LEAFS GDT Atlantic Division - Race to the 1st

Jesus, get over it already.
LOL. Get over what..?? This is literally our playoff history in this era, my guy.
I'm glad you're comfy holding the Mr Optimist reins - I'm just reminded of how we've done in literally every test so far.
People are quick to call Ottawa a preferred opponent is all - and we've had plenty of those.

Hope it aint so, but uhhh - this would be the proverbial cherry on top.
 
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LOL. Get over what..?? This is literally our playoff history in this era, my guy.
I'm glad you're comfy holding the Mr Optimist reins - I'm just reminded of how we've done in literally every test so far.
People are quick to call Ottawa a favored opponent is all - and we've had plenty of those.

Hope it aint so, but uhhh - this would be the proverbial cherry on top.
I think they should be favoured against Ott.

But they were favoured heavily against Mon.

The Fla series in which they were favoured seemed like a gross understanding of how good Florida actually was.
 
LOL. Get over what..?? This is literally our playoff history in this era, my guy.
I'm glad you're comfy holding the Mr Optimist reins - I'm just reminded of how we've done in literally every test so far.
People are quick to call Ottawa a favored opponent is all - and we've had plenty of those.

Hope it aint so, but uhhh - this would be the proverbial cherry on top.
The idea that in sports, where winners are generally determined through a series of millions of small random events in each game, the past dictates the future is a fallacy. What happened last year, let alone 5 years ago, is not determinative of what happens today or tomorrow. I'll say again, this version of the Leafs will be in the conference final this season. Let's see who they play at that point, but if it's Carolina I love the Leafs' odds in that series.
 
Ah, yes, the infamous reverse jinx. Interesting, because I thought I was the jinx? I hope my powers have not been neutered.
Let us bow our heads and pray together.

I think it's working though, Boston is in last, we are in first. Together we are unstoppable.
 
So in the Leaf kaleidoscope of pain, we have achieved it all, my friends:

It was 4-1.
Can't beat Columbus in a play in?
Lose to MTL and gave 'em wings
And the myriad of heartbreaking Game 7's, which has to be the longest stretch in League history.

What's the one thing we haven't done yet?

Oh, that's right - lose to our Ontario rivals in the bitterest way possible. A team we've forgotten we don't like, just because they've been so irrelevant for sooo long.

Race to the 1st, is great and all - but if this team wants to go full Leafy - there isn't a better, more excruciating way to do it.

Apologies. PTSD here.
If we do lose to Ottawa, with the improved goaltending we have now compared to the past, with the improved 200 ft games of our star players, with an improved defence with Tanev Carlo and OEL, with beasts like McMann and Knies in the top 6, and with a grittier north south approach to games........well then this franchise is truly cursed.
 
If we do lose to Ottawa, with the improved goaltending we have now compared to the past, with the improved 200 ft games of our star players, with an improved defence with Tanev Carlo and OEL, with beasts like McMann and Knies in the top 6, and with a grittier north south approach to games........well then this franchise is truly cursed.
Preeeeee-cisely.
I think they should be favoured against Ott.

But they were favoured heavily against Mon.
Preeeeee-cisely.

I'll say again, this version of the Leafs will be in the conference final this season. Let's see who they play at that point, but if it's Carolina I love the Leafs' odds in that series.
I will be cheering as hard or heavier than you. My heart is with you here, even my brain is, on the fallacy of 'past indicates future'. But on its face, I'm just particularly mindful that you still have to play and actually WIN the games. This core (the only constant) gotta show me, you and all of us it can.
 
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The idea that in sports, where winners are generally determined through a series of millions of small random events in each game, the past dictates the future is a fallacy. What happened last year, let alone 5 years ago, is not determinative of what happens today or tomorrow. I'll say again, this version of the Leafs will be in the conference final this season. Let's see who they play at that point, but if it's Carolina I love the Leafs' odds in that series.
You could say this about life in general really.
 
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Yep!

To be totally honest, I've noticed a drop in the general negativity around here. I think it's getting harder for even the Debbie Downers to find something to complain about.

Leafs are 1st in the division. Bruins are last! Tavares is scoring like he's 22 years old. Looks like we'll get a battle of Ontario in round 1. Carlo has steadied Rielly. We have a fantastic goalie tandem.

Every Leafs fan should have a grin on their face right now! It's all good vibes heading into the playoffs, baby!
The Brad Treliving effect. He brings people together. Great GM.
 
