Asset Value - where does Lane Hutson rank in the NHL?

[bobholly39]

Similar to the Suzuki thread - hypothetical question - Habs decide to put Lane Hutson on the trading block this off season. In a vacuum, how high is his trade value vs others? Is it higher than if Oilers do the same for McDavid and his expiring contract? How about Marner? Hellebuyck? And every other player too...

In a vacuum - where does Lane Hutson rank as trade/asset value across the league?

Consider everything - including age, ability, potential, upcoming contract, etc. The one element you should ignore is how likely a team is to trade a player, and instead focus on what the player would be worth if they were traded (ie, it's not about Wash/Pitt refusing to trade Crosby/Ovi no matter what and thus deciding they're worth the most - it's about if they were traded, what offers would they get vs others).

He's having a fantastic rookie year - probably the current favorite for Calder, or close. He's only 20 years old, and already on pace for 69 points.

Is he a top 10 asset in the league? Top 20? 30? Worst?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Voted top 5 only because I couldn't vote for top 1

 

[Gliff]

I like my defensemen to play defense. He probably isn’t even top 10 defenesemen in terms of value to me.

Good player with a bright future, I'm not talking shit. I just prefer Hedman over Karlsson and this is a similar situation.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

Definitely top 20, possibly top 10.

I'm not sure though, even though he's super young he isn't more valuable than any of the top 6 or 7 players in the league regardless of contract.

Then you have so many other young guys who could be ranked over or right with him.

 

[Doom Bot]

Idk probably in the high teens

 

[Yepthatsme]

McDavid
Mackinnon
Kucherov
Draisaitl
Matthews
J. Hughes
Kaprizov
Eichel
Barkov
M. Tkachuk
Aho
Stutzle
Makar
Q. Hughes
Dahlin
Heiskanen
Bedard
Celebrini
Michkov

19 or so guys that he has absolutely no argument over, Montreal wins any 1 for 1 trade adding any of these players and there are no good argument that can be made otherwise. Then you get the list of players you could argue, but most would lean the other way:

Connor
Hellebuyck
Robertson
Nylander
Point
Vasilevskiy
Reinhart
Thomas
Bratt
Keller
Shesterkin (bold one)
Fox
Raymond
Seider
Carlsson
Thompson

Now up to 35 guys give or take. Probably missing some names that counteract some of the weaker options in that list. Not even going to go in to the coin flip players or prospects, or upcoming picks.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

McDavid
Mackinnon
Kucherov
Draisaitl
Matthews
J. Hughes
Kaprizov
Eichel
Barkov
M. Tkachuk
Aho
Stutzle
Makar
Q. Hughes
Dahlin
Heiskanen
Bedard
Celebrini
Michkov

19 or so guys that he has absolutely no argument over, Montreal wins any 1 for 1 trade adding any of these players and there are no good argument that can be made otherwise. Then you get the list of players you could argue, but most would lean the other way:

Connor
Hellebuyck
Robertson
Nylander
Point
Vasilevskiy
Reinhart
Thomas
Bratt
Keller
Shesterkin (bold one)
Fox
Raymond
Seider
Carlsson
Thompson

Now up to 35 guys give or take. Probably missing some names that counteract some of the weaker options in that list. Not even going to go in to the coin flip players or prospects, or upcoming picks.

He has “absolutely no argument” to be more valuable than Michkov and Celebrini despite out scoring both as a defenseman? Makes sense

 

[Yepthatsme]

He has “absolutely no argument” to be more valuable than Michkov and Celebrini despite out scoring both as a defenseman? Makes sense

Celebrini is the youngest player in the NHL, and Michkov has Art Ross potential. Hutson can be the favorite for the Calder and still not be the most valuable, and it’s not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Celebrini is the youngest player in the NHL, and Michkov has Art Ross potential. Hutson can be the favorite for the Calder and still not be the most valuable, and it’s not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

Hutson currently outplaying both and projects to be one of the leagues best defenseman

Saying there’s “absolutely no argument” is stupid and wrong

 

[Stephen]

I think he needs a big sophomore follow up to cement his status as a high ranked asset in the league. He’s high now but would you take him over anyone in the top 10, 15, 20 or whatever it is not knowing how repeatable it is?

 

[dukeofjive]

Kid is 4th in point for defensmen.

I have him at 20.

 

[The Great Weal]

I like my defensemen to play defense.

