Around the NHL - Part XLIII

[Mac n Gs]

At least one Drury is working today

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813644492924444873

 

[NYR Viper]

At least one Drury is working today

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813644492924444873

I'm still pissed the team didn't do the obvious thing in that draft and just take Drury

 

[Mac n Gs]

I'm still pissed the team didn't do the obvious thing in that draft and just take Drury

Maybe this is why Drury has traded all of our 2nds until the heat death of the universe? Can’t make terrible picks like Lindbom if you don’t have any 2nds

 

[2014nyr]

I'm still pissed the team didn't do the obvious thing in that draft and just take Drury

i'm sure the initial reaction of ranger fans on the internet would have been totally rational and not completely batsht insane ranting about nepotism wasting a draft pick.

 

[Profet]

i'm sure the initial reaction of ranger fans on the internet would have been totally rational and not completely batsht insane ranting about nepotism wasting a draft pick.

So....?

I would love a change of pace.

One where this fan base is wrong and management is right once in a while.

 

[RangersFan1994]

At least one Drury is working today

https://x.com/i/web/status/1813644492924444873

Rangers messed up by not drafting him. I wonder how that bust is doing

Maybe this is why Drury has traded all of our 2nds until the heat death of the universe? Can’t make terrible picks like Lindbom if you don’t have any 2nds

Make the Rangers draft better again. Imagine if the Rangers can make great picks like Stepan and Dubinsky again

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Rangers messed up by not drafting him. I wonder how that bust is doing



Make the Rangers draft better again. Imagine if the Rangers can make great picks like Stepan and Dubinsky again

Rangers have never been good at drafting. When they were finding Dubinsky and Stepan in the 2nd they were blowing 1st rounders on Al Montoya and Dylan McIlrath

 

[Profet]

Rangers have never been good at drafting. When they were finding Dubinsky and Stepan in the 2nd they were blowing 1st rounders on Al Montoya and Dylan McIlrath

Brendl and Lundmark... we can't lose!

Cherneski...

Kakko...

 

[RangersFan1994]

Rangers have never been good at drafting. When they were finding Dubinsky and Stepan in the 2nd they were blowing 1st rounders on Al Montoya and Dylan McIlrath

But they signed some decent UDFA Zuccarello Girardi, Pionk, and Georgiev to an extent

 

[effen]

Every team has (lots of) draft busts, guys. We've done this.

 

[effen]

For funsies, here's 20 years of DRAFT AND DEVELOPMENT GODS TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING 1st rounders:

Nikita Alexeev (BUST)
Alexander Svitov (BUST)
Andy Rogers (BUST)
Vladimir Mihalik (BUST)
Riku Helenius (BUST)
Steven Stamkos (All-Star)
Victor Hedman (All-Star)
Carter Ashton (BUST)
Brett Connolly (3rd/4th liner)
Vladislav Namestnikov (3rd/4th liner)
Slater Koekkoek (BUST)
Andrei Vasilevskiy (All-Star)
Jonathan Drouin (Journeyman)
Tony DeAngelo (CRAZY PERSON)
Brett Howden (Cup Champion 4th liner)
Cal Foote (ALLEGED DEVIANT AND BUST)
Nolan Foote (BUST SO FAR)

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lol at crazy person

 

[n8]

For funsies, here's 20 years of DRAFT AND DEVELOPMENT GODS TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING 1st rounders:

Nikita Alexeev (BUST)
Alexander Svitov (BUST)
Andy Rogers (BUST)
Vladimir Mihalik (BUST)
Riku Helenius (BUST)
Steven Stamkos (All-Star)
Victor Hedman (All-Star)
Carter Ashton (BUST)
Brett Connolly (3rd/4th liner)
Vladislav Namestnikov (3rd/4th liner)
Slater Koekkoek (BUST)
Andrei Vasilevskiy (All-Star)
Jonathan Drouin (Journeyman)
Tony DeAngelo (CRAZY PERSON)
Brett Howden (Cup Champion 4th liner)
Cal Foote (ALLEGED DEVIANT AND BUST)
Nolan Foote (BUST SO FAR)

Meanwhile, Anaheim has like 2-3 major busts (is 19 OA even in serious bust category?) in the last 20 years, and many of their underwhelming players, they've been timely with trading them for big assets a la Kilger + Tverdovsky for Selanne or Etem + Lupul for Pronger.

