News Article: Auston Matthews - August 1st., Contract Crickets

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I beg to differ. His body language screams indifference which spells doom in any sport. Now maybe if he was paid - that may spark his interest. I have seen enough of his body of work to confidently state I dont ever think we'll win with him as our biggest cap hit player period. Many may differ....but just look at the results, they dont lie. This guy needs to be traded to the team of his choice & with his ok (because we bumbled the opportunity prior to July 1st) or severely overpay him to stay & continue to accept failure. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. I would do the same to Nylander & MM....we need a different core. The REAL problem here is Shanny & or the board and what they are telling him....we arent privy to what they care about. Surely ticket sales is #1 ahead of a winner & AM fills our overpriced seats. Such a shame.
With or without Matthews seats are being filled in Toronto and on the road.
Toronto doesn't need him and he really doesn’t need Toronto. The Leafs are the only team that can sign him now so he’d be crazy not use that as leverage.
 
With or without Matthews seats are being filled in Toronto and on the road.
Toronto doesn't need him and he really doesn’t need Toronto. The Leafs are the only team that can sign him now so he’d be crazy not use that as leverage.
Agreed & I think he will use it & ultimately walk unless we overpay to his satisfaction. And I thought WN was a mercenary...this guy puts him to shame....
 
Agreed & I think he will use it & ultimately walk unless we overpay to his satisfaction. And I thought WN was a mercenary...this guy puts him to shame....
I always thought he’d be a great fit in Vegas, but l’m not sure they need him or how they could fit him in.
I don’t think he’s a mercenary. It’s not unethical to ask the Leafs to pay more based everything associated with playing in Toronto. He has choices.
 
Which was already addressed above, by another poster. Funny you lack an ability to read and comprehend, where it doesn't suit you.

Now you're pretending to be physic? You knew another poster will support you with poor math skills? good for you
 
It is a sad state of affairs from the prospective of Leafs fan that Leafs star players all put money and personal wealth ahead of winning and the team.

Nate MacKinnon wins the Stanley Cup producing in 20 games (13-11-24 points) and then begrudgingly just to make the NHLPA happy raises the NHL salary by $100k more than McDavid who he knows is the best player in the game and signs for 8 years @ $12.6 mil AAV.

While Matthews has no such playoff contribution, he could also be a team player and take 8 years @$12.7 mil AAV to raise the NHLPA bar and then grow into his contract in time.
 
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It is a sad state of affairs from the prospective of Leafs fan that Leafs star players all put money and personal wealth ahead of winning and the team.

Nate MacKinnon wins the Stanley Cup producing in 20 games (13-11-24 points) and then begrudgingly just to make the NHLPA happy raises the NHL salary by $100k more than McDavid who he knows is the best player in the game and signs for 8 years @ $12.6 mil AAV.

While Matthews has no such playoff contribution, he could also be a team player and take 8 years @$12.7 mil AAV to raise the NHLPA bar and then grow into his contract in time.

You people can’t have it both ways. Matthews is greedy and fixated on being the highest paid player because he is expected to sign the highest AAV in the league (of which we currently have no hard numbers), but MacKinnon signs the current highest last summer and we get commentary like “he begrudgingly did it for the NHLPA”. Give me a break
 
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You people can’t have it both ways. Matthews is greedy and fixated on being the highest paid player because he is expected to sign the highest AAV in the league (of which we currently have no hard numbers), but MacKinnon signs the current highest last summer and we get commentary like “he begrudgingly did it for the NHLPA”. Give me a break
No, @Mess is correct. MacKinnon is one of the top-3 centers on the planet, just won a Cup, and could easily have demanded 14 mil a year x 4. Were the Avs going to say, "No, you just helped win us a Cup, are our number one center, but we're not going to pay you that?" Of course not. Instead, he signed for 100k over McDavid and committed to 8 years to presumably finish his career as an Av. This was his way of "moving the contracts forward" for the rest of the players (by 100k) while also giving his team a nice discount and committing to them long-term with a team-friendly deal.

The fact that this will likely be the 2nd massive, short-term deal that Matthews has signed with the Leafs is a complete disgrace. And that it will likely be for 13.5 (compared to McDavid's 12.5 or MacKinnon's 12.6) is also a complete disgrace.
 
You people can’t have it both ways. Matthews is greedy and fixated on being the highest paid player because he is expected to sign the highest AAV in the league (of which we currently have no hard numbers), but MacKinnon signs the current highest last summer and we get commentary like “he begrudgingly did it for the NHLPA”. Give me a break
We would all be ok with Mac's cap percentage x 8.
 
