Around the NHL 2024/25

[voyageur]

Early hockey from Tampere again today, be nice for the Panthers to do us another solid.

2 straight losses in Finland for the Stars. They get 4 days off now, come home to play Chicago then on the road against us next Saturday.

Jets play Lightning then 3 straight against the Central on the home stand. 3-0 vs Central this season.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

Leafs trying to play tough.

Edmonton missing Broberg?

 

[JetsFan815]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853614270061388105

 

[surixon]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853614270061388105

I like Chisholm but he has one assist playing 13 minutes a game. I'm sure he's doing well in a sheltered bottom pairing role but the fact that model somehow thinks he's a top pairing player is a pretty big indictment of the model.

 

[Thechozen1]

Preds and Oilers both lose by identical 3 - 0 scores.

 

[bumblebeeman]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1853614270061388105

What's sG?

 

[Buffdog]

I like Chisholm but he has one assist playing 13 minutes a game. I'm sure he's doing well in a sheltered bottom pairing role but the fact that model somehow thinks he's a top pairing player is a pretty big indictment of the model.

But.... but... but....

The numbers and pretty graphs say the thing! THE THING!!!!!!

 

[Buffdog]

What's sG?

It's a bullshit model

We're 11-1. The "we'd be better off if X" argument left the building a LONG time ago, with tweener waiver fodder Dmen AND our top line. Some people still look for any shred of evidence to backup their opinion that they're smarter than TNSE coaching and management

 

[Aggie204]

It's a bullshit model

We're 11-1. The "we'd be better off if X" argument left the building a LONG time ago, with tweener waiver fodder Dmen AND our top line. Some people still look for any shred of evidence to backup their opinion that they're smarter than TNSE coaching and management

The TSN power rankings dropped the Jets to 2nd place. Their reasoning, they used analytics and found that the Canes deserved the top spot over wins. It was so funny, anything to deny the Jets their due respect. TSN is a joke.

 

[DeepFrickinValue]

The TSN power rankings dropped the Jets to 2nd place. Their reasoning, they used analytics and found that the Canes deserved the top spot over wins. It was so funny, anything to deny the Jets their due respect. TSN is a joke.

Honestly, you lose to the leafs you don’t deserve top spot.

 

[Aggie204]

Honestly, you lose to the leafs you don’t deserve top spot.

The Canes lost to the Bolts and Blues, the team who took the top spot. You think the Canes are objectively better?

 

[WolfgangPuck]

If we can keep this winning percentage then we’ll finish 74-7 which is unrealistic but that is what mathematically we are on pace for.

 

[AussieBomberJet]

Bloody Wild

Why can't they be shitty like they usually have for thevlast few years!!

 

[WolfgangPuck]

2 straight losses in Finland for the Stars. They get 4 days off now, come home to play Chicago then on the road against us next Saturday.

Jets play Lightning then 3 straight against the Central on the home stand. 3-0 vs Central this season.

Interesting to see if Stars recover from Jet lag before meeting the Jets.
Remember the glory days when Jets had fantastic Finnish players and travel to Finland to play the Panthers
Billed as Laine vs Barkov.

 

[JetsFan815]

I like Chisholm but he has one assist playing 13 minutes a game. I'm sure he's doing well in a sheltered bottom pairing role but the fact that model somehow thinks he's a top pairing player is a pretty big indictment of the model.

I think that person's point was how low the guys the Jets kept were in particular Stan. Chisholm I agree is too early to say but with Kovacevic, he has played significant minutes in a bottom and middle pairing role with the Habs, and now in a top and 2nd pairing role withe NJ. So with him it is hard to ignore his results.

What's sG?

It is HockeyViz/Micah Blake's catch all metric for player performance sG: Synthetic Goals

 

[Daximus]

The Canes lost to the Bolts and Blues, the team who took the top spot. You think the Canes are objectively better?

Canes likely have a lot better underlying stats right now. Level of competition, expected goals for and against and PDO probably play a big factor in that. Our pace of play is obviously unsustainable. I mean we aren't going to go 75-7 that much is for sure.

We should just enjoy the ride right now because we will lose a few in a row at some point here. Don't worry about what everyone else is saying. We are never going to get our due from the media so give up on ever getting it.

 

[ps241]

Canes likely have a lot better underlying stats right now. Level of competition, expected goals for and against and PDO probably play a big factor in that. Our pace of play is obviously unsustainable. I mean we aren't going to go 75-7 that much is for sure.

We should just enjoy the ride right now because we will lose a few in a row at some point here. Don't worry about what everyone else is saying. We are never going to get our due from the media so give up on ever getting it.

It makes me uncomfortable when we get love from outsiders. I prefer to go unnoticed while larger more deserving markets (ratings wise) get gushed on and over analyzed for both better and worse.

It’s all noise anyways so when the dial is turned down to zero I find it most peaceful.

 

[Daximus]

It makes me uncomfortable when we get love from outsiders. I prefer to go unnoticed while larger more deserving markets (ratings wise) get gushed on and over analyzed for both better and worse.

It’s all noise anyways so when the dial is turned down to zero I find it most peaceful.

100%

I was loving the lack of attention our hot start was getting. It really only started to build when we were up against the Leafs. The schedule starts getting more competitive in short order here. Utah, Colorado, Dallas, NYR, Tampa and Florida twice.

