Around the NHL: PTO Season Becomes Waiver Season

[Diaspora]

Matthews is gone…he goes to a US market…Toronto signs Aho or Dubois

Dumbas can hoist this as he walks out

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Yes. The anarchy shitter.

Yes.

 

[Sound_n_Fury]

If I was sitting behind that jerk in the white suit behind the Seattle goal who bangs on the glass and makes and ass of himself every time Dallas gets in that end, I'd consider murder charges to be a fair deal.

 

[Chainshot]

Dallas-Seattle off to Game 7.

 

[Cirris]

I wonder if the Leafs' top-heavy roster failures gives other GMs pause in future signings.

Then you look at deals like Thompson and Cozens and smile. Cause you can actually afford to keep more of a core with those deals.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

He still is in my book. What changed for you?

He's still a dickhead. I didn't realize he can actually play a little bit of hockey too.

Couldn't have convinced me of that when he was with the Flyers.

 

[Montag DP]

It would be wild if we had a VGK-SEA Western Conference final. The latest expansion team versus the previous one.

 

[Fjordy]

I remember here I offered to trade for Tolvanen, the change of scenery clearly benefited him.

 

[Gras]

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

It would be wild if we had a VGK-SEA Western Conference final. The latest expansion team versus the previous one.

It’s the real money ball of the nhl. You don’t need a top line, or core 4, you roll so deep that the opposing coach can’t matchup lines. It’s where tage and cozens contracts give us an edge going forward. I’m 100% pay Dahlin but if he could come in with 1mil less than fair market, this team could be set in spades. Would love to free up skinners money as well.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Dallas-Seattle off to Game 7.

At the point, I have little confidence in Dallas winning this series. Esp. if Otter has lost his magic. Peterson needs to have his photo placed on a milk carton because he is missing in action. The Stars D beyond Suter and Heiskanen (sp?) is really questionable. Seguin is done as a difference maker so that's 2 lines that have useless players on them.

 

[Chainshot]

At the point, I have little confidence in Dallas winning this series. Esp. if Otter has lost his magic. Peterson needs to have his photo placed on a milk carton because he is missing in action. The Stars D beyond Suter and Heiskanen (sp?) is really questionable. Seguin is done as a difference maker so that's 2 lines that have useless players on them.

I don't mind that a team that is basically just a collection of energetic 2nd lines is advancing. In the realm of imitation, it makes me wonder how others might try to do so.

It also makes me wonder if they want to cash in on more expansion money to the owners by yet more expansion by selling new prospective bidders on the Knights and now Kraken early success.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

It would be wild if we had a VGK-SEA Western Conference final. The latest expansion team versus the previous one.

Let's get real about this...... NHL changed the rules on expansion rostering to make new teams more competitive. Fine. But my personal belief is they went too far...... I mean anyone remember Washington, Ottawa and Atlanta's entry years. Hell, the Sabres were pretty bad their 1st couple of years in the league too.

Vegas goes to the finals in their 1st year? Now Seattle to the Conference finals (probably) in their 2nd? So much for trials and tribulation and patience and learning from adversity. I want it now and I want it all!

I get growing the game and am all for it....... to a point. But the real message here is that the owners really, really like those expansion dollars so why not do a couple more while they are at it and strip teams who have worked hard to rebuild and endured tribulation of their emerging talent bases too....?

Just my own personal view of a pendulum that has swung too far in one direction.

I don't mind that a team that is basically just a collection of energetic 2nd lines is advancing. In the realm of imitation, it makes me wonder how others might try to do so.

It also makes me wonder if they want to cash in on more expansion money to the owners by yet more expansion by selling new prospective bidders on the Knights and now Kraken early success.

I admire what Seattle has done with building their roster. Congrats for a great strategy and it's nice to see alternative roster strategies succeed!

Yes on expansion $$. That's exactly the MoO here.

 

[Chainshot]

Let's get real about this...... NHL changed the rules on expansion rostering to make new teams more competitive. Fine. But my personal belief is they went too far...... I mean anyone remember Washington, Ottawa and Atlanta's entry years. Hell, the Sabres were pretty bad their 1st couple of years in the league too.

Vegas goes to the finals in their 1st year? Now Seattle to the Conference finals (probably) in their 2nd? So much for trials and tribulation and patience and learning from adversity. I want it now and I want it all!

