ATD 2020 Draft Thread IV

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Johnny Engine

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Also, can we talk about clocks expiring at night for a second?
The last three nights in a row, my pick came up at 3 in the morning or later in Newfoundland, and each time I had been a reasonable number of picks away at the point I went to bed. What makes this different than the usual griping about time zones is the number of skipped picks hanging around. Half of the picks that went by while I was asleep were auto-skips, and making a list is problematic because there at any point there are always a dozen picks or more outstanding, and the point of leaving a list is to have one or two reasonably well-researched backup choices for the guy you want, and Papershoes could show up and take every single one of these guys at once. This will get more pronounced the longer Voight, Papershoes and Macho Man stay away.
Anyway, I've only had one hour deducted so far, so assuming my picks come up at a reasonable time it would be too much of a crunch for me going forward. But we see the problem here, right?
 

Dreakmur

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Also, can we talk about clocks expiring at night for a second?
The last three nights in a row, my pick came up at 3 in the morning or later in Newfoundland, and each time I had been a reasonable number of picks away at the point I went to bed. What makes this different than the usual griping about time zones is the number of skipped picks hanging around. Half of the picks that went by while I was asleep were auto-skips, and making a list is problematic because there at any point there are always a dozen picks or more outstanding, and the point of leaving a list is to have one or two reasonably well-researched backup choices for the guy you want, and Papershoes could show up and take every single one of these guys at once. This will get more pronounced the longer Voight, Papershoes and Macho Man stay away.
Anyway, I've only had one hour deducted so far, so assuming my picks come up at a reasonable time it would be too much of a crunch for me going forward. But we see the problem here, right?

There is a 4 hour minimum clock, regardless of dedications.

The whole point of the clock reductions after certain rounds is that picks become less important and your choices become far less likely to be scooped.

There’s also no real solution for the problem. Unless we note every GM’s time zone and freeze their clock during whatever time they request. Can’t just do 12-8 am est, since that’s unfair to people in other times. Can’t just assume 12-8 in their time zone, since people have different schedule.

To me, this is a very minor problem with a very complex and difficult solution. Not worth the trouble IMO.
 

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The Golden Eagles select Viktor Tikhonov, the longtime coach of the Soviet team during its most dominant era, winning the 1981 Canada Cup, the 1984, 1988 and 1992 Olympics, eight world championships and over eighty percent of international competition against highest level competition like NHLers.

He is renowned for rolling four lines, keeping each line fresh, fast and able to handle extended shifts if need be late in games.

His teams were hard working and disciplined, and he was as unpopular as Scotty Bowman was during the last Habs dynasty.

Tikhonov encouraged creativity, allowing for innovation within the basic structure of puck control and responsible positioning.

Salt Lake has been built with him in mind.
 
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I as a Caps fan was not initially sold on Holtby. Yeah, he had a couple of great regular seasons but when he had his third great year, following that up with two good more years and a great playoffs. Then I said "Damn, okay. He is legit great."

I still think another of that franchise's goalies is better than him, but it is NOT clearly so. In fact, I sometimes claim that my feelings-based impression may be mistaken. Maaaaybeeee.
 

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I'm going to take Billy Burch.
As a 6'0 and 200 pound man born over 120 years ago, he's an absolutely massive hockey player - our best adjusted size guidelines would have him at a similar size to Lindros, Holik or Otto, but he's a Byng winner and has decent offensive numbers for a player down this far. His assist totals look like nothing, given the way points were given out at the time, but contemporary quotes call him a good playmaker, so perhaps more work is warranted there. Consolidation (and consequently the beginning of our VsX model) happens right in the middle of his career, so we don't have a single number to throw out there either (I calculated his best 7 seasons as around 66, with his best season at 95, but we all know that's garbage, move along).
He has a similar story to Stan Mikita's - a temperamental young player who had an epiphany and cleaned up his game to great effect, while maintaining or developing his defensive mastery.
 

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I am going to finish the top-6 with XXX

XXX's longterm defensive partner will play on the PK and play at ES with Seth Jones.

I believe @Voight is on auto-skip, so @ResilientBeast is on the clock.
 

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I'll draft two-way defenseman Vasili Pervukhin, D to anchor my bottom pairing.

Pervukhin was paired with Zinetula Bilyaletdinov on the second Soviet pairing in the 1980s. His time on the national team stretched from 1976 to 1989, basically when the USSR at its peak.
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Pervukhin was either a 1st Team All Star or top 5 (5th) in Soviet Player of the year voting on 3 separate occasions.:

1977: 5th in Soviet MVP voting, first among defensemen.
Vasiliev and Lutchenko were the Soviet league all stars, though

1979: First Team Soviet league All Star.
No MVP voting available beyond the winner.

1985: 5th in Soviet MVP voting, 2nd among defensemen behind Fetisov.
Fetisov and Kasatonov were the All Star defensemen.
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Here is every instance a defenseman ever finished top 5 in Soviet player of the Year voting:

Fetisov: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Vasiliev: 3rd, 5th, 5th
Pervukhin: 5th, 5th
Ragulin: 5th
Kasatonov: 5th

(keep in mind that the award didn't exist for much of Ragulin's career. We also don't have voting for 79 when Vasiliev and Pervukhin were the All Stars)

There definitely seems to be something of a "most valuable to his team" aspect in that award though.

The Red Machine said:
...coming along to supplement and then supplant Davidov and Vasiliev on the nationals were two other Dyanamo defensive stars - the crafty Vasily Pervukhin and the tough Zinetula Bilyaletdinov​

Kings of the Ice said (which is notorious for puffing up every player profiled):
Vasili Pervukhin stands out as the one player least likely to make a mistake on the ice. His flawless play was really quite remarkable, whether in closing a breach on the defensive line or winning a tussle with an opponent.

Pervukhin maneuvered himself as lightly as a butterfly to match the pace and rhythm of the attacker.

For Pervukhin there were no slumps, nor opponents that he couldn't handle.

The powerplay built around Pervukhin became a Soviet classic in those years.

...Pervuhkin's initiating pass made mounting an attack relatively smooth​
 
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