Since lower level footballers can play over their heads, it's not that hard to see.
Try again, you might hit the jackpot once in a while.
Your trolling in every thread is tiresome.
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Try again, you might hit the jackpot once in a while.
Your trolling in every thread is tiresome.
Duchene2MacKinnon
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Erh, something's not right here
I didn't "harp" on Arteta for not being champs. So not sure what your point is.
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My only question I guess is that after 4 years and 3 coaches of mostly garbage, what would it take for the finger to be pointed at the quality of the players if this hadn’t been enough? Would 8 years and 6 coaches of underachieving be enough to then look at the quality of the players?
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Duchene2MacKinnon
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I didnt say that?Erh, something's not right here
I didn't "harp" on Arteta for not being champs. So not sure what your point is.
I said you harped on Arteta for not being Pep/Klopp. When you asked the board to have them swap squads.
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Arteta did not go in there with the intent to play bunker ball. This is a Pep trained man after all. What happens was, that at the end of last season and start of this season, Arsenal has 3 successful (as in they got the win) vs Liverpool and City where they set up to absorb pressure and take a chance on opportunistic counters.
I just think he ended up deciding that the play style that got those results vs the two strongest teams in the league was more suited for the squad he currently has.
I don’t think he all of the sudden became Mourinho in philosophy, and I doubt he’ll employ these tactics throughout his career, it just appears that he feels for the time being, with this squad, it’s the best approach.
Whether it is or isn’t is up for debate, but I feel he plays like this because he feels it’s a necessity at this time.
I just think he ended up deciding that the play style that got those results vs the two strongest teams in the league was more suited for the squad he currently has.
I don’t think he all of the sudden became Mourinho in philosophy, and I doubt he’ll employ these tactics throughout his career, it just appears that he feels for the time being, with this squad, it’s the best approach.
Whether it is or isn’t is up for debate, but I feel he plays like this because he feels it’s a necessity at this time.
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Playing defensively isn't main issue although it is one, how many times will I have to explain that for you to understand.
The issue is that he doesn't understand a simple footballing principle that is needed no matter how offensive your approach is. Arteta does not understand that you need players between the lines and that you need to allow your players fluidity to move. When we have the ball, there is strict positioning and patterns of play he forces the players into, therefore we obviously won't be effective on the ball since it leads to robotic, predictable football. If he just understood that you need to rely on natural dynamics instead of a strict "system" on the ball we would score way more. Look at the passmap for instance.
YNWA14
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tbf Ole is 100x the manager that Arteta is.
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Ole is a great manager to be fair. Better than Lampard, way way better than Arteta, yet the most criticized.
Duchene2MacKinnon
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So wait? Does this mean Ole is a decent manager or Arteta is the worst manager out there by far?
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robertmac43
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He understands it, but he clearly doesn't trust half of the starting lineup and thus does not give them license to play a more fluid brand of football.
YNWA14
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Yeah I thought he was defending him against my post.
Either way I remember it took United fans a while to also recognize that their squad was relatively average (a lot of people here, including Liverpool fans, claimed United had the 3rd or 2nd best squad on paper in the PL, and one of them is arguing vehemently in favour of the Arsenal players now...though there's an obvious bias and link there) a few years back, I remember having the discussion because I was getting crapped on for saying it despite Mourinho's finish while everyone was blaming him for United's downfall. I just think it'll take a bit for some posters to come around (and some will always be in denial about it because a couple of the players did well in another league one time or something, and that is the only measuring stick).
That's what you're doing all day.
At some point a little wisdom has to be added
Saying Wenger had this roster is a lie.
Saying he didn't achieve top 6 is a lie.
Basically that's another point of yours that's a lie.
Business as usual.
Nope. I didn't harp on him. Nor blamed him.
So yeah. I was merely pointing out coaching's importance relative to the squad
Good thing we watch games then.
