Around the NHL - Part XLIII

80shockeywasbuns

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The Sens and the Sabres locking in their shiny, fancy, high end young talent long term with HF approved contracts sucking absolutely forever is my favorite NHL subplot year after year.

Sens haven't made the playoffs in 8 years with a 'proper' rebuild. Buffalo in 14 (!). But one of these decades they're gonna make it and we'll all be sorry the Rangers give bridge deals.

And we will rue the day. Rue the day!!!!

Just think, if the Rangers didn't sign Panarin and did a proper rebuild, they too could be going on many years without a playoff berth!
If the rangers were located in Buffalo they’d be the Sabres
 
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idk what the point of your comment was then. its fine, lets move on to laughing at the Senators.

Only 5 more years of Josh Norris!

Jake Sanderson was given 8/64 off his ELC and has responded with 0 ES points in 18 games (!!!) and is -12. Thank God they didn't bridge him. Smell the value.
 
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80shockeywasbuns

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idk what the point of your comment was then. its fine, lets move on to laughing at the Senators.

Only 5 more years of Josh Norris!

Jake Sanderson was given 8/64 off his ELC and has responded with 0 ES points in 18 games (!!!) and is -12. Thank God they didn't bridge him. Smell the value.

Yeah idk It’s just a weird take. Buying out UFA years and prioritizing young players very early is always a good strategy assuming you can actually evaluate talent and project production. Nothings inherently bad about bridge deals either, but when you bridge players that very obviously should be the core it’s cheeks. What’s the worst that happens when you sign the ELC guy long term? 8 million AAV liability? NYR currently have a couple of those despite bridging anything that moves haha
 

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The Sens and the Sabres locking in their shiny, fancy, high end young talent long term with HF approved contracts sucking absolutely forever is my favorite NHL subplot year after year.

Sens haven't made the playoffs in 8 years with a 'proper' rebuild. Buffalo in 14 (!). But one of these decades they're gonna make it and we'll all be sorry the Rangers give bridge deals.

And we will rue the day. Rue the day!!!!

Just think, if the Rangers didn't sign Panarin and did a proper rebuild, they too could be going on many years without a playoff berth!
Would like to point out that one of the most catastrophic miscalculations in league history was in fact Botts bridging Sam Reinhart when he wanted to sign long term because he wanted Sam to "prove it".
 
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idk what the point of your comment was then. its fine, lets move on to laughing at the Senators.

Only 5 more years of Josh Norris!

Jake Sanderson was given 8/64 off his ELC and has responded with 0 ES points in 18 games (!!!) and is -12. Thank God they didn't bridge him. Smell the value.
Holy shit are those Sanderson numbers real? Sens fans insist he’s a #1 D already
 
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effen

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Yeah idk It’s just a weird take. Buying out UFA years and prioritizing young players very early is always a good strategy assuming you can actually evaluate talent and project production. Nothings inherently bad about bridge deals either, but when you bridge players that very obviously should be the core it’s cheeks. What’s the worst that happens when you sign the ELC guy long term? 8 million AAV liability? NYR currently have a couple of those despite bridging anything that moves haha
The bolded is doing a lot of work here. You guess wrong on your core, you're locked in for nearly a decade per guy you're wrong on. Extending out everyone forever is video game brain.

You don't even have to be catastrophically wrong, they can just be kinda mid. I'd bet Buffalo would rescind that Dylan Cozens contract right now. Josh Norris can score... when he plays. Does he do enough other stuff? Little late in the process to ask that question now for Ottawa.
 

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Clean hit, tucked arm, Knies saw it coming and didn't brace himself, slow down, nothing. If he doesn't care why should the Vegas player?
 
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Arms were down but shoulder connected with his face.
If the guy receiving the hit wants to skate neck first at you and not brace themself or slow down at all it's not really on you as a defender.

If they legislate that it is on the defender, guys are going to exploit that by leading with their neck more and making defenders not defend... which will make defenders go low on checks and destroy some knees. No one wants that.
 
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said the same thing when Colton dropped L. Hughes but skating like an unaware idiot doesn't make you ineligible to get hit and frankly that's something I hope doesn't ever change in hockey.
 
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Maybe a better example of when extending guys out of ELCs isn't a slam dunk even when it should make sense is the Minnesota Wild.

With Matthew Boldy, they extend him 7/49 during his last ELC year. Cool, Matt Boldy is awesome at hockey. Great contract. Except...

The Wild are in cap hell from the Suter/Parise buyouts. Instead of paying him $7M AAV right now, they could have him on a 2/7 bridge. The Wild are also 12-3-3, have Kaprizov scoring nearly 2 PPG and a surefire MVP candidate, and probably the best goalie in the league this year.

They could have $4M more space to play with right now for a team that suddenly has a lot of ingredients to make a real run. Maybe that would help. Maybe not. But we won't know because of that Boldy deal capping them out when it didn't have to.
 

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They're still saying that. They're saying he's the best player in that draft.
Well...it is not like Laf is tearing up the league . A defenseman also will take longer as a rule. That is my take on them two....without looking I don't know who all was in the draft . Personally....I doubt Laf ever leads the Rangers to anything . He might be a solid 65-75 pt guy but he just does not look like leadership material....at least not the kind I would like when it gets considerably more physical in the playoffs. He has a lot of lackadaisical shifts it seems . Hopefully though I am wrong and he adds some weight/muscle and becomes everything we want in a number one....I won't mind being wrong . I just want what is best for the club.
 

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We are getting real close to Gallant getting another coaching gig and it's gonna be damn funny. I can see him being okay for a year or two for a roster like Boston, but I see Red Wings fans and Habs fans calling for him. Either of those teams hiring him would be a monumental disaster and i'm here for it.
You should get a copy of Gallant's new book TURK ! It came out on the 20th.....or you could trade your book for his ! It is not coaching holding back the Rangers .
 

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Well...it is not like Laf is tearing up the league . A defenseman also will take longer as a rule. That is my take on them two....without looking I don't know who all was in the draft . Personally....I doubt Laf ever leads the Rangers to anything . He might be a solid 65-75 pt guy but he just does not look like leadership material....at least not the kind I would like when it gets considerably more physical in the playoffs. He has a lot of lackadaisical shifts it seems . Hopefully though I am wrong and he adds some weight/muscle and becomes everything we want in a number one....I won't mind being wrong . I just want what is best for the club.

Laf would have been a 75 point guy LAST season with PP time most likely and over PPG this year. What a bizarre take that sounds like something a Devils fan would write. He's the second best forward on this team.
 

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Laf would have been a 75 point guy LAST season with PP time most likely and over PPG this year. What a bizarre take that sounds like something a Devils fan would write. He's the second best forward on this team.
"would have" , "last season" , " most likely" .....LMAO....whatever you think .
 

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Holy shit are those Sanderson numbers real? Sens fans insist he’s a #1 D already
I honestly did not know he has had such a bad start to the season . Defensemen are weird.....the confidence factor is indeed real. He still has time to turn it around .

Just what many have been waiting for........ I suspect the lil woman will get me it for Christmas . It will likely be better than the Avery and Messier books....which I thought were really bad. TURK ! https://www.acornpresscanada.com/store/turk
 

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