Speculation: Article: Should and will the Canucks trade Tanev?

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Should the Canucks trade Chris Tanev?

JASON BOTCHFORD
More from Jason Botchford
Published: July 19, 2016
Updated: July 19, 2016 7:24 PM PDT

When Team Canada was hugging a third-period lead in the gold medal game at the world hockey championships, Chris Tanev was playing more than anyone.

He is 26 years old, and there is a distinct possibility he could average out as the best defensive defenceman in hockey for the next three to five years.

That skill set seems like it should be vitally important to the Vancouver Canucks, a team yearning to get back into a playoff race after giving up the eighth-most goals in the NHL last season.

But you can’t help but wonder.

Should the Canucks trade Tanev?

At those world championships, it was evident Bill Peters, Canada’s coach, came to the same conclusion many who closely follow the Canucks have come around on.

Tanev is among the most reliable defenders in hockey.

It’s a point that’s been underscored by the booming growth in hockey analytics, which has been spreading like Pokemon Go for two years.

One of the great successes of the analytics movement has been the way it’s allowed people to quantify the effectiveness of so-called stay-at-home blue-liners, whose impact on games can’t be understood with a scoresheet.

The underlying data can show who excels at suppressing shot attempts, and few in the league have been better than Tanev.

This past season, Tanev went from seventh to fifth among defencemen who played 1,000 minutes, in what some would call shot suppression, relative to the rest of his team.

Vancouver opponents averaged 7.52 fewer shot attempts-per-hour when Tanev was on the ice, than when he wasn’t.

It means the undrafted Tanev has become one of the league’s elite defenders, albeit one who provides very little in the way of offence.

It also means the league is quickly moving past the point where players like Tanev are incredibly underrated.

Just look at the Taylor Hall return the New Jersey Devils got for Adam Larsson, in what was the most lopsided deal of the summer, even if people can’t stop talking about Shea Weber for PK Subban.

Tanev is better than Larsson, and that is why it’s so difficult to escape that one lingering question this summer.

Should the Canucks trade him?

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He is getting better and better but also takes a lot of hits and a lot of wear not sure he makes it to his late 30s like a lot of other smooth non physical dmen so maybe his value is super hi now should the Canucks trade him or nah?

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[Mad Brills*]

No, but I could see benning trading him + gaunce for a marginal upgrade in barrie, or a winger like JVR

 

[KirkOut]

Did you have a stroke while writing the title? And no, they shouldn't

 

[Alexander Edler]

No Tanev will be our 2nd pairing RD behind liljegren

 

[Siludin]

Should not will not the Canucks to trade Christopher

 

[rent free]

yah they should. they can get 2 good defensive prospects or 1 fwd and 1 d prospect for him

 

[LondonKendrick]

No Tanev will be our 2nd pairing RD behind liljegren

What could you possible offer the Leafs to trade for Liljegren?

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

Benning would bungle the trade massively. So no, they shouldn't.

 

[oilerbear]

No, but I could see benning trading him + gaunce for a marginal upgrade in barrie, or a winger like JVR

So when you look at Even production averages.
FWD EVG/60 .65
FWD EVA1/60 .51
FWD EVA2/60 .41
Dman EVA2/60 .31
Dman EVA1/60 .25
Dman EVG/60 .17

What can be taken from this.
the more directly involved Dman is in EV Goal scoring the less likely a Goal will be scored.

when we look at top 271 EVP/60 players
261 are forwards
10 are Dmen.

Guess who drives offence in the NHL.

You want your D to get the puck to the player best skilled to generate GF for the team.
GF being 1/2 of winning!

The other half of the game is GA.

The area we're shots go in above the league average 8.5 to 20% is called the high scoring chance area.
on average 10.5 of the 30 shots in a game are HSCA shpts.
75% of the goals come from 1/3 of the shots in a game.

