NHL Around the NHL - Offseason moves and rumblings

[Pia8988]

What? Chiller was quite a bit worse than Krug. It’s not even really a debate.

 

[Fenian24]

If only we had Khokolachev and Colin Miller in the lineup, we would have beat Tampa easy

 

[BMC]

Life in Poutineville

Jack Todd: Shea Weber doesn't deserve fans adding insult to injury

Shea Weber reminds me a great deal of my favourite player, back in the days when I was a fan of the Canadiens, not a newspaper columnist: No. 19, Larry Robinson. Weber is even taller than Big Bird, with the same strength, the same ability to start a rush or stop one going the other way, the same utterly professional approach to his job.

Weber is also like Robinson in that he is humble and soft-spoken and (at times) visibly uncomfortable under the klieg lights of Montreal, but he has never complained, never tried to pass the blame for a loss to someone else, never embarrassed the uniform. Among all the towering defencemen of this era, there is only one who looms larger than the 6-foot-4 Weber: Boston’s 6-foot-9 Zdeno Chara.
So how does Weber, this classy man mountain who has given so much to the game, become such a target for fan fury that he is attacked for the unforgivable crime of getting himself injured while playing hockey?

Seriously, people. What is wrong with you?

It's Montreal, that's what is wrong.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

If only we had Khokolachev and Colin Miller in the lineup, we would have beat Tampa easy

I wish I could say, "You're better than this".

 

[BadBruins]

You can't say that. If Clode had played him, we don't know where the cards would right now.

He had the opportunity IMO. Mostly 3rd pairing and 1:40 of PP time here his final season. His play was still too uneven. Grzelyck provided a steady presence under similar circumstances and ice time this year.

I don't think there was any more opportunity for him here with McAvoy in the mix (and Carlo as a RHD). I think the mistake was not doing more to get something/anything out of a youngish asset. Easy say in hindsight, but that's what many were saying around the expansion draft as well. Kevan Miller made more sense for the 17/18 Bruins. I'm not sure Miller or McQuaid would have even been on the radar for Vegas. Maybe some maneuvering could have been done my management to retain Miller or get something small from Vegas. We'll never know.

I wouldn't waste much time thinking about Colin Miller. I bet Vatrano pops 20 in Florida. Wasn't happening here. Probably going to be a few more cases like this with the glut coming up on the wing and the blueline.

 

[LouJersey]

Why is it ok to have a 7 assist second pair defenseman but no room for a guy who can score 10 goals and 30 plus assists

 

[DrJustice]

Why is it ok to have a 7 assist second pair defenseman but no room for a guy who can score 10 goals and 30 plus assists

Because one is 21 on an ELC and the other is 25 making almost $4M+ to be a third pairing specialist.

No doubt it was a huge drop off for Carlo point total wise.

 

[EverettMike]

Current thread status: absurd

 

[LouJersey]

Because one is 21 on an ELC and the other is 25 making almost $4M+ to be a third pairing specialist.

No doubt it was a huge drop off for Carlo point total wise.

We have a 5plus million third pairing specialist already.

Also Chiller is better value then our two current bottom righties.

 

[LouJersey]

Current thread status: absurd

If you want to laugh punch up the Colin Miller player discussion thread from '15. Board really liked him up until he wasn't a Bruin anymore.

 

[EverettMike]

If you want to laugh punch up the Colin Miller player discussion thread from '15. Board really liked him up until he wasn't a Bruin anymore.

Or the Looch trade thread. What a deal by Sweeney!

 

[LouJersey]

Or the Looch trade thread. What a deal by Sweeney!

Loved the deal, hated exposing him. Oh well.

 

[DrJustice]

We have a 5plus million third pairing specialist already.

Unfortunately you have to pay better players more than worse players.

It's a fact that has long held back this franchise who tried going the other way for years.

 

[LouJersey]

Unfortunately you have to pay better players more than worse players.

It's a fact that has long held back this franchise who tried going the other way for years.

I like Krug and Carlo a lot but you go like this.

Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Carlo
Xxx-Chiller
McQ/Killer

 

[DrJustice]

I like Krug and Carlo a lot but you go like this.

Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Carlo
Xxx-Chiller
McQ/Killer

I honestly think I'd rather have McAvoy assume the powerplay duties that Chiller would have had here. Having guys like Killer and Carlo easy the burden on McAvoy from having to take on PK time and let the Bruins get the most out of him offensively. I'm hoping McAvoy will get moved up to the 1st unit sooner rather than later but having him on the 2nd unit does allow him to play more at even-strength I suppose.

Seems like there was going to be a tough choice either way at the expansion draft. I'm happy for Miller for getting that extra opportunity in Vegas.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

I like Krug and Carlo a lot but you go like this.

Chara-McAvoy
Krug-Carlo
Xxx-Chiller
McQ/Killer

Give me that lineup with a low cost Left Handed KMiller/MCQ on the 3rd pair. CMiller takes most of McQ/Killers salary and whatevers left over throw at 3rd LD.

No matter what pairing you have out, you have an offensive puck mover out there that's a threat.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Or the Looch trade thread. What a deal by Sweeney!

That was a good deal by Sweeney?

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

Loved the deal, hated exposing him. Oh well.

Using hindsight to its fullest, I think the best move after trading Lucic for that package, was to keep Jones and move Rask to one of the many teams who would have been interested. A team like Carolina probably would've paid the moon to solidify their goaltending. But again, can't fault Sweeney on that one. I do remember hearing rumblings that Rasks name was floated out there, but then they decided to move Jones instead.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Give me that lineup with a low cost Left Handed KMiller/MCQ on the 3rd pair. CMiller takes most of McQ/Killers salary and whatevers left over throw at 3rd LD.

No matter what pairing you have out, you have an offensive puck mover out there that's a threat.

Colin Miller in his last year with the B's had nearly identical stats to Grzelcyk's last year.

Give Grizz the PP time that Miller got with the Knights last year and I bet their stat lines are very similar. Plus, Grizz is younger and makes way better decisions in his own end than Miller.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Using hindsight to its fullest, I think the best move after trading Lucic for that package, was to keep Jones and move Rask to one of the many teams who would have been interested. A team like Carolina probably would've paid the moon to solidify their goaltending. But again, can't fault Sweeney on that one. I do remember hearing rumblings that Rasks name was floated out there, but then they decided to move Jones instead.

The rumor was that Sweeney wanted to keep Jones and move Rask, but thought that dealing Rask, Lucic, AND Hamilton in a couple of days would be too big a blow to continuity. Would be interesting to see how things had worked out if Rask had been shipped out.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Give me that lineup with a low cost Left Handed KMiller/MCQ on the 3rd pair. CMiller takes most of McQ/Killers salary and whatevers left over throw at 3rd LD.

No matter what pairing you have out, you have an offensive puck mover out there that's a threat.

We had that this year with McAvoy, Gryz and Krug

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

We had that this year with McAvoy, Gryz and Krug

IMO, Grzelcyk is a great skater with the puck, but doesn't pass as well as Colin Miller does. Gryz may edge him out slightly in rushing the puck up ice, but Colin has him beat in both passing and shooting. And I'll take the 6'1 guy over the 5'9 guy every time if most things are almost equal.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Good gamble by the Islanders. Could turn out well for them.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

IMO, Grzelcyk is a great skater with the puck, but doesn't pass as well as Colin Miller does. Gryz may edge him out slightly in rushing the puck up ice, but Colin has him beat in both passing and shooting. And I'll take the 6'1 guy over the 5'9 guy every time if most things are almost equal.

I’m not so sure on the passing component, but Grzelcyk’s hockey IQ is far superior to Miller’s. I will take the smarter, smaller player over the bigger guy every time.

 

[JOKER 192]

I’m not so sure on the passing component, but Grzelcyk’s hockey IQ is far superior to Miller’s. I will take the smarter, smaller player over the bigger guy every time.

Or maybe both, that would be nice.