OT: Around the NHL - Cat Scratch Fever

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[KareemTrustfund]

Scoring is too easy these days. Back in Malkin and Sids prime , it used to take SKILL and GUTS to put up points. Now defenceman can hit 70 points and it’s an afterthought. Now the JT Millers and other complete scrub lords hit 100 points by accident. It’s the 80s all over again.

Give me Evgeni Malkin’s CS run in 2009 over McDavid any day of the week. Mcdavid played with arguably the second or third best player in the league on his line. Malkin played with two grinders. And he still didn’t put up a better era adjusted total than Geno.

You know, McDavid is very lucky to start off his career when it did. Shrink the goalie gear in 17/18 and suddenly 50 new stars were born. I’m not blinded by these ridiculous point totals.
Malkin’s run was LEGENDARY and sure as hell isn’t surpassed by McDavid.

 

[BHD]

Someone should tell Yohe to log off. Dude is embarrassing himself on Twitter. McDavid had twenty(!) more points than Barkov - Florida's leading scorer. He was also the catalyst for the Oilers evening the series.

 

[NastyNick]

The Oilers really didn't belong in the finals. They got there, somehow, without playing Vegas or Colorado. Dallas, while very good, was beat up from having played actual teams in rounds 1 and 2. LA was a first round bye. Vancouver was the benefactor of a terrible division - which included Edmonton. I don't expect the Oilers to be back to the finals again. They achieved what they wanted - lots of stats and a Conn Smythe trophy. For the meat-gazing franchise, that is as good as a cup. I am a little surprised they got as close as they did though. Anything is possible i guess.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Someone should tell Yohe to log off. Dude is embarrassing himself on Twitter. McDavid had twenty(!) more points than Barkov - Florida's leading scorer. He was also the catalyst for the Oilers evening the series.

Bob would've been my choice, it's wild Forsling had more votes than him. Bob had 3 stinkers in the finals? McD also went pointless in 3 and was a non-factor in another. That's a wash as far as I'm concerned. McD won game 5? Bob won game 1. If it's splitsies, you award it to the winning team. But I mean, w/e.

I don't expect the Oilers to be back to the finals again

I mean, they probably will, given the reasons you listed. The Pacific is a cakewalk.

 

[Gurglesons]

Someone should tell Yohe to log off. Dude is embarrassing himself on Twitter. McDavid had twenty(!) more points than Barkov - Florida's leading scorer. He was also the catalyst for the Oilers evening the series.

It’s so weird how many Penguins fans can’t accept McDavid is doing Mario Lemieux level things and the conversation between Sid and him as comparable individual contributors is simply over.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Someone should tell Yohe to log off. Dude is embarrassing himself on Twitter. McDavid had twenty(!) more points than Barkov - Florida's leading scorer. He was also the catalyst for the Oilers evening the series.

You had me at "Someone should tell Yohe to log off."

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Yohe is a poopyhead.

 

[SomeDude]

Someone should tell Yohe to log off. Dude is embarrassing himself on Twitter. McDavid had twenty(!) more points than Barkov - Florida's leading scorer. He was also the catalyst for the Oilers evening the series.

You can’t deny the productivity and absurd numbers he put up. However, he was not the catalyst for the series comeback, though. Edmonton’s depth and role players finally stepped up and Skinner had the week of his life. Most of McDavid’s points came after the games were essentially already secured.

Regardless and as usual

 

[Gurglesons]

You can’t deny the productivity and absurd numbers he put up. However, he was not the catalyst for the series comeback, though. Edmonton’s depth and role players finally stepped up and Skinner had the week of his life. Most of McDavid’s points came after the games were essentially already secured.

Regardless and as usual

McDavid had 8 points in 2 games. How much more can you be "the catalyst"?

He disappeared in G6 and G7, but Penguins fans trying to level that against him and what Sid has done in his SCF appearances is bizarre, revisionist history.

 

[SomeDude]

McDavid had 8 points in 2 games. How much more can you be "the catalyst"?

He disappeared in G6 and G7, but Penguins fans trying to level that against him and what Sid has done in his SCF appearances is bizarre, revisionist history.

It is revisionist history to claim McDavid carried the Oilers to game 7. He played a part but it was fully a team effort.

 

[Gurglesons]

It is revisionist history to claim McDavid carried the Oilers to game 7. He played a part but it was fully a team effort.

I mean it's hockey. McDavid's SCF this year was more impressive then anything Sid has done in his career outside in a similar circumstance outside of the 2017 SCF.

We also seem to have forgotten Sid got blasted in his first SCF too. Way worse than McDavid did.

