NoNecksCurse
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Leafs losing last night actually broke the HFboards.
Never change, HF.
Never change, HF.
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That's the scary part if you are a Toronto fan, it's not like their 1st line got shut down by Bergeron's line, or MacKinnon, or even Barkov. Heck if it wasn't for Spezza and Nylander that series would have been even uglier.I watched that Game 7, and there is no doubt in my mind that hockey is a good notch below what was going on in our division. Those teams would have been absolutely manhandled by TB, Carolina, Colorado types of teams.
And I have to admit... Shea really does look about done. They still played him a lot of minutes, but it was fairly painful to watch him.
Predsanddead24
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They were without Tavares almost all series and Muzzin for Game 7. Still doesn't excuse blowing a 3-1 lead to a team that most likely doesn't make the playoffs in a normal year.
NoNecksCurse
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Montreal isn’t a very good hockey team. I have seen nothing from Montreal to change my mind.
This was an epic collapse by Toronto.
Porter Stoutheart
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I was browsing the trade forum thread about the Canucks. If Jim Benning is going to be aggressive about improving his team... well they sure have Expansion protection room, both at F and D... I would be happy to send them Duchene and Ellis, say. Ellis is good, Duchene... might be. Cap-wise if we had to take the remaining year on Louie Eriksson or Jay Beagle or something like that and just bury those players, I don't think that should be an issue for us. We can take those contracts if we are moving Duchene and Ellis... and getting some good draft picks back. 
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I was browsing the trade forum thread about the Canucks. If Jim Benning is going to be aggressive about improving his team... well they sure have Expansion protection room, both at F and D... I would be happy to send them Duchene and Ellis, say. Ellis is good, Duchene... might be. Cap-wise if we had to take the remaining year on Louie Eriksson or Jay Beagle or something like that and just bury those players, I don't think that should be an issue for us. We can take those contracts if we are moving Duchene and Ellis... and getting some good draft picks back.
Your argument makes no sense from a logic exercise. If Ellis and Duchene are worthless, why would Vancouver give us"good draft picks" and take back more salary than we would be taking from them??
Duchene isnt worthless he is just massively overpaid. It matters if we need the cap space but we probably dont. So just suck it up and hope he can find some semblance of his former self playing with Joey and FF next year.
Porter Stoutheart
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Wait, is my argument that Duchene and Ellis are "worthless"??? Where does that come from???
I didn't even really make an "argument", but if you asked me I would say Duchene is worthless. From a trade value perspective. So he's a big salary, but stuck to a player who is fast and skilled and maybe "for free" a desperate team would take him. Maybe not. But I definitely do not make that argument about Ellis. To me, he is worth a 1st round pick + something.
So my proposal here is maybe Vancouver is that team which is desperate enough to cast their lot in with Duchene. In which case we take Eriksson/Beagle contracts back just as a way to trim 4 years off Duchene's cap hit. And they give us picks... for Ellis, basically.
But I'm sure if you posted this on any main board, Vancouver fans would all be, ewwwww, no way, those guys suck, or something like that.
We're going to have Duchene for the next 5 years, for better or worse, that is my firm belief.
Viqsi
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Pfft, no. Winnipeg isn't going to beat the winner of the Pacific regardless. I can't abide Montreal for most of the fan nonsense and "whatever" on Weber (sure thanks for the memories but also f*** off for the offer sheet on the heels of Sutter leaving that is still looming over our heads).
Bringer of Jollity
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Oh noes, Carolina loses both at home to go down 2-0. So anyway...
AnalogKid
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Habs also have Corey Perry so no. I couldn't cheer for team with him on it and still be able to look at myself in the mirror in the morning.
Viqsi
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Wasn't that offer sheet from Philadelphia? Or is this a different offer sheet that I don't remember?
Porter Stoutheart
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Yeah, the OS was by Philly. I guess the debate for a while has been centered on us thinking that the NHL wouldn't be so petty and retroactive as to penalize us for a contract that another team drew up at a time when we were vulnerable, whereas of course the rest of HFThink likes to say The Rules Is The Rules and You Will Get Burned Regardless. Habs fans in particular who think we should give up the moon to trade for Weber to somehow avoid any Cap recapture penalty. It is an ongoing Thing with Habs fans.
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Viqsi
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Oh, believe me, I've seen it in action. They all go on The List.
Porter Stoutheart
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Do you get a List as a mod? I guess as Global you don't, but staying blue might be the way to go...
Viqsi
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shh, don't tell any of the dark bluesDo you get a List as a mod? I guess as Global you don't, but staying blue might be the way to go...
Legionnaire11
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With the lottery and first round complete, do we know where the Predators are picking in the draft?
I believe 17th since Arizona forfeits their pick and Montreal beat Toronto.
Bringer of Jollity
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Is my timeline off? I'm remembering that as the same summer Suter left for some reason.
Mass
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When you have Corey Perry stunned you know you’ve done something really stupid.
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