etc… basically when they are not scoring they are crashing and banging along the boards and making their line mates better and giving their team a chance to win. Do you really think Tavares, Matthews and Marner when not scoring bring any other element for success? Just look at our playoff history; heck just look at 2nd round tilt against panthers for recent example