Around the NHL: We Really Like It, We Want Moar Playoffs!!!

[PlamsUnlimited]

Penguins playing like garbage. But they have Fleury who apparently is god. Lirl

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

A lot of hype for Fleury was due to his monstrous WJC tournament, which he flat out dominated before his draft year.

Same hype with Jack Campbell. Who? Yeah, he's probably forgotten now.

But, I seem to also remember Fleury had a very bad reputation of "melting down" even before he was drafted. Wasn't that a big negative in his international play?

 

[Kershaw]

Part of the time they do use the wing on the far wall. But, they also attack through the middle as well as using momentum moving through the neutral zone.

They rarely over extend their forwards in the neutral zone. They are almost always moving fluidly and not stationary like the Rangers.

Can attain that to personnel. Rangers can't consistently run fluidly like them since they're just not that good. Sorry to say it. The Bruins and Rangers did play a very similar possession system during the regular season. Working the boards, cycling, transition game with speedy wingers down the wing, Chara/Boychuk/MacQuaid/Seidenberg slapping pucks along boards for wingers, etc. Difference is flat out talent between forward corps.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

A lot of hype for Fleury was due to his monstrous WJC tournament, which he flat out dominated before his draft year.

Same hype with Jack Campbell. Who? Yeah, he's probably forgotten now.

That was also the decade of the Super Invincible QMJHL Army of Butterfly Netminders. The middle of the Patrick Roy hayday where damned near every kid in Quebec strapped on the pads and tried to be the Next Patrick.

Teams went nutso drafting nearly every half decent tender from Quebec while virtually ignoring all the other leagues. And they wonder why Team Canada's goaltending prospects now are in the crapper.

 

[Richter Scale]

Its time for Cindy and Shrek to goon it up. You knows its gonna happen.

Yup, and then they get to not have any repercussions for it.

Like when Malkin blatantly instigated a fight with Zetterberg in the final 5 minutes of Game 2 of the 2009 Stanley Cup Finals... an automatic suspension for the next game. The NHL (Bettman) then proceeds to rescind it so that Malkin is not suspended, with the explanation that the rule is meant to apply to "enforcers only". Since when are there rules that are applied selectively to certain types of players? The rule says no such thing. If Malkin gets suspended as he should have been, Pitt almost certainly doesn't win game 3, goes down 3-0 in the series, and likely doesn't get that cup. That is the best.

And there are really people who wonder why some think the NHL plays favorites with the Pens. **** the Pens.

 

[LetterJ]

That was also the decade of the Super Invincible QMJHL Army of Butterfly Netminders. The middle of the Patrick Roy hayday where damned near every kid in Quebec strapped on the pads and tried to be the Next Patrick.

Teams went nutso drafting nearly every half decent tender from Quebec while virtually ignoring all the other leagues. And they wonder why Team Canada's goaltending prospects now are in the crapper.

Ugh! Even the Rangers bit: Antoine Lafleur

 

[Richter Scale]

Cuz Sather is the worst right?

Yup, pretty much.

 

[Blueshirt Believer]

Can attain that to personnel. Rangers can't consistently run fluidly like them since they're just not that good. Sorry to say it. The Bruins and Rangers did play a very similar possession system during the regular season. Working the boards, cycling, transition game with speedy wingers down the wing, Chara/Boychuk/MacQuaid/Seidenberg slapping pucks along boards for wingers, etc. Difference is flat out talent between forward corps.

Kershaw, they don't play the exact same breakout system. First off, Bruins wings are almost always pre set to intercept the puck along the wall in the D zone. For the Rangers, because they play collapsing zone D, the wings have to stay in between the net and the far wall(so they can block the shooting lane). Half the time, the Rangers winger lets the puck move to opposing teams point men.

Secondly, if the Rangers are on the far wall: They force plays along the wall no matter what. In fact, the center will often times assist in chipping the puck up the point through the boards.. The Bruins? Many times they will simply lateral the puck to the center who then breaks out the puck up the middle.

This isn't a player problem, this is coaching/system.