 

[SomeDude]

I mean it's hockey. McDavid's SCF this year was more impressive then anything Sid has done in his career outside in a similar circumstance outside of the 2017 SCF.

We also seem to have forgotten Sid got blasted in his first SCF too. Way worse than McDavid did.

Where have I compared him to Sid? You seem to be the one stuck on it.

 

[Gurglesons]

Where have I compared him to Sid? You seem to be the one stuck on it.

You were responding to Yohe's tweet which is obviously trying to find fault's in McDavid's historic performance.

I don't understand why we need to tear down what is literally a top 5 playoff run of all time from an individual contributor.

McDavid did everything he could to win.

 

[SomeDude]

You were responding to Yohe's tweet which is obviously trying to find fault's in McDavid's historic performance.

I don't understand why we need to tear down what is literally a top 5 playoff run of all time from an individual contributor.

McDavid did everything he could to win.

No, I was responding to @BHD post about McDavid being the catalyst to Edmonton’s comeback because I happen to disagree with that. I don’t give a rat’s ass what Josh Yohe thinks. I value Hair guy’s opinion equally to his.

I never said he shouldn’t win the Smythe. The numbers are absurd. I personally believe no player on a losing team should be eligible for the Smythe if they are swept or lose in 5 but obviously that didn’t happen so I don’t have issue with him winning it. I do find it funny he no showed game 6 and 7 though.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Someone should tell Yohe to log off. Dude is embarrassing himself on Twitter. McDavid had twenty(!) more points than Barkov - Florida's leading scorer. He was also the catalyst for the Oilers evening the series.

How can you be the MVP when you put up goose eggs in the 2 most important games of the season?
If McDavid even had an assist in 1 of those games, I guess I could see it if you squint hard enough.

But they need to change the definition of the trophy and just do an "Art Ross of the playoffs" if it's going to go the leader in points.

Bob was the MVP of the winning team. To me, that fits the definition of the the Conn Smythe vs leading point getter

 

[Gurglesons]

How can you be the MVP when you put up goose eggs in the 2 most important games of the season?
If McDavid even had an assist in 1 of those games, I guess I could see it if you squint hard enough.

But they need to change the definition of the trophy and just do an "Art Ross of the playoffs" if it's going to go the leader in points.

Bob was the MVP of the winning team. To me, that fits the definition of the the Conn Smythe vs leading point getter

Because it's about the entire playoffs. Not two games in the finals. He had 42 points and broke the assist record in the playoffs.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Because it's about the entire playoffs. Not two games in the finals. He had 42 points and broke the assist record in the playoffs.

That's a fair way to look at it even if I disagree with it.
You're not very valuable if you are invisible during the 2 most important games of the year. That's my opinion.

 

[Gurglesons]

That's a fair way to look at it even if I disagree with it.
You're not very valuable if you are invisible during the 2 most important games of the year. That's my opinion.

So who deserved it?

 

[BHD]

Because it's about the entire playoffs. Not two games in the finals. He had 42 points and broke the assist record in the playoffs.

This, and nobody on Florida was good for the entire playoffs. Maybe Barkov, but that's it.

 

[Gurglesons]

This, and nobody on Florida was good for the entire playoffs. Maybe Barkov, but that's it.

Florida ranking likely goes Barkov, Forsling, Bob.

 

[Turin]

It’s so weird how many Penguins fans can’t accept McDavid is doing Mario Lemieux level things and the conversation between Sid and him as comparable individual contributors is simply over.

It’s over

He had 2 big games, one where all his points came when it was already 3-1 his team

Crosby is finished

 

[SomeDude]

This, and nobody on Florida was good for the entire playoffs. Maybe Barkov, but that's it.

If they secured the sweep it would have been Bob. His numbers took a big hit in the next 3 games. No Panther fully standing out made it a pretty easy decision to give it to McDavid.

If you want to really get into the weeds about value, you could claim whoever’s job it was to shut down McDavid in the last 2 games played the biggest part in securing the Cup, but it seems to be a group effort again.

 

[Gurglesons]

It’s over

He had 2 big games, one where all his points came when it was already 3-1 his team

Crosby is finished

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It's more the fact that he's going to hit 1000 points potentially faster than any player not named Lemieux / Gretzky.

He has a better trophy case then Sid outside of the Cup.

And he has broken a Gretzky record in the playoffs.

 

[Turin]

It's more the fact that he's going to hit 1000 points potentially faster than any player not named Lemieux / Gretzky.

He has a better trophy case then Sid outside of the Cup.

And he has broken a Gretzky record in the playoffs.

That’s fine. He’s been healthier in a higher scoring era, good for him.