Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

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He's not but he is great pure goalscorer. Don't compare him to mackinnon,barkov and mcdavid though.
He's good defensively, and Barkov shouldn't be grouped with the 2 guys you mentioned regardless of how well-rounded he is. Matthews has almost as many goals as Barkov has points this year. But, I guess you found another Fin to fanboy since Laine hasn't come close to living up to the expectations you set for him.
 

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Pretty sure Matthews is top 5 in the league for shots blocked by a forward after leading the league last year. McDavid is not close.
Just ahead of Frank Vatrano who is on every coaches defensive radar.

To be fair the leader in that category was bought out for termination.
 

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No, you missed the point. What I'm saying is that's a bad stat to judge forwards worth defensively. Look at the company and get back to me.

What stat do you use to judge a forwards defensive ability?

We can compare using that metric also.
 

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What stat do you use to judge a forwards defensive ability?

We can compare using that metric also.
Not blocked shots, unless you think Bonino is winning the Selke, with Matthews, Cookie, and Wennberg getting nominations.
 

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Not blocked shots, unless you think Bonino is winning the Selke, with Matthews, Cookie, and Wennberg getting nominations.

So what's the stat? It doesn't seem you have one.

Blocked shots is one stat, it's not the only stat.
 

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So nowhere close to Matthews?

Exactly.
This is embarassing man - this is why no one likes Leaf fans.

McDavid is the GOAT - in no way is Matthews in his tier, and this is a Leaf fan telling you this.

Regardless - Matthews is in the convo for #2 after McDavid and non-leaf fans can finally start to realize it
 

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So what's the stat? It doesn't seem you have one.
I don't think it's a single stat. I hope that helps, but know you well enough to predict you coming back with an obtuse gotcha.

Glad you aren't voting for Bonino for Selke, for what that's worth.
 

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Maybe not the whole league but I think it’s safe to say he’s by far the best 200ft, defensive player among the best odds Hart trophy guys right now
McDavid is better and even if you disagree it is insane to say Matthews is “by far” the best

It’s fun that we’ve again reached the point where Matthews being the best goal scorer in the league isn’t enough for Leafs fans
 

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