I get growing the game and am all for it....... to a point. But the real message here is that the owners really, really like those expansion dollars so why not do a couple more while they are at it and strip teams who have worked hard to rebuild and endured tribulation of their emerging talent bases too....?

Just my own personal view of a pendulum that has swung too far in one direction.


I admire what Seattle has done with building their roster. Congrats for a great strategy and it's nice to see alternative roster strategies succeed!

Yes on expansion $$. That's exactly the MoO here.

If new ownership is shelling out $650M like the Kraken did, they're going to want more than what say the Knoxes put in (which in 2023 dollars would be $44M. That's the way of it because people aren't going to foot the bill to suck for decades. Hell, Columbus has never really had any success either from the later expansions and they paid 80M in 2000 to join the league which would only be $125M in 2023 dollars. They built in hobbling the expansion teams deliberately at the outset instead of making them competitive. Now they've gone the other way but it makes fans of teams that have waited an eternity displeased.

 

[Ace]

Me at 1pm - alright…ready for some weekend afternoon hockey!
…oh yeah the East is all done this round. Oh well.

Me at 4pm - alright…ready for some weekend early evening hockey!
…oh…ok…I guess they didn’t want the west coast game at 1 even though it’s Sunday.

Me at 7pm - alright…ready for some primetime hockey!
…oh come on!

Me at 10pm - screw you NHL.

 

[old kummelweck]

I wonder if the Leafs' top-heavy roster failures gives other GMs pause in future signings.

Right. If you are going to give 4 players that type of scratch, two of them should be defensemen.

 

[Havok89]

Me at 1pm - alright…ready for some weekend afternoon hockey!
…oh yeah the East is all done this round. Oh well.

Me at 4pm - alright…ready for some weekend early evening hockey!
…oh…ok…I guess they didn’t want the west coast game at 1 even though it’s Sunday.

Me at 7pm - alright…ready for some primetime hockey!
…oh come on!

Me at 10pm - screw you NHL.

8pm start in Edmonton on a Sunday makes no sense at all

 

[NotABadPeriod]

8pm start in Edmonton on a Sunday makes no sense at all

Game's on ESPN, and they don't want to bump afternoon basketball or evening baseball for it. Or put the game on ESPN2 and compete against those things.

They should have given the game to Turner. We would have had a better start time.

 

[Ace]

Game's on ESPN, and they don't want to bump afternoon basketball or evening baseball for it. Or put the game on ESPN2 and compete against those things.

They should have given the game to Turner. We would have had a better start time.

Everything about this reads like this isn’t a real sports league.

Cant bump or compete with a May cross conference baseball game...1 of literally over 2500 games played a year…perhaps, in fact, somehow the least important one…for the best player in the world in the playoffs…in an elimination game

Joke league.

 

[Chainshot]

Right. If you are going to give 4 players that type of scratch, two of them should be defensemen.

Seriously for a moment though, cap % when signed -

Matthews at 14.64%
Tavares at 13.84%
Marner at 13.38%
(Rielly at 9.2%)
Nylander at 8.76%

Three guys over 10% of cap value when signed is the big problem. One of those three is not the difference maker that contract demands. I also suspect the one of the two defenseman will be around 11.5% and the other closer to 8.5% when all is done with them, which would make both way, way better than any of the Leafs salary structure.

 

[old kummelweck]

Seriously for a moment though, cap % when signed -

Matthews at 14.64%
Tavares at 13.84%
Marner at 13.38%
(Rielly at 9.2%)
Nylander at 8.76%

Three guys over 10% of cap value when signed is the big problem. One of those three is not the difference maker that contract demands. I also suspect the one of the two defenseman will be around 11.5% and the other closer to 8.5% when all is done with them, which would make both way, way better than any of the Leafs salary structure.

That roster is f***ed.

 

[sabremike]

#BewareTheHare

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

And because of course it would happen, Sunday Night Baseball ran long, so Oilers/Knights started on ESPN2... and then both teams scored in the opening minute. And then after SNB ended, ESPN inexplicably went to commercial instead of going right to Edmonton, while the Oilers scored again to make it 2-1.

 

[Snippit]

Watching how good Vegas bottom 6 is...makes me think we should strive harder than the likes of Girgs and Okposo for our 4th line.

Guys like Carrier, Roy, even Blueger are so effective for them.

 

[Dingo44]

I like Bucci as a person but man this ESPN broadcast crew is rough. This is their second team for the playoffs?

 

[MOGlLNY]

Ugh