OT the rails fell off in ANA when they decided to not invest in the insane D-core of Lindholm, Theodore, Manson, Montour, Fowler. Funny how many of those players have won cups. Keeping Vantanen in the expansion draft was such a big mistake. They even had Marcus Pettersson circa that era and traded him away for Sprong. And these days, they have Solberg, Mintyukov, Zellweger, Lacombe.

More mad we took McIlrath over Fowler than Lindbolm over Drury. Rangers going off the board never goes well.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

For funsies, here's 20 years of DRAFT AND DEVELOPMENT GODS TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING 1st rounders:

Nikita Alexeev (BUST)
Alexander Svitov (BUST)
Andy Rogers (BUST)
Vladimir Mihalik (BUST)
Riku Helenius (BUST)
Steven Stamkos (All-Star)
Victor Hedman (All-Star)
Carter Ashton (BUST)
Brett Connolly (3rd/4th liner)
Vladislav Namestnikov (3rd/4th liner)
Slater Koekkoek (BUST)
Andrei Vasilevskiy (All-Star)
Jonathan Drouin (Journeyman)
Tony DeAngelo (CRAZY PERSON)
Brett Howden (Cup Champion 4th liner)
Cal Foote (ALLEGED DEVIANT AND BUST)
Nolan Foote (BUST SO FAR)

3 hall of famers isn’t a bad haul

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Joe Veleno re-signs with Detroit:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1814424858723275080

 

[Moist ReadOnly]

He hasn’t earned it but it’s an easy projection to see he can outproduce it.
So you lock him into a number that he hasn’t earned but will out produce anyways.

This way he takes it.
If you squeeze someone for every dollar then they’re gonna do the same.

Its not squeezing for every dollar; its the difference of dollars in the projection, which the Rangers would do well to manage as thats how you get better deals

I dont think 8x8 for Lafreniere, with the cap rising, is a bad contract. Its just not. But at this very moment the Rangers would do best to try and get him at 8x7m because thats better value

Is he really going to risk an injury-riddled year to make an extra 8m when he'll sign another large deal, if his projections are correct, at 29-30? You may be able to get him for that - just as NJ got Hughes at 8 and Hischier at 7

 

[bobbop]

Off topic but not sure where to put this.

Anyone know what hotel the Rangers stay at in Seattle? Planning a trip this year..

 

[jniklast]

3 hall of famers isn’t a bad haul

Maybe, but two of those were no-brainers at #1 and #2 overall.

 

[haohmaru]

Maybe, but two of those were no-brainers at #1 and #2 overall.

Like Lafreniere and Kakko lol.

 

[Roo Returns]

Rangers have never been good at drafting. When they were finding Dubinsky and Stepan in the 2nd they were blowing 1st rounders on Al Montoya and Dylan McIlrath

I'd say that's a little extreme. They've been good to very good at drafting several times in my life. They've been finding NHL talent just fine especially post-2004 lockout.

The issue is anytime they've made a mistake it's been fatal, and they haven't found their positional grand slam since Zubov. If they can get one for this core, they'll probably win a Cup.

 

[jniklast]

Like Lafreniere and Kakko lol.

Well, yeah. I don't think it's the Rangers' fault or the Lightning's savy drafting that is the difference but sheer luck.

 

[kovazub94]

Well, yeah. I don't think it's the Rangers' fault or the Lightning's savy drafting that is the difference but sheer luck.

Let’s remember how close they got to trading Stamkos before he even had a chance to play half season in his first year (at least based on reports I remember).

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Sprong had been mentioned here as a possible Rangers target:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1814739147346878595

 

[Roo Returns]

Sprong had been mentioned here as a possible Rangers target:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1814739147346878595

As said in the other thread, Lav didn't like his game when he was in DC.

Meanwhile, Anaheim has like 2-3 major busts (is 19 OA even in serious bust category?) in the last 20 years, and many of their underwhelming players, they've been timely with trading them for big assets a la Kilger + Tverdovsky for Selanne or Etem + Lupul for Pronger.

OT the rails fell off in ANA when they decided to not invest in the insane D-core of Lindholm, Theodore, Manson, Montour, Fowler. Funny how many of those players have won cups. Keeping Vantanen in the expansion draft was such a big mistake. They even had Marcus Pettersson circa that era and traded him away for Sprong. And these days, they have Solberg, Mintyukov, Zellweger, Lacombe.

More mad we took McIlrath over Fowler than Lindbolm over Drury. Rangers going off the board never goes well.

That regime did some quirky things. They're gone now.

 

[Circus86]

Sprong really isn't that good. He can put up points but he doesn't know what defense is. Apparently all the GM's where thinking that too.