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and in the playoffs, #5 in goals per game and #16 in goals against per game

The Western finals a better representation of their team and playoff style hockey.

Conference Finals
DATEOPPONENTRESULT ----Goalie ----- Top Performer
Sun, Sep 6vs Vegas *W1-0 Khudobin Khudobin
Tue, Sep 8vs Vegas *L3-0 Khudobin Oettinger
Thu, Sep 10vs Vegas *W3-2 OT Khudobin Khudobin
Sat, Sep 12vs Vegas *W2-1 Khudobin Khudobin
Mon, Sep 14vs Vegas *W3-2 OT Khudobin Khudobin
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And if we're to believe "high danger" statistics have any validity to them, Andersen ranked 1st of all starters in save percentage with 27 saves over 29 shots.
He wasn't first. Demko and Merzlikins (one of the goalies he faced - the other was 6th) were both ahead of him, and Andersen faced a pretty low quality of shooter. And you know what this means, right? It means that 80% of the goals he allowed were on chances that weren't high danger; the highest percentage in the top 10. Among the top-10 in high danger SV%, he had the 2nd lowest SV% in non high-danger chances and shots. Which kinda matches the eye test, and is a big part of the problem. Any advantage we might have gained from it was thrown away by letting in weak, deflating goals.
 
He wasn't first. Demko and Merzlikins (one of the goalies he faced - the other was 6th) were both ahead of him, and Andersen faced a pretty low quality of shooter. And you know what this means, right? It means that 80% of the goals he allowed were on chances that weren't high danger; the highest percentage in the top 10. Among the top-10 in high danger SV%, he had the 2nd lowest SV% in non high-danger chances and shots. Which kinda matches the eye test, and is a big part of the problem. Any advantage we might have gained from it was thrown away by letting in weak, deflating goals.

Only two goalies stopped pucks with greater overall efficiency than him during the play-ins, across all strengths.

Inserting your own little adjectives to describe the goals against like "weak" / "deflating / "back-breaking" is meaningless and only an attempt to denigrate.

Every goal against is worth the same on the scoreboard to each to team across the league.

And as you can see, there's been a whole lot more "weak", "deflating" goals scored against other goalies in the playoffs than there were against the Leafs, yet those teams still managed to win their actual playoff rounds and not get bounced in qualification.

Unless you find the Leafs so mentally weak that they literally cannot perform while playing from behind, then clearly there's bigger problems than just the goalie here :laugh:
 
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Only two goalies stopped pucks with greater overall efficiency than him during the play-ins, across all strengths.
That's also not true. Demko, Jarry, Merzlikins, Korpisalo, and Price were better, and some below him were better as well when quality of opportunities/shooting talent faced is considered.
And as you can see, there's been a whole lot more "weak", "deflating" goals scored against other goalies in the playoffs than there were against the Leafs, yet those teams still managed to win their actual playoff rounds
No, actually, there are other goalies that let in more goals on high danger opportunities, but Andersen has been pretty bad in terms of "weak", "deflating" goals league-wide in these playoffs. That's why 80% of the goals he allowed were in non high danger opportunities.
 
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That's also not true. Demko, Jarry, Merzlikins, Korpisalo, and Price were better, and some below him were better as well when quality of opportunities/shooting talent faced is considered.

No, actually, there are other goalies that let in more goals on high danger opportunities, but Andersen has been pretty bad in terms of "weak", "deflating" goals league-wide in these playoffs. That's why 80% of the goals he allowed were in non high danger opportunities.

People think we're blaming - we're not. It's just a reality of who Andersen was. Anaheim fans had the same issues with him. This isn't a Leaf fan problem, it's that Andersen needs to be on a very good defensive team to flourish. The Toronto market isn't the right place for him.
 
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That's also not true. Demko, Jarry, Merzlikins, Korpisalo, and Price were better, and some below him were better as well when quality of opportunities/shooting talent faced is considered.

No, actually, there are other goalies that let in more goals on high danger opportunities, but Andersen has been pretty bad in terms of "weak", "deflating" goals league-wide in these playoffs. That's why 80% of the goals he allowed were in non high danger opportunities.

A .938 save percentage for supposedly "normal" shots
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A .931 save percentage for supposedly "high danger" (more accurately described as close) shots.

Is plenty enough to win hockey games, let alone a play-in series...

Other teams have won multiple rounds with worse goaltending and the reason is because they were able to actually score goals of their own unlike the Leafs who got completely shutdown.
 
That's actually not as great as you probably think it is.

It's enough to get you into the Cup final since that's exactly what Khudobin has for supposedly "normal" saves (.938%) and he's done far worse than Andersen with the supposed "high danger" shots (.871%).

So again, just as many "back-breaking", "deflating", "weak" goals from a Cup finalist goaltender.

It was a cool excuse while it lasted though. :laugh:
 
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So again, just as many "back-breaking", "deflating", "weak" goals from a Cup finalist goaltender.
I mean, I don't know how many of his non high-danger were weak, but I do know quite a few of Andersen's were weak, and from low-quality shooters. Also, as already discussed, Khudobin didn't face off against 0.952 goaltending, and Dallas has had some good hot streaks in their secondary scoring, which have helped them get to where they are.
 
I mean, I don't know how many of his non high-danger were weak, but I do know quite a few of Andersen's were weak, and from low-quality shooters. Also, as already discussed, Khudobin didn't face off against 0.952 goaltending, and Dallas has had some good hot streaks in their secondary scoring, which have helped them get to where they are.
Khudobin let in 11 low danger goals on 264 shots, Andersen let in 5 on 81. The only goalies who let in low danger goals at a worse rate than Andersen are Stalock (1-3 in the postseason), Binnington (0-5), Greiss (2-2), Smith (0-1), and Bobrovsky (1-3). Giving them a very impressive combined record of 4-14
 
I mean, I don't know how many of his non high-danger were weak, but I do know quite a few of Andersen's were weak, and from low-quality shooters.

Actually watching hockey games instead of copy-and-pasting blog stats would definitely help with that.

As most of us know, what's considered low/medium/high "danger" on a blog stat site isn't anywhere close to what it was on the ice (reality).

Also, as already discussed, Khudobin didn't face off against 0.952 goaltending, and Dallas has had some good hot streaks in their secondary scoring, which have helped them get to where they are.

And the result is the Stars could score goals, win even through up-and-down goaltending, and punch their ticket to the Cup Final ...

And the Leafs lead the league in Excuses/60 and didn't qualify for the playoffs.
 
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So Dallas basically limited medium ranged shots and chances. I'm guessing the reasoning behind this is something like those medium ranged chances feature the most pre-shot movement, requiring the goalie to move around more.
 
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This hadn't even occurred to me. Spezza came her to compete and his former team is now in the Cup Finals. Granted, maybe it was more specifically to compete and win "with the Leafs" for him, but still.
 
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