I don't find it crazy as much as disappointing. The number of rocket wins is unmatched and 50 goals between 2005-2020 was pretty close to what 60 goals is in today's league so it's not that Ovi wasn't dominant. Just that for the greatest goal scorer ever his peak is underwhelming and that's why I have him as the greatest only begrudgingly. But then again it's widely accepted that his claim to the greatest is based on longevity instead of peak so it's not this huge revelation anyway.
Barkov is certainly no slouch offensively. He is much better at driving play up the ice and finding an open guy than Matthews is, and the advanced stats show he impacts overall goal differential more than Matthews does, which is the best barometer for the silly question you posed. So, yes he is, based on that stat. Can you provide evidence to show otherwise?
Wow, that literally has nothing to do with anything. Even Crosby fans aren't using head to head team results to justify him over OV. You can do better than that.
I am not in denial of how good he is defensively. Those two didn't even go head to head the whole series anyway. You are really grasping at straws to prove your point. It seems to fall apart when I think Matthews is good defensively, just not better than a proven Selke winner and far better two way player than Barkov. It is okay to have a reasonable take sometimes.
But you are just plain wrong, because there are very little relevant defensive stats that Matthews matches Barkov on, and Barkov just plain blows Matthews out of the water in the important defensive stats that people rely on for Selke voting, which is why he is the frontrunner. Maybe you should look up some of these defensive stats of Barkov's for yourself before claiming Matthews has matched him or laughably claim that he exceeded him.
Whoa you are using goal differential to showcase that Matthews' team is worse defensively than Barkov's, but throwing out the stats that show that Barkov is the main reason why that is the case?
I’d actually be curious to see some shot quality metrics between the two.
You dont think players forcing lower quality shots have an influence on save %?
It is a pretty minor influence compared to having a good goalie.
so what, way less high end talent in that time. still pretty crazy,
Then why do they have basically the same GA/60 and XGA/60 this year, while Mcdavid has a lower HDCA/60 and CA/60 ? He's not half as good really?
Damn it's the Oilers carrying Mcdavid, in every other thread it's the other way!