You can argue that Boston has better forwards. But their forwards are not so dramatically better as to argue that the Rangers can't have a functional transition game.

 

[mike14]

Ugh! Even the Rangers bit: Antoine Lafleur

Oh, you had to bring that up....

 

[Kershaw]

But, I seem to also remember Fleury had a very bad reputation of "melting down" even before he was drafted. Wasn't that a big negative in his international play?

Yeah, Fleury blew it in the gold medal game, but scouts were enamored with his goaler style.

 

[Kershaw]

But their forwards are not so dramatically better as to argue that the Rangers can't have a functional transition game.

Yes, yes they are. AINEC.

The difference between top 5 forward corps and bottom 10 forward group is pretty much the difference between the Boston Bruins and the New York Rangers. Rangers are fine at D and G, but their absymal forwards dramatically drag down the weight of their team.

 

[Synergy27]

Kershaw, they don't play the exact same breakout system. First off, Bruins wings are almost always pre set to intercept the puck along the wall in the D zone. For the Rangers, because they play collapsing zone D, the wings have to stay in between the net and the far wall(so they can block the shooting lane). Half the time, the Rangers winger lets the puck move to opposing teams point men.

Secondly, if the Rangers are on the far wall: They force plays along the wall no matter what. In fact, the center will often times assist in chipping the puck up the point. The Bruins? Many times they will simply lateral the puck to the center who then breaks out the puck up the middle.

This isn't a player problem, this is coaching/system.

You can argue that Boston has better forwards. But their forwards are not so dramatically better as to argue that the Rangers can't have a functional transition game.

You've got this perfectly right in my opinion. The Bruins forwards are without question better, but the skill difference (which is what's important here) is marginal. They've got us smoked in the physicality department though. Love seeing Horton/Lucic ***** Neal around in front of the net there. Awesome stuff.

 

[GregSirico]

the Bruins move the puck so well.

 

[The Gloaming]

I was under the impression that we'd be seeing a Crosby-Iginla pairing. I am disappoint.

(For the entertainment value)

 

[Kershaw]

I was under the impression that we'd be seeing a Crosby-Iginla pairing. I am disappoint.

(For the entertainment value)

Dupuis is better than Iginla at ES.

 

[OrbitalDynamics]

Soooo Miller to Pens at the draft?

Looks like the PIT GM's theory of loading up on forwards instead of getting some help on D is really paying dividends.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

the Bruins move the puck so well.

The core has been together for years. Same players, same lines, same system....makes it easier to integrate one or two players when everything else is rock solid.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Dupuis is better than Iginla at ES.

And yet, Bylsma continues to keep Iginla off of the top PP unit.

Also, I think Iginla should be with Crosby, regardless of that. Iginla/Malkin has just been a disaster. There is no chemistry of cohesion there whatsoever. Iginla has looked lost and confused far too many times.

 

[Blueshirt Special]

Yup, and then they get to not have any repercussions for it.

Like when Malkin blatantly instigated a fight with Zetterberg in the final 5 minutes of Game 2 of the 2009 Stanley Cup Finals... an automatic suspension for the next game. The NHL (Bettman) then proceeds to rescind it so that Malkin is not suspended, with the explanation that the rule is meant to apply to "enforcers only". Since when are there rules that are applied selectively to certain types of players? The rule says no such thing. If Malkin gets suspended as he should have been, Pitt almost certainly doesn't win game 3, goes down 3-0 in the series, and likely doesn't get that cup. That is the best.

And there are really people who wonder why some think the NHL plays favorites with the Pens. **** the Pens.

Thank you.

 

[GregSirico]

The core has been together for years. Same players, same lines, same system....makes it easier to integrate one or two players when everything else is rock solid.

It's like tic tac toe they know where they are at all times.

 

[BB58]

WOW nice flop.

 

[Kakko]

For how strong he is on his skates, Crosby sure went down easy there

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Could be a big turning point if ****sburgh scores.

 

[The Gloaming]

Lol Marchrat.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

LOL this PP is Benny Hill theme worthy