OT: Around the NHL: Final stretch to the playoffs

[Randy Butternubs]

Got 'im!

 

[AuroraBorealis]

He'll have the most goals, but he'll never be the greatest goal scorer.

Crazy talk. He's definitely the greatest. More goals than Gretzky (soon) under far more difficult conditions to score.
Watch a Gretzky goal compilation from the 80's. The defense and goaltending is a complete joke.

The fact that shooters are better than ever, yet can't score 70, should clue you in.

Hell, I'd say he was the greatest goal scorer like 200 goals ago

 

[eXile3]

Crazy talk. He's definitely the greatest. More goals than Gretzky (soon) under far more difficult conditions to score.
Watch a Gretzky goal compilation from the 80's. The defense and goaltending is a complete joke.

The fact that shooters are better than ever, yet can't score 70, should clue you in.

Hell, I'd say he was the greatest goal scorer like 200 goals ago

Mario was the best and even though he also played a large portion of during high scoring eras he also did it in the lower scoring ones as well.

 

[Khelandros]

Crazy talk. He's definitely the greatest. More goals than Gretzky (soon) under far more difficult conditions to score.
Watch a Gretzky goal compilation from the 80's. The defense and goaltending is a complete joke.

The fact that shooters are better than ever, yet can't score 70, should clue you in.

Hell, I'd say he was the greatest goal scorer like 200 goals ago

Mario was the best and even though he also played a large portion of during high scoring eras he also did it in the lower scoring ones as well.

Bossy was the greatest goal scorer of all time. Bro said watch me and went out and did it.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Mario was the best and even though he also played a large portion of during high scoring eras he also did it in the lower scoring ones as well.

That's a tough sell with Mario's 3 Rockets to Ovi's 9.
Health probably derailed a few of those for Mario, but health is a key part of becoming great in sports.
And yes, I know the Rocket didn't exist until 1998-99, but you know what I mean.

Although I will say I'm more inclined to Mario over Wayne in this regard. Far higher goals per game under worse conditions, not just era-wise during career but also average roster strength.

 

[PamBallam]

Crazy talk. He's definitely the greatest. More goals than Gretzky (soon) under far more difficult conditions to score.
Watch a Gretzky goal compilation from the 80's. The defense and goaltending is a complete joke.

The fact that shooters are better than ever, yet can't score 70, should clue you in.

Hell, I'd say he was the greatest goal scorer like 200 goals ago

More goals than Gretz in ~2000 more shots. Give me Mario all day. Ovi is certainly the most durable goal scorer ever though.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Bossy was the greatest goal scorer of all time. Bro said watch me and went out and did it.

Bossy was spoiled with almost exclusively being on serious contenders, in the pre-salary cap era with bad goalies and bad defensive schematics.
He also didn't see a decline in his stats because his body gave out on him when he was 30. That really helps the goals per game count.

Certainly one of the best goal scorers ever though.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

More goals than Gretz in ~2000 more shots. Give me Mario all day. Ovi is certainly the most durable goal scorer ever though.

Product of the times. You have to shoot way more against these goalies to score, and with how D-men and Forwards keep you to the outside now. They don't let you cleanup easy rebounds all day either.
They plan around shutting Ovi down every game, with detailed video sessions and more expansive and knowledgeable coaching staffs, than in the 80s and 90s.

You can't just take an unscreened slapshot along the ice from near the blue line like Gretzky and beat a standup goalie in the Ovechkin era.

Ovi's just a high volume shooter, because that's what Washington ask him to do. A lot of his shots aren't intended to go in directly, but rather create chaos in front so someone else can score. Much like the pass of the pads tactic. He often is just getting it to the net from near the wall.

In terms of accuracy, Draisaitl is the one who goes for the kill the most often with his shots. Career 18.6% shooter. Often goes high and is very measured.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think if I'm down by a goal in a game 7 and the Cup is on the line, there's really nobody I'd rather have than Mario tbh. But I do think Ovechkin's the best pure goal scorer of all time. Dude's a one trick pony, but nobody does that trick like he does. /shrug

 

[Khelandros]

Bossy was spoiled with almost exclusively being on serious contenders, in the pre-salary cap era with bad goalies and bad defensive schematics.
He also didn't see a decline in his stats because his body gave out on him when he was 30. That really helps the goals per game count.