You people can’t have it both ways. Matthews is greedy and fixated on being the highest paid player because he is expected to sign the highest AAV in the league (of which we currently have no hard numbers), but MacKinnon signs the current highest last summer and we get commentary like “he begrudgingly did it for the NHLPA”. Give me a break

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One of us will be eating crow, and I don't believe it will be me, as I'm expecting as is being reported Matthews will be signing a 3-5 years in term deal and become the highest paid player in the game likely starting with AAV at $13 mil or or higher,

Everyone in Leafs Nation will be thowing a party if Matthews signs a MacKinnon like deal for 8 years at $12.7 mil and bumps the NHLPA bar a little higher.
 
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With or without Matthews seats are being filled in Toronto and on the road.
Toronto doesn't need him and he really doesn’t need Toronto. The Leafs are the only team that can sign him now so he’d be crazy not use that as leverage.
Crazy not to....that tells you right there he should be gone. He cares little for team.
Why are the big 3 all so selfish. Maybe Babcock was right.
 
We would all be ok with Mac's cap percentage x 8.
agreed, I’d be fine giving him a slight bump. 13.5x8 is still fine with me

He loses me with the 3-5 years crap. Also it’s comical that people say it’s actually in favour of the team, it’s gotta be the first time someone has said that short term deals are good for the team. He’s gonna make 13 on a mid 80 to low 90 salary cap and then 15+ on a mid 90 to low 100 cap, so where do we benefit. And if his injuries are so concerning that short term deals are better, than it would be better to deal him because apparently the injuries only affect the term, not the AAV
 
Crazy not to....that tells you right there he should be gone. He cares little for team.
Why are the big 3 all so selfish. Maybe Babcock was right.
Look at the management, the coaching, the deals they’ve made this summer, the media, the hassle of living in the city… wouldn’t you ask for more?
 
I beg to differ. His body language screams indifference which spells doom in any sport. Now maybe if he was paid - that may spark his interest. I have seen enough of his body of work to confidently state I dont ever think we'll win with him as our biggest cap hit player period. Many may differ....but just look at the results, they dont lie. This guy needs to be traded to the team of his choice & with his ok (because we bumbled the opportunity prior to July 1st) or severely overpay him to stay & continue to accept failure. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. I would do the same to Nylander & MM....we need a different core. The REAL problem here is Shanny & or the board and what they are telling him....we arent privy to what they care about. Surely ticket sales is #1 ahead of a winner & AM fills our overpriced seats. Such a shame.
I agree. The other problem is Chicago getting either our first pick next year (top 10 protected), or our unprotected one in ‘26. So if we were to trade them, we would surely be giving up a fairly high pick, unfortunately. But it does indeed piss me off that it appears these prima donnas have no intent of leaving anything on the table.
 
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It is a sad state of affairs from the prospective of Leafs fan that Leafs star players all put money and personal wealth ahead of winning and the team.

Nate MacKinnon wins the Stanley Cup producing in 20 games (13-11-24 points) and then begrudgingly just to make the NHLPA happy raises the NHL salary by $100k more than McDavid who he knows is the best player in the game and signs for 8 years @ $12.6 mil AAV.

While Matthews has no such playoff contribution, he could also be a team player and take 8 years @$12.7 mil AAV to raise the NHLPA bar and then grow into his contract in time.
Yup, I just can’t understand how some posters on here think they’re getting paid what they deserve. To me, they’re all about themselves and the money, def not the team! And Shanahan is just as much to blame. I believe he is the one who has sheltered and pampered them.
 
You people can’t have it both ways. Matthews is greedy and fixated on being the highest paid player because he is expected to sign the highest AAV in the league (of which we currently have no hard numbers), but MacKinnon signs the current highest last summer and we get commentary like “he begrudgingly did it for the NHLPA”. Give me a break
What planet are you on? MacKinnon could have demanded, and gotten, much more. Can you imagine a player, who will have made a boatload of money over his career, actually leaving some money on the table in order to help his team out? SMH!!!
 
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Barring an absurd AAV, I'd be damn happy with most any number for Matthews as long as it was an 8 year deal. Can't stress enough how much my outlook (and I assume many others') on him would change if he committed to being here for a long time, like every other superstar in this sport does. It's his right to try and maximize his earnings, but it's our right to resent him for it.
 
He's one of the very best players in the best hockey league in the world. His current contract reflected that and nothing more. His next will likely do the same.
Yup, one of the best in the regular season, can’t argue that. The playoffs, that’s another story.
 
