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ATD 2020 Draft Thread V

Dreamur, that had nothing to do with voting. You are the first to bring this fake news. It had to do with recruiting and drafting. There were no multiple votes. One voted, one didn't and one was a co-GM with a newbie and the newbie voted instead.
 
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I still don't think you guys have made an actual decision on the playoff format. Specifically on how many teams per division should make the cut. The tangible options seem to be: 2 teams or 4 teams. With 4 teams per divison, you get 5 rounds of playoffs (Division SF, Division F, Conference SF, Conference F, ATD Finals). With 2 teams per division, you get 4 rounds of playoffs (starting with the Division F).
 
ATD (to my knowledge) has never had a 32-team playoff- and I don't think now's the time to start.

I have two BIG reasons why I think top-2 from each Division is the way-to-go:

1) 16 teams is [IMO] the default assumption. Not unreasonable to think that the default assumption influenced the way people drafted. If all teams except 8 make the playoffs, how do the relatively high selections of the Tony Espositos, Stan Mikitas and Marcel Dionnes of the world look NOW?

2) There are some exciting up-and-coming projects in the wings. OPPF for one. Auction draft for another. If we waste some extra time arguing over whether some chanceless team has a chance of knocking out the Division-winner in Round One, then that delays the start of some of our more potentially fresh and groundbreaking initiatives.
 
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ChiTownPhilly said:
ATD (to my knowledge) has never had a 32-team playoff- and I don't think now's the time to start.

I have two BIG reasons why I think top-2 from each Division is the way-to-go:

1) 16 teams is [IMO] the default assumption. Not unreasonable to think that the default assumption influenced the way people drafted. If all teams except 8 make the playoffs, how do the relatively high selections of the Tony Espositos, Stan Mikitas and Marcel Dionnes of the world look NOW?

2) There are some exciting up-and-coming projects in the wings. OPPF for one. Auction draft for another. If we waste some extra time arguing over whether some chanceless team has a chance of knocking out the Division-winner in Round One, then that delays the start of some of our more potentially fresh and groundbreaking initiatives.
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There was so little discussion in the assassination threads that I’m not sure we even know who the good teams are yet.
 
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4 teams per division.
One week per round.

We will be done by the third or fourth week of June.
 
An unorthodox idea-

We punt the decision until after the voting is released. If a majority of the divisions have a clear split between teams 2 and 3, the top 2 teams make it. If there isn't the top 4 make it.
 
Gawd... no.

Lobbying for 3rds, defending 1sts, 2nds... chaos.

It is PATHETIC enough we haven't decided this yet.

I thought a 4-team per division was decided predraft. Let's NOT make this a political strategic football. Please.

Give Theokritos 100% responsibility. He has NO skin in the game. It is fair. Let's roll with that.
 
I've long argued the top 2 teams of each division should be the only ones moving to an elimination round playoff.

Based on every single ATD, and there are many to pull data from, lower seeded teams almost never win a match up vs a team that voters already billed the best in a/the division.

If there was history to show us that upsets can happen, I'd argue for 4 teams per division. But the reality is nobody seeded 4th in a 5 team division is going to beat whoever is seeded @ 1. Just doesn't happen. Voters are, essentially already deciding who the contenders are w/ regular season voting.

Feel free to chime in but as far as I see it, we roll with 2 or 4 teams per division making the playoffs.
 
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Maybe I misunderstood, but I was under the impression for most of the draft that the top 2 teams in each division would make the playoffs. Top 16 total. Maybe I just assumed for some reason? I know we never officially agreed, at least to my knowledge.

I’m sure there can be the odd upset obviously, but the way I look at it is most of the voters already have their minds made up on which teams they like after sending in their regular season votes. Does ANYONE really expect a 4th seed to upset a 1st seed in a division where the regular season votes were done a week earlier? I could be way off base here, but to me it’s just delaying the inevitable. That series is almost pre-determined at that point.

I’m honestly good either way, but 32/40 teams making the playoffs when maybe half of those have an actual chance to win this thing just seems a tad bit high to me.

But if everyone else wants 4 from each division (and my co-GM does) I won’t complain about it. It would provide for more discussions hopefully and MAYBE an upset or two.

Top 3 would be a nice compromise, but obviously a 24 team playoff doesn’t make sense lol.
 
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I vote for the more inclusive option.

To have worked so hard and finished 3rd and to be surprised at that standing, to be able to argue one's case... it's priceless.

We have NEVER cut off divisions at the top-2 regular season voting tallies. Never.

To do so last minute, now, after one of the biggest drafts ever would be... offputting...
 
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I vote for the more inclusive option.

To have worked so hard and finished 3rd and to be surprised at that standing, to be able to argue one's case... it's priceless.

We have NEVER cut off divisions at the top-2 regular season voting tallies. Never.

To do so last minute, now, after one of the biggest drafts ever would be... offputting...
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I can definitely understand going 4 teams’s per division if that’s what the majority assumed this entire time. No complaints from me if we go that way. And if the extra team’s provide more active playoff discussions, then that’s great.
 
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3 teams with a first round bye would be interesting I think, get to know two teams, pick then winner then throw a new one into the mix. I feel like that could lead to more potential upsets.

My vote on the matter at hand would be 2 though.
 
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3 teams with a first round bye would be interesting I think, get to know two teams, pick then winner then throw a new one into the mix. I feel like that could lead to more potential upsets.
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It wouldn't make the process shorter though and if there is any argument against 4 teams per division, it's that the playoffs tend to wear on and on. With 3 teams per division, you have 1 team with a bye but the same number of playoff rounds as with 4 teams.
 
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ChiTownPhilly said:
ATD (to my knowledge) has never had a 32-team playoff- and I don't think now's the time to start.

I have two BIG reasons why I think top-2 from each Division is the way-to-go:

1) 16 teams is [IMO] the default assumption. Not unreasonable to think that the default assumption influenced the way people drafted. If all teams except 8 make the playoffs, how do the relatively high selections of the Tony Espositos, Stan Mikitas and Marcel Dionnes of the world look NOW?

2) There are some exciting up-and-coming projects in the wings. OPPF for one. Auction draft for another. If we waste some extra time arguing over whether some chanceless team has a chance of knocking out the Division-winner in Round One, then that delays the start of some of our more potentially fresh and groundbreaking initiatives.
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The 40 team ATD 2011 had a 40 team playoff.
 
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I don't believe it is right to suddenly put DEATH to a vote.

Pre-draft, okay. Now? Err on the side of accommodation.
 
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