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Around the NHL 2024-25 regular season Part II

Guadana said:
First one should be Kadri.
Second one I don’t know who he is. Is he ended his career? 76 games in the last season is more than any player could play this season for now.
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Correct on Kadri, the other is Perron

These guys are 34 and 36 years old and are still producing good numbers. Very consistent over their careers
 
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NjDevsRR said:
Correct on Kadri, the other is Perron

These guys are 34 and 36 years old and are still producing good numbers. Very consistent over their careers
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Yeah, Perron is very consistent. Like a clock tower.

Kadri is some kind of popular in rus community because he is playing in Calgary and a lot of our fellows Belorussians fans are watching Yegor and young player Yegor Sidorov who is playing in the system(he is from Belorussia too). So Kadri is popular person to argue about as potential player for the trade because of his style of play, his role and his deal that should prevent from expensive price.
 
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I was so happy when we traded for him and when he signed that longterm deal. Guy was an animal during the 2012 Cup run. I still think there is more to the whole retirement thing and his contract getting squashed. Maybe it had to do with the team being up for sale and them trying to entice a new owner.

Regardless, Kovalchuk was similar to Ovechkin and was just a monster on skates. Power , speed , finesse , the elite shot and also great play making ability. He really had it all. No one would dare pick a fight with that man like how Schenn tried to do before he got pummeled. I love how he embraced Lemaire and committed to being a better defensive player. The Devils kind of changed the penalty killing game under Lemaire and Deboer with Kovalchuk being out there. I dont remember teams ever using players like that not known to really play hard defensively. It shows the importance of how big coaching and players developing later in their career can be.
 
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That 2012 run was the most fun I've had as a Devils fan in the last 20 years, so I will always have a soft spot for Kovy (and most of the guys on that team really). Yeah the end was messy, but him leaving when he did was probably better for the team in the long run, and the whole contract fiasco wasn't really his fault anyway.
 
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StevenToddIves said:
Hey, well.. I've been a bit busy lately but what the heck is going on with our website here? Did the interweb demons decide to destroy us all?
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The site decided that Bratt being good + Nemec scoring would break our sub so it just destroyed the whole site for a couple of hours

MadDevil said:
That 2012 run was the most fun I've had as a Devils fan in the last 20 years, so I will always have a soft spot for Kovy (and most of the guys on that team really). Yeah the end was messy, but him leaving when he did was probably better for the team in the long run, and the whole contract fiasco wasn't really his fault anyway.
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Agreed here, we win in 2012 and I don't think anyone would care what Kovy did. I think we'd be slightly annoyed at Parise for leaving still.

All in all, he's still my 4th favorite Devil behind Jack, Marty and Patty. Younger fan, who started watching them in 08' so guys like Stevens and Dano wouldn't be able to be up there for me lol
 
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There was actually a two or three year period where it felt like Kovalchuk was effectively retired. He was even the GM of Team Russia during the 2022 Olympics and didn’t even play for the team. Then he came back for a year last season I think?

And yeah, for some reason as much as I couldn’t stand him after what he did in 2013, I feel like I still have more long term bad feelings with Parise. I think Zach was a phoney and I’m even glad he went out with no cup and that 2012 was the longest playoff run he ever went on. He never even made the conference finals again or before that. I said I wouldn’t care if he got a cup last year, but I’m kind of glad he didn’t. f*** him.

I’m also glad he’s not one bit affiliated with the team or in any kind of alumni role, and that he’s not involved with the team in any capacity. Even to the level of Cory and Brian Boyle or how Gomez has been at times since his playing days ended. I’m glad he’s never publicly wore the Devils jersey or any memorabilia since he left here. And I’m glad he never played here again like Gomez and Holík, who had a redemption arc after being turncoats to the Rangers.

f*** him.
 
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Kovy will always be okay by me. His was the first sweater I bought for my daughter before she was a teenager. I think what Parise did is far worse. The whole "don't worry" bit with fans while he was plotting with his friend to land in Minnesota.

It's too bad about 2012. One bounce in OT and I think we win the Cup that year, maybe if we didn't take the 5 minute major too. Definitely if Kovy is 100% healthy.
 
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Satans Hockey said:
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Time to update my anti-Gold Plan text file.

Every year on the main boards, somebody suggests the Gold Plan as a solution for tanking but they don't really do a deep dive. Essentially the Gold Plan would assign draft spots based on the number of points accrued after a team was eliminated from playoff contention. On the surface, it seems like a decent idea, except it ends up being random since there aren't that many games left.

Last year's order if determined by the Gold Plan:

1. Chicago (actual #2)
2. Arizona (#6)
3. Anaheim (#3)
4. Calgary (#9)
5. Columbus (#4)
6. San Jose (#1)
7. Ottawa (#7)
8. Seattle (#8)
9. Montreal (#5)
10. Buffalo (#11)
11. Minnesota (#13)
12. St. Louis (#16)
13. New Jersey (#10)
14. Philadelphia (#12)
15. Pittsburgh (#14)
16. Detroit (#15)

Some inherent problems: Teams in different conferences could be eliminated on the same day late in the season but have a differing number of games remaining. Minnesota and New Jersey were both eliminated April 10th last season, but the Wild had four games remaining and we only had three. So we'd drop three spots due to the randomness of 3-4 games.

If you're a selling team, do you hang onto a veteran if he doesn't command a premium return at the trade deadline? Like if you were Ottawa, do you trade Vladimir Tarasenko for a couple 3rd round picks or keep him to try to improve your draft slot? Obviously Tarasenko would prefer a chance at a Cup versus helping Ottawa get a prospect that he'd never play with.

If I'm counting on my fingers correctly, only 9 of the 20 guys the Blackhawks used in last year's season finale are still with the team. A higher draft pick isn't exactly a huge incentive for guys like Seth Jones or Taylor Hall. [/rant]
 
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PizzaAndPucks said:
I was so happy when we traded for him and when he signed that longterm deal. Guy was an animal during the 2012 Cup run. I still think there is more to the whole retirement thing and his contract getting squashed. Maybe it had to do with the team being up for sale and them trying to entice a new owner.

Regardless, Kovalchuk was similar to Ovechkin and was just a monster on skates. Power , speed , finesse , the elite shot and also great play making ability. He really had it all. No one would dare pick a fight with that man like how Schenn tried to do before he got pummeled. I love how he embraced Lemaire and committed to being a better defensive player. The Devils kind of changed the penalty killing game under Lemaire and Deboer with Kovalchuk being out there. I dont remember teams ever using players like that not known to really play hard defensively. It shows the importance of how big coaching and players developing later in their career can be.
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i totally agree with a lot of this stuff you said.

i fully believe kovy knew he was hurt or something like that and "retired" to get the devils off the hook and then he was free to go back home and play or something along those lines but it def wasn't a see ya i want to retire out of the blue.

absolute great comparison with ovie and its funny because what happened to ilya was what people thought would happen to alex and its amazing it hasn't but sometimes a freak of nature just can't be stopped.

i'm a kovy supporter i wish he would get better recognition by the fans i'll even say he is the most skilled player the devils have ever had. jack is close but he's not really that close
 
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Satans Hockey said:
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that seems pretty late in the year for them to be the first. would've figured someone would be out already go figure.


personally i think the lotto system is fine teams that miss should still have a shot at it. one thing that should be fixed is that the order for playoff teams should lock once the playoffs start. its stupid if a team wins the cup as the 16th making the playoffs on the last day they then end up picking last in the draft?
 
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