Big Friggin Dummy
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I don't think that's crazy at all. I completely agree, and can't imagine how anyone would disagree.
MacKinnon's just on a completely different level when the games matter the most.OT: Around the NHL: non-Pens playoff talk
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MacKinnon's just on a completely different level when the games matter the most.
AuroraBorealis
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You guys are aware that McDavid had 9 points in 4 games in the bubble, right? (5 goals)
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Yeah. The difference is Colorado has depth to support their superstar and Edmonton is stocked with replacement-level playersYou guys are aware that McDavid had 9 points in 4 games in the bubble, right? (5 goals)
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You guys are aware that McDavid had 9 points in 4 games in the bubble, right? (5 goals)
Against a shitty Chicago team. MacKinnon seems to produce no matter who he faces.
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You guys are aware that McDavid had 9 points in 4 games in the bubble, right? (5 goals)
That's cool but MacKinnon had 25 in 15.
AuroraBorealis
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What that means is his team was good enough to advance and McDavid's was not.
Look guys...no disrespect to Mac but McDavid is probably the best player we'll get to see in our lifetimes.
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Meh. I'll be impressed when he actually does something in a real playoff series. Surprise surprise. No points and a couple shots tonight when it matters.
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MacKinnon's got a 1.4 points per game average in the playoffs across 41 games. McDavid's got a 1.05 points per game average in 17 games.
McDavid's unreal, and undoubtedly the more talented, but in the playoffs--especially lately--MacKinnon is on a level nobody's been on since Geno in 2009, imo.
McDavid's unreal, and undoubtedly the more talented, but in the playoffs--especially lately--MacKinnon is on a level nobody's been on since Geno in 2009, imo.
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Sid was on a roll in 2018 (21 in 12 games).
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Big Friggin Dummy
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That's fair, but as far as pure dominance goes, I can't remember anyone being this overwhelming since that historic Geno run in 2009. Point and Kucherov had gaudy numbers too, but MacKinnon is simply clowning on teams every time he steps on the ice.
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What about Mario or Gretzky? I mean come on. Now, if for some odd reason you're excluding (maybe you're too young to remember them), then you MIGHT have a point. But Mario and Gretzky were a sizable step up beyond any other forwards.
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This is totally correct. Here's the problem. Many Pens fans HATE and I do mean HATE the notion that someone was or is better than Sid. They hate the fact that sometimes Geno was better. That hurts their delicate sensibilities. Everybody knows McDavid plays for a team that's doomed to fail. No one with even a modicum of objectivity can blame him for the ineptitude the Oilers display year in and year out. I give him a pass and everyone should.
But don't worry Pens fans, McDavid will NEVER be on Lemieux's level. No one really was, but if someone says Gretzky that's a legit argument. But those two are in a class all to themselves. McDavid is clearly number three though. At least among forwards. There's simply no question about that. NONE! And if anyone disputes that they're not paying attention. Have an absurd agenda. Or, are sad and unremarkable souls who aimlessly parade here as legitimate posters but are really just haters of the game.
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Meh I'll be impressed when I see some objectivity on your part. PLEASE stop carry Sids water, k. He's not the best player in the world anymore. You need to accept that.
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He's a great player on a seemingly great team. We'll see if they hoist the cup this year. If Pittsburgh can't I hope they do, but I doubt they will.
Would be quiet happy if every Caps v Bruins game when to OT
AuroraBorealis
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Nope. Not too young. Not forgotten.
That's the goaltending and defense level Gretzky pumped up his numbers against. When people throw his records in the 80's in our faces every day for decades, those points were achieved with this crap as the backbone.
I mean don't me wrong. One of the best still. Vision off the charts. Remarkable creativity. Way ahead of his time. Way better at exploiting the era and situation he had than any of his rivals. Full credit there.
But better than McDavid? How?
Spare me.
You guys are aware that McDavid had 9 points in 4 games in the bubble, right? (5 goals)
And a 50% GF% at 5v5 against a pretty bad Chicago team.
MacKinnon had 73.08%.
Edmonton probably advance past the playin if McDavid had that level of on ice dominance. Maybe not much further as sure, the rest of the team's pretty bad, but there's no reason McDavid can't dominate the scoreboard when on ice.
Seems fair to me to question where McDavid is the best player in hockey come the playoffs when he's not.
This is a forest fire of a take.
By your logic then, McDavid was just better at exploiting the situation he was in this year playing in that North division right? 18 in 10 against Calgary, 21 in 9 against Ottawa, 22 in 10 against Vancouver.
No I seen Mario play.
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Well you have to judge players against their competition.
There are probably high school players playing right now that have better puck and skating skills than Gretzky had in his prime. That’s just the nature of time and the evolution of sport.
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You guys are aware that McDavid had 9 points in 4 games in the bubble, right? (5 goals)
Didn’t him and Drai also get lit up by Kane and Kubalik?
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I saw Lemieux and Gretzky and either would crush mcspeedy in scoring in any era....
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