Auston Matthews 69 goals in 81 games, most goals scored since Lemieux in 1995-96

[Hobble]

Niiiiice.

 

[authentic]

Matthews is not as durable as Ovechkin, on a season by season basis. He almost got 70 now, but most likely won't get that same amount next season. Look at his track record season by season...

So what (assuming what you're saying is true to begin with, he could very well get over 60 again next season), his best season is comparable to Ovechkin's best and his 2nd and 3rd best are better than Ovechkin's 2nd and 3rd best.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Elite. I hate it but I cannot fight it. First round exit tho

 

[Filthy Dangles]

(Likely to hit) 70 genos in the National in 2024...

Talk shit about him and the Laffs all you want but that's quite simply insane.

He's gonna have some hefty expectations in the yoffs, 'd like to see him carry it over and go off there.

 

[Video Nasty]

Matthews is not as durable as Ovechkin, on a season by season basis. He almost got 70 now, but most likely won't get that same amount next season. Look at his track record season by season...

Fun fact. Matthews has suited up for 405 out of the last 427 Leafs games (94.9% or nearly 78 games out of 82), since returning from a shoulder injury in late 2018.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

If he scores 70 Coyotes will stay in Arizona

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

Impressive stuff, but he's once again racking up the goals when the games don't matter.

 

[Divine]

Impressive stuff, but he's once again racking up the goals when the games don't matter.

When did the games stop mattering?

He's been close to/over a 70 goal pace the entire season. Of course if he were to score 70 the 70th goal was going to come near the end of the season unless you were expecting 80?

 

[MCR74]

Impressive stuff, but he's once again racking up the goals when the games don't matter.

LMAO! Same can be said for the Sens now winning games when they don't matter.

 

[Seras]

So many times I've heard that X player won't win a cup this year or X team can't do it only to see both get it done.

 

[1specter]

LMAO! Same can be said for the Sens now winning games when they don't matter.

No self awareness at all

 

[Squiffy]

1) The discussion is the talk that the players are comparable. I have posted examples of posters asking if the two players are comparable. The answer was yes, they are comparable. In all aspects, regardless of Matthews incredible, historic season, the two players are not comparable.

2) Matthews is having a season for the ages. And yes, he has scored the most goals in one season since 1995-96. He should absolutely be lauded for it, as I have done myself in multiple posts. Again, however, there is absolutely nothing comparable about Lemieux and Matthews apart from the fact that Matthews has now scored more goals (in more games played) than Lemieux’s fourth most productive goal scoring year.

I will ignore the post that says “Greatest goal scorer in history AINEC” because I believe that no one actually possibly believes that.

3) Matthews is an excellent defensive forward, and will deservedly get some Selke votes. He will not, however, finish third in Selke voting, is certainly not better defensively than all the top scorers by a long shot, and, regardless of what anyone want to believe, Sam Reinhart is to be as much of a Selke consideration as Matthews is. Odds show maybe even moreso.

The fact that this was Reinhart’s season defensively was even mentioned brought open mocking from more than one Leaf fan, and a chorus of “people are comparing Reinhart to Matthews!?!?!” when that wasn’t the case. It was simply a legitimate observation the Reinhart has possibly had a better season defensively than Matthews has. The metrics, Reinhart being an integral part of all situations for the Panthers, particularly the PK, and the league wide consensus that he has had a stellar year defensively bear this out.

It could certainly have been an objective discussion. But it wasn’t.

Seems like we agree on most of it, no? All of it even?

This is an excellent post. Over the top rope posts of Leaf fans think AM is better than Mario, not as much.

 

[pekka55]

Sure is impressive stuff. He's one great goal scorer, now he needs to get his team to succeed in the playoffs. I'm a closeted Toronto fan, so I hope they'll go far.

 

[Squiffy]

Really was hoping he'd pop one late to get it over with. Not very hard to go two games without scoring, one goal to go. Nothing else left in the reg season for the Leafs.

One lousy assist would be cool for McD too. Can we get these things done?

