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I'd rather have the SC, you can have the President's trophy.


BS, since the Jets entered the league, 1 trophy winner won the cup and 12 did not.
There's more parity in the Cap era I think. Less restrictive free agency too. So there's not as big a talent gap between the #1 regular season team and the rest of the field. Compared to the 80s Oilers, 70s Habs, etc.
 
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Would you prefer third, or 8th, or 12th best?

This is something that has been discussed here before. You are saying Cup or bust and that's your choice. But it means that anything less and the season is a failure.

Only 1 of 32 teams gets that prize each year and each of those teams do not have an equal chance at it. We are one of the teams that will always have a lesser chance at the Cup than a group of 10-12 teams that will always have a better chance at it. So our odds might be something like 1 in 50, or 1 in 100.

We might have something like a 1 in 3 chance at the Presidents Trophy this year but still only 1 in 10 for the SC. And this might be our best chance in 50 years.

So you have to ask yourself if it is worth pursuing the PT. How much will resting some players affect our chances at either prize?
Where did I say it was cup or bust? I just don't think the president's trophy means that much.
 
The problem with Gibson is that he gets injured when he sneezes, apart from that he has been very meh this last few years to the point where Dostal was getting the net more frequently even when he was healthy.
His .916 sv% on one of the worst teams in the league is pretty meh?
 
You can't cherry pick one year look at the last 5 years, he was good a long time ago but yeah meh. As I said there's a reason Dostal gets the net more and more even when both are healthy. Also the Ducks are 6 back of a wild card spot hardly one of the leagues worst teams
 
You are working with a ridiculously small sample size.
I went back to the lockout and there were no president's trophy winners that won the cup. Are you happy now or would you like me to go further back?
So that has knocked it down to 5%. If you make the playoffs you have a six and a quarter percent chance of winning the cup.
 
I went back to the lockout and there were no president's trophy winners that won the cup. Are you happy now or would you like me to go further back?
So that has knocked it down to 5%. If you make the playoffs you have a six and a quarter percent chance of winning the cup.

Still a small sample but take a break. :laugh:
The Presidents Trophy is an accomplishment even if the winner of it never wins the SC.
And no, you do not have a 6.25% chance of winning the Cup if you make the PO. There is a hierarchy there stretching from 1 to 16.
 
Still a small sample but take a break. :laugh:
The Presidents Trophy is an accomplishment even if the winner of it never wins the SC.
And no, you do not have a 6.25% chance of winning the Cup if you make the PO. There is a hierarchy there stretching from 1 to 16.
I know you hate being wrong but I'm going to drop it because it is getting boring already. You remind me of an ex-wife I know.
 
I know you hate being wrong but I'm going to drop it because it is getting boring already. You remind me of an ex-wife I know.

How very passive aggressive of you. I had a wife like that too. :laugh:

The 6.25% thing is factual. The rest is opinion. .... But yours is wrong. :)
 
The problem of the validity of the President's trophy lies in the fact that it's not a level playing field, the schedules aren't balanced. A true contender in weak division has a better chance of winning it.
 
I went back to the lockout and there were no president's trophy winners that won the cup. Are you happy now or would you like me to go further back?
So that has knocked it down to 5%. If you make the playoffs you have a six and a quarter percent chance of winning the cup.
Even if you just go back to the 2012 lockout, the presidents' trophy winning Blackhawks won the 2013 Stanley Cup.
 
The problem of the validity of the President's trophy lies in the fact that it's not a level playing field, the schedules aren't balanced. A true contender in weak division has a better chance of winning it.
That's a very valid point
 

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