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voyageur

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Someone called me an idiot for suggesting Barron might be waived this season. They just traded him for the worst performing D-man on the worst team in the league.

Carrier isn't normally that bad of a D-man, but that is really funny.
Barron is now the #1 RD in Nashville?
 

ERYX

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Oct 25, 2014
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Looks like Wheeler is hanging up his skates, and also gave some interesting insight into his struggles as captain of the Jets which I hope might give people a little more compassion for him:


Panic attacks before games, anxiety over his role on a team failing to meet expectations – it was all eating him up during the 2021-22 season, his second-last with the Jets.

The following summer, Wheeler set his ego aside and took some steps to becoming a better captain, a less in-your-face one, reaching out to players to ask how he could more effectively lead them.

With the help of a professional leadership coach, he transformed how he was going to help take the Jets to the next level.

“I’m on a really good trajectory,” is how Wheeler put it. “And then the rug gets pulled (from) underneath. ‘Oh, by the way, you’re not the captain anymore.’ “My first instinct was to take the bait of being the victim: ‘I just got screwed." (he goes on later in the podcast to talk about how he resisted that first instinct)

My takeaway from the article as a whole: Wheeler never lacked for passion or GAF. He was/is a solid dude who's just too "old school" in his leadership approach for today's younger players. He's more a victim of societal changes than being a bad guy or even a bad leader. 20 years ago he'd be a Messier-level stud.
 
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Stumbledore

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Looks like Wheeler is hanging up his skates, and also gave some interesting insight into his struggles as captain of the Jets which I hope might give people a little more compassion for him:




My takeaway from the article as a whole: Wheeler never lacked for passion or GAF. He was/is a solid dude who's just too "old school" in his leadership approach for today's younger players. He's more a victim of societal changes than being a bad guy or even a bad leader. 20 years ago he'd be a Messier-level stud.
Couldn't agree more.
 

KingBogo

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Nov 29, 2011
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Looks like Wheeler is hanging up his skates, and also gave some interesting insight into his struggles as captain of the Jets which I hope might give people a little more compassion for him:




My takeaway from the article as a whole: Wheeler never lacked for passion or GAF. He was/is a solid dude who's just too "old school" in his leadership approach for today's younger players. He's more a victim of societal changes than being a bad guy or even a bad leader. 20 years ago he'd be a Messier-level stud.
I've always been a Wheeler fan. A lot of the treatment he got around here was pure bull shit. IMO he is still one of the most impactful Jets 2.0 players.
 

The Blue Baron

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Re: Mr Wheeler,

I’ll first one of the first to say I was tough on Wheezer those last two years but there were a few games he was not passing the eye ball test, especially on the half wall PP.

No one Drove to the net with the puck like Wheeler.

He is undoubtedly the best Jet player 2.0 thus far. His Jersey proudly still hangs in my basement.

I was not a massive fan of him being named captain in the first place as thought he was better suited as a point gathering machine than a leader. That being said he cared for the club immensely and that is all you can ask for.

You know True North will role out the Golden carpet for him in time. Love ya Blake!
 

Gm0ney

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Oct 12, 2011
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I've always been a Wheeler fan. A lot of the treatment he got around here was pure bull shit. IMO he is still one of the most impactful Jets 2.0 players.
In the video above he talks about how tough it was getting stripped of the captaincy and then sticking around for a lame duck season. That's Chevy's (and Chippy's) fault for not moving him. Would've been a lot less humiliation than whatever was being said about him around here...
 

The Blue Baron

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Wheeler was one of our best players for many years, the last couple were tough but he did alot of good things while here in his prime. The way he would take the puck to the net just flying down the wing was something to watch. And he had some great gifs .....:laugh:

Hells yes!


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Huffer

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Wheeler was an absolute Warrior for the Jets and was an elite winger for his tenure here that he doesn't get enough credit for around the league.

Looking back, and seeing the interview, his leadership issue was likely that he cared too much, was too passionate, and was an old school guy himself and didn't have the leadership training to know that you have to look at each individual in your group and your group overall to know how to effectively lead. IOW, not everyone will respond to the same things.

It's possible he (and the team), might have been happier and it might have worked out better if he was more of a 2nd lieutenant on the team, with a strong but personable Captain. That way he wouldn't have to take on the Captain role, but could be the rah rah, let's go guys, motivational type.
 

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I am not sure if Friesen was trying to spin that Wheeler was wronged somehow, or not, but what is clear from the article is that taking away the C was 100% the correct call.

Wheeler in his prime driving to the net was a treat to watch. We used to make fun of how gassed he was at the end of shifts, but it's safe to say a big reason was he gave it 100% all the time.
 

Mortimer Snerd

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Looks like Wheeler is hanging up his skates, and also gave some interesting insight into his struggles as captain of the Jets which I hope might give people a little more compassion for him:




My takeaway from the article as a whole: Wheeler never lacked for passion or GAF. He was/is a solid dude who's just too "old school" in his leadership approach for today's younger players. He's more a victim of societal changes than being a bad guy or even a bad leader. 20 years ago he'd be a Messier-level stud.

Still the 2nd greatest 2.0 Jets player, after Buff, who never had to carry the weight of the C. Some current players will almost certainly pass him on that list before their careers are over but that doesn't diminish Wheeler.

He had good moments and bad ones as captain. I prefer to remember him as the guy who captained a team to the WCF. I'm not forgetting that his leadership style was part of the problem at the end but it was never due to a lack of caring or effort on his part.
 

Mortimer Snerd

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I am not sure if Friesen was trying to spin that Wheeler was wronged somehow, or not, but what is clear from the article is that taking away the C was 100% the correct call.

Wheeler in his prime driving to the net was a treat to watch. We used to make fun of how gassed he was at the end of shifts, but it's safe to say a big reason was he gave it 100% all the time.

Except that that ignores the effort he was making to be a better leader. That said though, I agree that it had to be done. His growth as a leader might have worked, or not. It was too little too late though. The team couldn't risk it not working. Maybe if he had taken those steps a year or two earlier it would have worked. Who knows?
 

WolfHouse

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Barron is now the #1 RD in Nashville?
For all of the distress I have about Stan and Ville.... it is dwarfed by Nashville - locked in with horrible vet contracts, ditching prospects and denying that a rebuild is a possibility...

35 year old Nyqist played the most minutes for them in the last game... followed closely by 34 year old Stamkos... they are locked into a garbage core for 7 more years essentially
 

Gm0ney

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For all of the distress I have about Stan and Ville.... it is dwarfed by Nashville - locked in with horrible vet contracts, ditching prospects and denying that a rebuild is a possibility...

35 year old Nyqist played the most minutes for them in the last game... followed closely by 34 year old Stamkos... they are locked into a garbage core for 7 more years essentially
Trotz has already made as many mistakes in a couple of seasons as Poile made in 25. :laugh:
 

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