Forsberg is actually a very good back up. He was poor last year but his prior history in Ottawa is very strong. He had 33.6 goals saved above expected in 82 games (0.45 GSAA/60) for Ottawa from 2021 to 2023. Last year he had -5.9 GSAA in 30 games (-0.23 GSAA/60). If they can get something in the middle of 0.45 and -0.23 GSAA/60 that will be a position of strength for them.
It is another "if" on the Ottawa ledger. I really don't want to come across as a Sens hater, though I am not a fan. I have them as a very improved team. I don't see a jump of 25 points in the standings, even just based on how tough the schedule and competition is. That's 12 or 13 more wins.
I’m not so sure it’s emotions as much as it’s historical evidence the last 7-8 years that this core can’t get it done and you cannot build a cup contender when 4 core forwards consume over 50% of the cap.
As far as the first response…….saying we would have won if there wasn’t better teams in our division is crazy.
I think Carolina will drop to third place in the Metro behind the Rangers and Devils.
Is this to make the playoffs?! If so it can't hurt to throw a bill on MTL. I wont miss it if they dont and woohoo if they do.
I wonder id you can just do a bet against the Leafs. Then either way I'd win.
This is so strange to me
I find this gives me value for my entertainment dollar. I prefer watching the team fight hard battles to being mad they aren't skating over some patsy team.
Neither of those statements are true. Just because a core doesn't win through the first 8 years of their careers, it doesn't mean they can't win. They've proven an ability to play at a high level, regular season and playoffs. Over that time, we had to maneuver through an unexpected allocation, but we were still able to build contenders through strong GMing, and that percentage will naturally drop as we move forward. The suggestions being thrown around are all emotion. Attempting to purge positive things because they existed on past teams that lost is emotion. It's not about making us better. It's about making us different, no matter the cost.
When you have teams in your division putting up some of the best seasons in cap era history, it is harder to be 1st in that division, even if you are also putting up top tier seasons. That's just a simple fact. You seem to be trying to make this about playoffs, which it was never about, but for the record, most teams win the cup without beating the best.
Apparently then our top tier seasons are simply not as good as the other teams in our divisions top tier seasons.
Our top tier seasons just happened in the same seasons that another team in our division had a top tier season. That doesn't make our seasons any less impressive.
Every team's game plan is to build the best team they can and keep throwing it at the wall, hoping it will stick. Our past outcomes - for which you are looking at the least possible information, and mistaking correlation with causation - do not indicate the conclusions you have come to, and making us worse does not improve those outcomes moving forward.
By the very nature that we have lost 7 of the last 8 first rounds does make it less impressive. Surely you must see this. There is no other way to interpret that record that isn’t simply making excuses
Apparently our top tier seasons were as good as any other team's, except that they weren't as good.
The history of playoff outcomes are unrelated to the regular season results we've gotten.
No, you're just not understanding. Another team having a great season doesn't change the quality of the season the Leafs had. If, for example, Boston had their 135 point season in 2018-2019, Tampa being 2nd in the division wouldn't make their 128 points any less impressive.
I understand perfectly, which is odd for your posts. We're top except that we aren't.
X marks the Scot?