You could just say that you're stat watching and small offensive minded dmen should mean they stink defensively instead of lying.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Top 10 right now and if he replicates this season, he should be top 5 fairly easily

 

[GrandmaCookie]

I like my defensemen to play defense. He probably isn’t even top 10 defenesemen in terms of value to me.

Good player with a bright future, I'm not talking shit. I just prefer Hedman over Karlsson and this is a similar situation.

How many times have you seen him play?

 

[Gliff]

You could just say that you're stat watching and small offensive minded dmen should mean they stink defensively instead of lying.

He has the least defensive zone starts by % in the league for defensemen. He is the definition of being sheltered.

 

[EK392000]

Why can’t we just enjoy his impressive rookie season? There’s really no need to have this conversation, other than to validate Habs fans opinions that they have something special on their hands.

 

[The Great Weal]

He has the least defensive zone starts by % in the league for defensemen. He is the definition of being sheltered.

1) You're wrong, Brayden Pachal has the least defensive zone starts by % for dmen.
2) Norris Trophy winning superstar Quinn Hughes has a 7.7% of shifts started in the defensive zone compared to Hutson's 6.1%. Not to mention that Arber Xhekaj has a 7.9% when he's most definitely more sheltered than Hutson which just proves how your argument is nonsense.
3) The guy has averaged nearly 23 minutes a game since the start of the season and over 24 minutes in the past month of competitive hockey fighting for a playoff spot and is out holding onto leads against the reigning cup champs.

You're just flat out wrong on multiple counts.

 

[centipede2233]

McDavid
Mackinnon
Kucherov
Draisaitl
Matthews
J. Hughes
Kaprizov
Eichel
Barkov
M. Tkachuk
Aho
Stutzle
Makar
Q. Hughes
Dahlin
Heiskanen
Bedard
Celebrini
Michkov

19 or so guys that he has absolutely no argument over, Montreal wins any 1 for 1 trade adding any of these players and there are no good argument that can be made otherwise. Then you get the list of players you could argue, but most would lean the other way:

Connor
Hellebuyck
Robertson
Nylander
Point
Vasilevskiy
Reinhart
Thomas
Bratt
Keller
Shesterkin (bold one)
Fox
Raymond
Seider
Carlsson
Thompson

Now up to 35 guys give or take. Probably missing some names that counteract some of the weaker options in that list. Not even going to go in to the coin flip players or prospects, or upcoming picks.

No Werenski, Marchenko, or b.tkachuk?

 

[Gliff]

1) You're wrong, Brayden Pachal has the least defensive zone starts by % for dmen.
2) Norris Trophy winning superstar Quinn Hughes has a 7.7% of shifts started in the defensive zone compared to Hutson's 6.1%. Not to mention that Arber Xhekaj has a 7.9% when he's most definitely more sheltered than Hutson which just proves how your argument is nonsense.
3) The guy has averaged nearly 23 minutes a game since the start of the season and over 24 minutes in the past month of competitive hockey fighting for a playoff spot and is out holding onto leads against the reigning cup champs.

You're just flat out wrong on multiple counts.

You are right, my apologies. He has the 6th lowest in the NHL. 4th lowest at 5 on 5. And 2 MTL defensemen are in the top 10 in the NHL.
IDK how you are trying to say he isn't sheltered. You can make anecdotal statements with examples like this, but the stats say differently.

And I would include Quinn Hughes in the same category as Karlsson, so you're preaching to the choir. Obviously these are good players. I'm not saying differently. I would just prefer a guy that has the ability to drive offense and shut down McDavid and/or Tkachuk in the playoffs.

 

[Connor McConnor]

If this was defensive asset he'd be top 10 but overall? This is purely subjective because some people will still value "older" guys who are just plain better right now and for the next few years, and others will value the 21 year old on a rookie contract who has top 5 dman upside. Voted outside top 50 because I'm one of the former.

 

[Pavels Dog]

He should be in the HoF already. That he isn’t is a disgrace.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

He should be in the HoF already. That he isn’t is a disgrace.

Hutson > Seider and this isn’t even up for debate.

 

[Conbon]

Why do Habs fans do this

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

He has the least defensive zone starts by % in the league for defensemen. He is the definition of being sheltered.

And when he isn’t sheltered or gets targeted, gets completely caved in his own end. No one said he’s not special offensively or gifted as a PP QB but he’s abysmal defensively.

 

[Rob Brown]

Why do Habs fans do this

For real, why even put top 5 as an option lol.