Certainly one of the best goal scorers ever though.

He scored 50+ goals nine straight seasons. Wayne only got eight in a row. Mario topped at 3. Ovi has only done it 3 seasons in a row as well. Bossy was a straight goal scorer.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I want him to get it in PIT so Sid can say "congratulations on your INDIVIDUAL goal scoring record...." but sid is too robot to say that

 

[Icarium]

It would be pretty funny if MON makes the playoffs after losing three times in regulation to this terrible Penguins team, including a 9-2 pummeling.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I think if I'm down by a goal in a game 7 and the Cup is on the line, there's really nobody I'd rather have than Mario tbh. But I do think Ovechkin's the best pure goal scorer of all time. Dude's a one trick pony, but nobody does that trick like he does. /shrug

That's how I always viewed Ovi- a 1 dimensional hockey player. But damn he does that 1 trick really well.

Ovi certainly the best goal scorer by raw data and when you figure in Quality of Opponents. But he's not even close to being the greatest hockey player.
Just like how I view Adam Oates as the best passer in the history of the league. Doesn't make him the best player either. Obviously goals are more important than assists.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

That makes me think skating distance over career would probably be pretty hilarious even with Ovechkin having played 110 more games (reg season + playoffs).

 

[66-30-33]

Congrats for tieing Gretzky Ovechkin. Now go for 1,000 goals, that would be legendary.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I think if I'm down by a goal in a game 7 and the Cup is on the line, there's really nobody I'd rather have than Mario tbh. But I do think Ovechkin's the best pure goal scorer of all time. Dude's a one trick pony, but nobody does that trick like he does. /shrug

I think I'd go prime Pavel Bure. Being an old wanker you get to see a lot of players and Bure if he is 100% healthy and on a good team and you need a goal, he’s going to get you that f***ing goal.

Bure to me is one of those blokes that could have had one of the most insane careers if he wasn’t held ransom to the Canucks when he wanted out way before they finally traded him and his knees were done.

 

[edog37]

Crazy talk. He's definitely the greatest. More goals than Gretzky (soon) under far more difficult conditions to score.
Watch a Gretzky goal compilation from the 80's. The defense and goaltending is a complete joke.

The fact that shooters are better than ever, yet can't score 70, should clue you in.

Hell, I'd say he was the greatest goal scorer like 200 goals ago

Both Lemieux & Mike Bossy were far better goal scorers (Lemieux’s five goals, every possible way on NYE puts that argument forever to rest). I’d even put Brett Hull up there too. That all said, congrats to Ovechkin, it’s still a great achievement.

 

[edog37]

I think if I'm down by a goal in a game 7 and the Cup is on the line, there's really nobody I'd rather have than Mario tbh. But I do think Ovechkin's the best pure goal scorer of all time. Dude's a one trick pony, but nobody does that trick like he does. /shrug

Nobody ever did this.

 

[Turin]

Pretty damn cool to tie Gretzky however the juice is in fact loose.

Something that is fun to do is go all the way back on the prospect board and look at old OV/Sid/Malkin threads from 03 and 04.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Gretzky is a chode so I don't mind Ovechkin breaking that record.

 

[Turin]

Florida has been awful since Ekblad got suspended

 

[Turin]

Didn't realize Ovechkin is also literally 1 game less played than Gretzky. That's wild.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The downfall of the Bruins is hilarious. I hope Pastrnak requests a trade this summer.

 

[Mr Nogatco]

I’m sure others are. I can’t ignore that this is basically Barry Bonds of the NHL. The dudes obviously juicing but the NHL is so committed to making this a feel good moment it’s getting swept under the rug.

41 goals at age 39: obviously juicing

20th ppg season at age 37: flintstones vitamins and hard work

 

[BusinessGoose]

41 goals at age 39: obviously juicing

20th ppg season at age 37: flintstones vitamins and hard work

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