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Underdog? The leafs will be the favourite in the second round because of home ice.
HF Voted Florida/Tampa as better teams and cup favorites ahead of us. So according to the fans we are technically the underdogs in the event that we make the 2nd round (assuming we finish 1st in the division)
 
HF Voted Florida/Tampa as better teams and cup favorites ahead of us. So according to the fans we are technically the underdogs in the event that we make the 2nd round (assuming we finish 1st in the division)
You'll forgive me if I don't take the majority on this board as gospel. Not that it means anything, beacuse it doesn't, but the Leafs will be the betting favourite until at least the Cup final, and possibly in that round as well depending on the opponent.
 
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You'll forgive me if I don't take the majority on this board as gospel. Not that it means anything, beacuse it doesn't, but the Leafs will be the betting favourite until at least the Cup final, and possibly in that round as well depending on the opponent.
The Leafs are not betting favourites now to make the final. Not sure why that would change
 
The Leafs are not betting favourites now to make the final. Not sure why that would change
Obviously it will change as the playoffs progress. Betting lines follow trends, so as a team trends up by winning, so too will it's betting line.
 
You think they can get Florida again

Hope you are right but that's a bold prediction.

I have them beating Carolina

It doesn't matter how you slice it... Win over Florida, Lose to Carolina... Lose to Florida, win over Carolina... it still would mean that Tampa would need to run the table, if the wins/losses for us played out that way.
 
Obviously it will change as the playoffs progress. Betting lines follow trends, so as a team trends up by winning, so too will it's betting line.
Yes, I understand how betting lines work, but since the teams the Leafs will face are already ahead of them as favourites, when they too win nothing will change
 
You'll forgive me if I don't take the majority on this board as gospel. Not that it means anything, beacuse it doesn't, but the Leafs will be the betting favourite until at least the Cup final, and possibly in that round as well depending on the opponent.
Betting favourites in our case doesn't mean much, just means leaf fans are betting with their hearts.
 
Yes, I understand how betting lines work, but since the teams the Leafs will face are already ahead of them as favourites, when they too win nothing will change
A few of them will be eliminated before they can face the Leafs. The only Eastern conference team where the betting line will be close will be Leafs/Florida, but the Leafs likely would be a small favourite in that series because of home ice.
 
The idea that in sports, where winners are generally determined through a series of millions of small random events in each game, the past dictates the future is a fallacy. What happened last year, let alone 5 years ago, is not determinative of what happens today or tomorrow. I'll say again, this version of the Leafs will be in the conference final this season. Let's see who they play at that point, but if it's Carolina I love the Leafs' odds in that series.
I’m sorry but this makes literally zero sense. If the game is completely random then every team would have the same likelihood of winning and we wouldn’t see the same teams repeat each year.

What are the chances that the leafs lose in the first round this many times in a row, with one victory? Do the math and show the likelihood because if you see that number and believe that’s random chance then I don’t know what to tell you.
 
I’m sorry but this makes literally zero sense. If the game is completely random then every team would have the same likelihood of winning and we wouldn’t see the same teams repeat each year.

What are the chances that the leafs lose in the first round this many times in a row, with one victory? Do the math and show the likelihood because if you see that number and believe that’s random chance then I don’t know what to tell you.
It's just textbook loser speak is all it is.

8 first round losses out of 9 playoff appearances goes far beyond luck or chance. You don't need to be a statistician to see it.
 
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I’m sorry but this makes literally zero sense. If the game is completely random then every team would have the same likelihood of winning and we wouldn’t see the same teams repeat each year.

What are the chances that the leafs lose in the first round this many times in a row, with one victory? Do the math and show the likelihood because if you see that number and believe that’s random chance then I don’t know what to tell you.
Yes, I would tell you that each of those series' was its own isolated event whose outcome was not based on prior years' outcomes. Those Leafs teams lost those series because in most cases the opponent was either better coached, had better goaltending or, in some of those early years, better players in those specific circumstances. This current Leafs team is different from those prior teams, as much as people want to say this is all about only 4 players. It isn't. It is about having a better overall team, from coaching down to goaltending.
 
A few of them will be eliminated before they can face the Leafs. The only Eastern conference team where the betting line will be close will be Leafs/Florida, but the Leafs likely would be a small favourite in that series because of home ice.
Except right now, TB, Fla, Car and Was are all favoured ahead of the Leafs. They will most certainly not all be eliminated before the Leafs can play them.
 

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