Proposal: Askarov to EDM

[Figgy44]

The problem is the Ducks cupboard is far from barren. They have their future D all but set. They have their future 1C. They have two candidates for 2C long term. They have a couple high end wing prospects. They have likely another top 10 pick coming.

If what you offer is less talented than what's in place or on the way, essentially aren't they trading a future starting goalie for like a future 5/6D, or a future 3rd liner? Doesn't seem worth it, even if it's multiple guys of that ilk.

Who's the absolute best young forward or D that Edmonton could even offer, and where would they rank in Anaheim's U23 pecking order?

In not an oiler fan. But just because the ducks have players in those slots doesn't mean they can't in theory puck up extra players in those top slots and figure out who they like best. Having young top 4 doesn't mean another prospect is guaranteed as the 5th best. Development isn't always linear.

I agree the Oilers would have a hard time offering a specific piece to the ducks that would exceed their top prospects. But moves like Drysdale for Gauthier do happen. I've already said it's possible the ducks keep Dostal. I'm just saying if the Oilers suddenly said they'd offer something ridiculous like the equivalent of 3 firsts (expected to be late and in future years), the Ducks would at least pause. Even if the Ducks ultimately say no for some of the reasons you described, 3 firsts, all I'm literally saying is that the ducks likely listen to the end before hanging up.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn't think it was that ridiculous that the Oilers could do something that wouldn't be met with an immediate no.

 

[benfranklin]

Hey another thread where Edm fills their needs and sends nothing of value back. Yipppee

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Hey another thread where Edm fills their needs and sends nothing of value back. Yipppee

Oilers definitely don't "need" a rookie goalie. They're trying to win a cup in the next couple of years.

Askarov would have been a good target like 5 years ago but teams don't win without experience in goal.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Oilers definitely don't "need" a rookie goalie. They're trying to win a cup in the next couple of years.

Askarov would have been a good target like 5 years ago but teams don't win without experience in goal.

Are you sure about that?

 

[TheNumber4]

As if Askarov is the answer for any contender. These boards were saying Wallstedt was a huge miss for the Oil as if it's a foregone conclusion that a prospect was going to be an elite starter in this League. .864 in the AHL this year says STFU.

If the Oilers upgrade on Stu, and that's a big if, it'll be someone established atleast at the NHL level, not some magic beans that Nashville didn't even believe in.

 

[FiveTacos]

In not an oiler fan. But just because the ducks have players in those slots doesn't mean they can't in theory puck up extra players in those top slots and figure out who they like best. Having young top 4 doesn't mean another prospect is guaranteed as the 5th best. Development isn't always linear.

True, but if I have 4 more highly regarded dmen than what's being offered, then 1) what's being offered isn't THAT special, and 2) I'm not desperate enough for that player to give up a guy who looks like he has a high probability of being my starter for the next decade.

I agree the Oilers would have a hard time offering a specific piece to the ducks that would exceed their top prospects. But moves like Drysdale for Gauthier do happen.

I don't think the Oilers have a single prospect regarded that highly. Other teams might.

I've already said it's possible the ducks keep Dostal. I'm just saying if the Oilers suddenly said they'd offer something ridiculous like the equivalent of 3 firsts (expected to be late and in future years), the Ducks would at least pause.

Late 1sts aren't worthless, but they're not gold either. The median outcome is nothing special. You most likely end up with a good B prospect.

The Ducks have had a dozen picks in rounds 1-3 the last two drafts alone. Quantity is not lacking for the Ducks ... at this point in their rebuild it's all about getting as much quality as possible. A top 10 pick is worth more than three late 1sts to a team in their position.

Besides which, you think there's not other teams that would offer 3 late 1sts for Dostal? If he were publicly made available, you'd have several playoff teams in on it. Hell, he's young enough some rebuilding teams might put together an offer ... and odds are they'd actually have blue chippers to offer.

 

[BillR10]

Sharks gave up a 1st and a recent 1st rd center prospect to get Askarov as they believe he is the future for them. There's 0 chance they'd entertain this offer and very little chance they'd entertain any offer tbh. They have no reason to move him

 

[Empoleon8771]

This is one of the most amazing proposals I’ve ever seen on this site. It’s a fan completely disregarding the needs of the other team while asking the other team to trade a guy for less than what they just traded for him.

Just not a shred of logic in the deal.

 

[Shark Finn]

I know Askarov hated playing in the A with the Preds and has had to swallow his disappointment with the Sharks too, playing with Barracuda, but come on.. A 4th round pick?!

 

[Fjordy]

Zero sense for Sharks.

 

[Soundwave]

McKenzie Blackwood would make more sense for both sides.

 

[Patty Ice]

McKenzie Blackwood would make more sense for both sides.

I agree. As Blackwood fan, I'd love to see what he could do with a contender but, as a Sharks fan, I'd love to keep him as the short term starter then eventual backup to Askarov.

Maybe a slightly worn Vanecek would be of interest instead.

 

[archangel2]

I don't think this is a knee jerk trade proposal. Oiler fans have been questioning Stuart Skinner's ability to backstop the team to a Stanley Cup. They came within two goals in game seven last year.

This year it seems even some of Skinner's teammates are running out of patience with his sub .900 play. So if the Oilers *really* want to go for it:



Yaroslav Askarov (G)
San Jose's 4th round pick 2025



Oilers 1st round pick 2026
Stu Skinner (G)
Matt Savoie

Oilers on theory can not trade their 2026 pick

 

[SherVaughn30]

Try again. You want Askarov, you will have to cough up a 1st rounder and a high tier forward prospect, plus a scoring forward from the roster! Caps/Goalie fan...Skinner/Pickard are average at best. Sharks already have Blackwood and Vanecek. Since Sharks/Oilers are Pacific Division rivals, the trade price costs more!

 

[benfranklin]

Oilers definitely don't "need" a rookie goalie. They're trying to win a cup in the next couple of years.

Askarov would have been a good target like 5 years ago but teams don't win without experience in goal.

Age and regular season games played before winning the Cup.

Cam Ward - 22yo and 28gp
Annti Niemi - 26yo and 42gp
Matt Murray - 22 and 23yo 13gp and 62gp
Jordan Binnington - 25yo and 33gp
Adin Hill - 27yo 101gp

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Age and regular season games played before winning the Cup.

Cam Ward - 22yo and 28gp
Annti Niemi - 26yo and 42gp
Matt Murray - 22 and 23yo 13gp and 62gp
Jordan Binnington - 25yo and 33gp
Adin Hill - 27yo 101gp

the fact that in the last ~50 years five guys have done out of the hundreds of rookie goalies that have played is probably more reason not to do it than to do it, honestly.