The HSCA shot range by D is 7.5 to 13.5
Men who are in the top end of HSCA Defence can reduce have GA 33% less than the worse D in the game.
VCR had 3 bottom 20 HSCA D last year.

you also want a top 8-10 HSCA save% goalie.
Miller was bottom 10.

the top 6 HSCA goalies last 3 years.
1. Price
2. Holtby
3. Schnieder
4. Lundquist
5. Talbot
6. Griess

2 Young goalies had top 5 seasons last year
Jones
Murray
Luongo has been on the bottom end of top 10 last 5 years.

Cup winning teams have a defensive base:
1. top 8 HSCA save% goalie
2. 3+ top 60 HSCA D

the final 8 playoff teams had 39 of the top 60 HSCA D.

VCR had 1 top 60 HSCA Dlast year.

Tanev
upr 2nd comp
Bot 2nd comp
top 40 HSCA D
#14 SA/60 D
his expected GA/60 should be top 25.
#119 D GA/60
Vcr goalies were bottom end HSCA save%

You guys could use a top 3 HSCA goalie like Schnieder.
or
even a top 10 guy like Luongo.

Last thing you want to do is trade one of the 30 best Dmen at the primary skill of a DEFENCE MAN!
for a bottom 20 HASCA D
who is bottom 40 SA D
who tries to drive Offence.

Gudbranson
Bottom 1st comp
mid 2nd team
top 30 HSCAD
Bottom 60 Sa D
even with a high Sa count he is able to limit the HSCA shots Aginst.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Hell yeah they should trade him. Benning will send him to the Rangers for Rick Nash so that they're "one step closer to the playoffs"

 

[Treb]

What could you possible offer the Leafs to trade for Liljegren?

The Leafs get Nolan Patrick

 

[Crede777]

No they shouldn't. So Benning probably will...

 

[major major]

The debate that you need to have first is "Should the Canucks do a full rebuild?" I think the answer is yes.

From there you can decide who to move - trading Tanev would be the fastest way to Nolan Patrick, but he's also young enough to be a foundation piece when the team recovers. I would trade the Sedins for sure.

 

[s7ark]

As an Oilers fan, yes, they should absolutely trade him. Ideally to my team but if not, to the East.

 

[Skirbs1011]

The question should be, to do a full rebuild or not.


Which its far to late for now after signing Eriksson.


They could have elected to Trade Edler, Tanev the Sedins for more core players of the future.

Tanev stays no way around it.

 

[DadBod]

Tanev is so damn good I fear if Benning ever traded him he'd get $.1 on the $1

 

[JuniorNelson]

Canucks rarely do what they should do. They aren't going to do anything more this Summer. They might invite a long shot like Wisniewski to camp, for comparison purposes but they are finished tinkering otherwise. They take time off now.

 

[Street Hawk]

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He is getting better and better but also takes a lot of hits and a lot of wear not sure he makes it to his late 30s like a lot of other smooth non physical dmen so maybe his value is super hi now should the Canucks trade him or nah?

Should they trade Tanev?

Before they made the Gudbranson trade, they could have considered it for the right price.

But, after acquiring Gudbranson, there is no chance that they move Tanev.

This column makes little sense.

Gudbranson may be 3 years younger, but Tanev is the better skater, thus that helps to reduce the age advantage for Gudbranson. Tanev has a $4.45 million cap hit. Canucks would be lucky to get EG at the same amount on his next contract.

I'd rather have Tanev, McCann and whomever they could have picked at #33 over Gudbranson and what they could get for Tanev.

 

[thepuckmonster]

Typical Botchford summer trash article.

Benning has said he's not willing to trade Tanev amongst other players like Horvat and Boeser.

 

[JAK]

Botchford is Eklund level

 

[Rebuilt]

Canucks arent rebuilding. If they were they wouldnt have signed Erikkson for 5 years.

 

[Skobel24]

Did you have a stroke while writing the title? And no, they shouldn't

 

[Frank Garrett]

Heck no. Build it from Demko out and try to make Tanev a lifer. I hope Jimmy is done dealing picks and young guys and gives this group a chance.

 

[M2Beezy]

Canucks arent rebuilding. If they were they wouldnt have signed Erikkson for 5 years.

6 years

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Oh FFS.

Paper article suggesting we should check out Tanev's worth as long as the market's hot.

Offseason. Botchford. OP.

Dammit MtoB, I'm going to to drive over to your place and shoot you with a tranquilizer gun full of ritalin. Seriously, I know you're young but learn.