As of TODAY, where is McDavid on the all time list in your opinion?

[NVious]

I don't get it. Is...JT Miller overrated in your world?

You can't overrate the perfect player.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Currently? Top 20.

If he never played another game, I'd have him somewhere between 10 and 15.

He's still got a lot of career to go and some milestones he should be ticking off if he's going to be in the conversation for a place in the Top 5. But, I can see getting there. I just hope his eventual SC win isn't with the Oilers (or Leafs).

 

[amnesiac]

Somewhere around 10th, close to Richard and Bourque for me, below Crosby, Jagr, Hull, Beliveau, Hasek… but will undoubtedly pass them all

 

[Video Nasty]

He does not have an argument for being up there with the Big 4.

Howe was as good offensively with his placement in the Big 4 being as much about his all around game and longevity.

Orr and Mario were on other levels that McDavid has yet to reach.

Most of your post is fair. I understand the need to wait another handful of seasons before officially sliding McDavid into top 5 status—though I’m pretty sure you waived that rule when inducting Crosby.

I already covered Orr and Mario and why he can build a case against them based off being nearly as good yet having far more longevity, which brings us to Howe.

If McDavid keeps this up, it’s going to look pretty silly arguing against him, when his trophy cabinet is comparable or even exceeds what Howe did in a 6 team league 70 or so years ago. I’m fairly certain that McDavid has already equaled the number of top two PPG finishes Howe had, and that includes the ones Howe had past his age 28 season, which is what McDavid is currently in.

Will 6 Harts and 6 additional finalist nominations from such a small pool of players really outweigh something like 5 and 5 from McDavid in present day? I don’t think so.

 

[boompuffboom]

when we wins 2-3 cups maybe he can crack the lineup.

having him before Crosby, at this point, is outrageous.

 

[blundluntman]

I have him hovering around 10 butI have a hard time giving him a definitive spot . IMO he’s top 5 talent/peak wise, but all time lists factor in accomplishments and career value so it’s hard to justify him over the Beliveaus and Richards. Orr in the top 4 is different given he peaked a tier higher and got more bang for his buck (also won the cups which matters in discussions).