If we are still winning at a blistering pace then the noise around the team will get crazy but I think we likely take 3 or 4 of the 7 at most and our record starts coming back down to earth and the media can go back to ignoring us.

 

[Jets 31]

I think that person's point was how low the guys the Jets kept were in particular Stan. Chisholm I agree is too early to say but with Kovacevic, he has played significant minutes in a bottom and middle pairing role with the Habs, and now in a top and 2nd pairing role withe NJ. So with him it is hard to ignore his results.



It is HockeyViz/Micah Blake's catch all metric for player performance sG: Synthetic Goals

If we were 1-11 right now i might care about losing Kovacevic but we are 11-1 and we have Fleury and Heinola sitting as extras and the little Fleury played i liked his game.

 

[GJF]

100%

I was loving the lack of attention our hot start was getting. It really only started to build when we were up against the Leafs. The schedule starts getting more competitive in short order here. Utah, Colorado, Dallas, NYR, Tampa and Florida twice.

If we are still winning at a blistering pace then the noise around the team will get crazy but I think we likely take 3 or 4 of the 7 at most and our record starts coming back down to earth and the media can go back to ignoring us.

My thoughts this morning!

Since we're 7-0, I keep on going to the main board because I am curious about "so... when does the obligatory and at some point unavoidable "Jets something something legit?" or "Coming to burn down your village" pop up. We're 11-1 and nothing. NOTHING imagine the Leafs would go 11-1

But I love it. Keep on ignoring us playing like that, the longer it keeps on going, the better.

If we were 1-11 right now i might care about losing Kovacevic but we are 11-1 and we have Fleury and Heinola sitting as extras and the little Fleury played i liked his game.

This is the part that I don't get from the Kovacevic and Chisholm supports camp. Who cares? I'd understand it if we'd lack defenseman or would have a problem with our d-corp but we're coming off a #1 defensive team of the leage regular season and are 11-1 to start the following season with Fleury and Heinola not even getting into the team. Why would we care about freaking Kovacevic or Chisholm? Great for them if they found their place in the league. But what does it matter to us?

 

[ps241]

100%

I was loving the lack of attention our hot start was getting. It really only started to build when we were up against the Leafs. The schedule starts getting more competitive in short order here. Utah, Colorado, Dallas, NYR, Tampa and Florida twice.

If we are still winning at a blistering pace then the noise around the team will get crazy but I think we likely take 3 or 4 of the 7 at most and our record starts coming back down to earth and the media can go back to ignoring us.

I looked at our November schedule and felt if we could fetch 17 or 18 points (6 in 5 pace) it would be a big month. That would largely consolidate the cushion we have built.

 

[Daximus]

I looked at our November schedule and felt if we could fetch 17 or 18 points (6 in 5 pace) it would be a big month. That would largely consolidate the cushion we have built.

We got 4 points already. So going 7 for the remaining 12 would be nice and certainly doable. I feel like Dallas, NYR, Florida, Minny and Vegas will be our tougher games. That's 6 of our games right there.

Anymore than that and we should be looking at a pretty good lead to sit on.

 

[Daximus]

My thoughts this morning!

Since we're 7-0, I keep on going to the main board because I am curious about "so... when does the obligatory and at some point unavoidable "Jets something something legit?" or "Coming to burn down your village" pop up. We're 11-1 and nothing. NOTHING imagine the Leafs would go 11-1

But I love it. Keep on ignoring us playing like that, the longer it keeps on going, the better.

We've been mostly avoiding the main boards overreaction posts that a lot of the bigger fanbases always post. A player on the Leafs passes gas and it gets 2 mainboard threads, makes front page on TSN, Sportsnet, TheScore and HockeyNews. But that's just the nature of the business. There's probably a 10:1 ratio of Leafs vs. Jets fans at minimum and clicks drive revenue. So if a Leaf player, coach or equipment manager changes the look on their face in a given moment all you need to do is post about it and the Leafs faithful floods your ad revenue.

 

[Jet]

My thoughts this morning!

Since we're 7-0, I keep on going to the main board because I am curious about "so... when does the obligatory and at some point unavoidable "Jets something something legit?" or "Coming to burn down your village" pop up. We're 11-1 and nothing. NOTHING imagine the Leafs would go 11-1

But I love it. Keep on ignoring us playing like that, the longer it keeps on going, the better.



This is the part that I don't get from the Kovacevic and Chisholm supports camp. Who cares? I'd understand it if we'd lack defenseman or would have a problem with our d-corp but we're coming off a #1 defensive team of the leage regular season and are 11-1 to start the following season with Fleury and Heinola not even getting into the team. Why would we care about freaking Kovacevic or Chisholm? Great for them if they found their place in the league. But what does it matter to us?

PREACH!

 

[surixon]

I think that person's point was how low the guys the Jets kept were in particular Stan. Chisholm I agree is too early to say but with Kovacevic, he has played significant minutes in a bottom and middle pairing role with the Habs, and now in a top and 2nd pairing role withe NJ. So with him it is hard to ignore his results.



It is HockeyViz/Micah Blake's catch all metric for player performance sG: Synthetic Goals

I'm definitely haply for both players and wanted to keep them. I just think these models are so flawed.

I mean how can you rate a dmen close to the top in dmen scoring while beating his much tougher matchups as a below replacement level player? It just doesn't pass the sniff test to me.