 

[Martin Skoula]

Matthews is not as durable as Ovechkin, on a season by season basis. He almost got 70 now, but most likely won't get that same amount next season. Look at his track record season by season...

He’s probably not gonna put up a 32 goal 65 point season like Ovi did in his prime either.

 

[Antropovsky]

Impressive stuff, but he's once again racking up the goals when the games don't matter.

Just like all those other guys racking up 70 goals when the games don't matter.

 

[authentic]

Seems like we agree on most of it, no? All of it even?

This is an excellent post. Over the top rope posts of Leaf fans think AM is better than Mario, not as much.

No such posts existed, it was a simple matter of recognizing that this season Matthews is currently having is comparable to any of Lemieux’s in goal scoring only. People bring up adjusted stats constantly when comparing Ovechkin’s 65 to Matthews this season, but yet you can’t do the same with Mario, especially when he actually played even more on the powerplay than Ovechkin has.

 

[MCR74]

Just like all those other guys racking up 70 goals when the games don't matter.

He's a Sens fan. His team only shows up when games don't matter.

 

[SherVaughn30]

He’s probably not gonna put up a 32 goal 65 point season like Ovi did in his prime either.

If the Leafs were to actually wise up and bring in a coach for playoff hockey, then Matthews could have one of those strange type goal scoring drop off season that OV had! Matthews needs to stop being compared to OV, as he's 484 goals behind. Frankly, there is too much talk about how many goals Matthews scores, when he should be held accountable as part of the reason the Leafs get knocked out so much in the 1st round! Matthews playoff performances are never talked about, because he doesn't show up that good in the playoffs!

 

[Subbanned]

Man haters still grasping for straws to avoid giving Matthews credit...sad

What an absolute legend

If he wasn't a Leaf this thread would have a very different tone

 

[Martin Skoula]

If the Leafs were to actually wise up and bring in a coach for playoff hockey, then Matthews could have one of those strange type goal scoring drop off season that OV had! Matthews needs to stop being compared to OV, as he's 484 goals behind. Frankly, there is too much talk about how many goals Matthews scores, when he should be held accountable as part of the reason the Leafs get knocked out so much in the 1st round! Matthews playoff performances are never talked about, because he doesn't show up that good in the playoffs!

0 of these words have anything to do with durability or consistency lol, cope more

 

[TDotMassive]

Ovechkin goals are worth 1.0 goals, because the history of the league revolves around the worst era in NHL hockey history.

Everyone else’s goals have to be scored at 0.99 Ovechkin goals or less (sometimes much less), because HFboards believes in equity of talent.

Instead of proclaiming “goals are up!” We should be saying they are still way down. They just hit rock bottom when Ovechkin played. Didn’t seem to stop him from scoring 65, though … weird how that works, I guess?

The league still has a ways to go to reach peak awesome NHL standards, but it’s much better than it was in the dark ages of 2003

I suspect a lot of hfboards posters were born between 1993 and 2003-ish and their only frame of reference is the terrible Crosby and Ovechkin era

This shit is blowing their minds like Gretzky blew ours and they’re scrambling to make sense of it all and they can’t

What they refuse to do is admit that Matthews is a better goal scorer than Ovechkin was through the same amount of games played to this point of their careers. Although that is the blatant and objective truth. They deny reality

The 7-8 seasons preceding Ovi's rookie year were the lowest scoring since the late 50's. By the time Ovi arrived, scoring was already up considerably.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

Impressive stuff *stuffs a handful of cheetohs into my fat f***ing gullet*, but he's once again racking up the goals when the games don't matter. *wipes fingers on mustard-stained shirt*

 

[CanadienShark]

Not sure if I want him to score 70, since 69 is... Nice.

 

[TDotMassive]

Matthews is not as durable as Ovechkin, on a season by season basis. He almost got 70 now, but most likely won't get that same amount next season. Look at his track record season by season...

LOL... Matthews has scored 40+ goals in 6/8 seasons so far, including 41 in 52 during Covid season, when he likely would have broken 60 again, which would have made 3 60+ goal seasons out of 8.