Mack - Center - Career high 41 goals - Calder, Lady Byng - 15.27% of cap.
Tkachuk - Winger- - career high 42 goals, paced for 32 goals per season three seasons prior to 42 goals - no individual trophies - 11.52% of cap, only made past first round once.
Pastrank - Winger - - 48 goal career high - 13.64% of cap, 1 Rocket

Matthews -Center - 60 goal career high - 2 Rockets, MVP, Lindsay, Calder

I'm not so sure MacKinnon at 15.27% of the cap has really signed a more reasonable contract. None of the forwards have the awards, or goals. Matthews is currently lower at 14.64%.

If Matthews duplicates MacKinnon, it will be $12.75 mil.... which would be a number you'd think most would be satisfied with here, or something close. A number below $13 mil would be a decent contract for us I'd think.
You forgot to include Stanley Cup winner for MacKinnon. Add onto that the fact he could have gotten more than 12.6.
 
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His body language screams indifference which spells doom in any sport.
This is something I have noticed since his sophomore year. He has a ho-hum approach to losing and lacks any type of intensity or anger when he, or his teammates, are being pushed around. Other stars like MacKinnon, Crosby, even Stamkos, don't show this type of indifference. And, yes, this is a problem. And there could be a correlation between said body language and his inability to level up in the playoffs when the games get more intense and nasty.
 
This is something I have noticed since his sophomore year. He has a ho-hum approach to losing and lacks any type of intensity or anger when he, or his teammates, are being pushed around. Other stars like MacKinnon, Crosby, even Stamkos, don't show this type of indifference. And, yes, this is a problem. And there could be a correlation between said body language and his inability to level up in the playoffs when the games get more intense and nasty.
Yeah I can't stand the way the guy sulks. If he doesn't get to play his way it's time to mope around the ice then look sad on the bench after his shift. It's absolutely related to his playoff performances. He's just a low-key guy. Not a leader. A touch of that Getzlaf edge would do wonders for him and our team - he's got the physical tools to be that presence, but no fire. Oh well.
 
Yeah I edited it would be just below.
But still, 8 years post elc:
McDavid: 100m
Matthews if he signs the rumoured 13.5m (just do 3 years to match the 8 years): 98.7m total.
So Matthews over 8 years would make a whopping 160k less each year than McDavid.
So McDavid signed under a lower cap as a lesser player than he is now, took one of the biggest discounts in cap era history, and hasn't re-signed in that time, and he still makes more over that time than Matthews. If McDavid signed at the same time as Matthews, without the discount, he would make 13.7m more than Matthews over that time.
Sometimes your neighbour is going to have a slightly bigger house. That shouldn't prevent you from enjoying the great house you have.
 
Look at the management, the coaching, the deals they’ve made this summer, the media, the hassle of living in the city… wouldn’t you ask for more?
I hope I would be a better team player. The TML didn't set up the salary cap. Bettman did to help out US teams and it worked. No Canadian teams have won for 30 years. Asking more with a cap hurts the ability to win. Put 100m$ in my bank or 110m$ is not going to affect my life as much as a cup on the shelf.
 
I hope I would be a better team player. The TML didn't set up the salary cap. Bettman did to help out US teams and it worked. No Canadian teams have won for 30 years. Asking more with a cap hurts the ability to win. Put 100m$ in my bank or 110m$ is not going to affect my life as much as a cup on the shelf.
Does he care enough about winning the Cup?
I think he‘d like to win, but I honestly don’t know if that’s why he plays hockey.

Once again, if I was in his shoes and I saw what management has done over the years, all things considered, if they want to sign him now to live and play in Toronto for the next 6+ yrs, I don’t really blame him for asking for a premium.
 
Does he care enough about winning the Cup?
I think he‘d like to win, but I honestly don’t know if that’s why he plays hockey.

Once again, if I was in his shoes and I saw what management has done over the years, all things considered, if they want to sign him now to live and play in Toronto for the next 6+ yrs, I don’t really blame him for asking for a premium.
You don't blame him so to punish TML management for past failures, I get that, but to do that he punishes, his team mates today, and the fans.
We should never sign him fir more than 3 years and alwsys have ability to trade him in yr 3.
I a the opposite to you, f... him, this is about me watch The Leafs win a cup again after 56 yrs.
I do not care to punish myself because of Ballard, Gregory, McNamara, Brophy, Babcock, Quinn or MLSE,
AM, WN, MM have made it more difficult to reach the top by taking advantage of little Dubas with past agreements. The had no trade clauses and their agents hands on his genitals.
Time for a change again.
 
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