Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[NyQuil]

Not sure if you're memeing or not but Matthews had 4 goals which is a little more impressive

He did lose the game when he let his man Turris score the game winner in OT.

So far Demidov has the winning result.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I'd be upset that we didn't finish below Montreal in 2024 but our braindead scouts would have 100% passed up on Demidov.

 

[NyQuil]

Not if Reinbacher becomes top 2. He's got the talent but we'll see

I’m not worried about Reinbacher.

That was a blown pick.

 

[PlayOn]

I'd be upset that we didn't finish below Montreal in 2024 but our braindead scouts would have 100% passed up on Demidov.

It’s disappointing that we still have no scouts based in Russia too. It’s the best way to get a steal in the draft these days.

 

[PlayOn]

Yeah they really blew that one.

He wanted to go to Philly, Friedman reported on it. Sounds like he basically forced his way there.

 

[windycity]

I’m not worried about Reinbacher.

That was a blown pick.

Like I said, we'll see

 

[NyQuil]

He wanted to go to Philly, Friedman reported on it. Sounds like he basically forced his way there.

So you pick him and trade him.

Gretzky said he’d never play for SSM and they picked him anyway and he did.

 

[Hale The Villain]

We'd be there right with them if we drafted that high lmao

Oh absolutely. No chance we'd take Demidov over Lindstrom.

 

[Sensrule]

Foligno's still in the league eh?

 

[Wallet Inspector]

It’s disappointing that we still have no scouts based in Russia too. It’s the best way to get a steal in the draft these days.

IIRC Staois apparently said that the location of a prospect doesn't matter for our scouts, but i dunno.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I need to know all the players we had over Canfield and demidov

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I'd be upset that we didn't finish below Montreal in 2024 but our braindead scouts would have 100% passed up on Demidov.

Iginla was most likely who we would have picked.

 

[JD1]

It will be interesting to see what happens over the long term with Mtl, that top line has been getting a lot of praise, but is it sustainable?

GF% is running at 61% for Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield, but xGF% is 48.1%. so

To put that into perspective, that xGF% is 66th out of the top 78 lines in TOI (200+ mins), but 24th in GF%. The Detla between expected and actual is 13.2 above expected, so maybe they are talented guys, perhaps but Hyman-Draisaitl-Mcdavid are +3.9, Knies-Matthews-Marner are +1.6, Lehkonen-Mackinnon-Rantanen were +1.8. That got me interested so I checked the correlation on individuals year over year for beating their xGF and there is very little correlation from one year to the next, and what little there is would likely be attributable to goaltending quality.

Long story short, I think that line is likely to regress, which probably shouldn't surprise anyone. They are still pretty talented offensive players, so they'll continue to be effective, but they simply aren't likely to be among the best lines in hockey over the long term. .

Don't tell @Xspyrit

 

[Senscore]

I’m not worried about Reinbacher.

That was a blown pick.

Blown pick and a blown knee.

Unfortunate combo

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I need to know all the players we had over Canfield and demidov

Sort Craig Button's Top 30 list by PIM.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

It will be interesting to see what happens over the long term with Mtl, that top line has been getting a lot of praise, but is it sustainable?

GF% is running at 61% for Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield, but xGF% is 48.1%. so

To put that into perspective, that xGF% is 66th out of the top 78 lines in TOI (200+ mins), but 24th in GF%. The Detla between expected and actual is 13.2 above expected, so maybe they are talented guys, perhaps but Hyman-Draisaitl-Mcdavid are +3.9, Knies-Matthews-Marner are +1.6, Lehkonen-Mackinnon-Rantanen were +1.8. That got me interested so I checked the correlation on individuals year over year for beating their xGF and there is very little correlation from one year to the next, and what little there is would likely be attributable to goaltending quality.

Long story short, I think that line is likely to regress, which probably shouldn't surprise anyone. They are still pretty talented offensive players, so they'll continue to be effective, but they simply aren't likely to be among the best lines in hockey over the long term. .

See it. But that line has an elite passer and a top….5? Shooter in the NhL? I think they will always out kick their expected goals

 

[PlayOn]

IIRC Staois apparently said that the location of a prospect doesn't matter for our scouts, but i dunno.

He was actually asked if it was true we wouldn’t draft a Russian and said they don’t pick based on nationality.

But that was a bad question because we drafted Sokolov and would draft a Russian playing in the CHL for example. The question of whether we would draft someone playing in Russia has not been asked nor answered. But it’s kind of hard to do that when you don’t have scouts based there so I’m gonna assume we wouldn’t until proven otherwise.

 

[Ouroboros]

IIRC Staois apparently said that the location of a prospect doesn't matter for our scouts, but i dunno.

It was Don Boyd who said this when asked, but what's the alternative? Say 'no we won't take Demidov because we've never seen him play due to our scouting budget being so small'?

Corey Pronman - who, whether you like him or not, is plugged into the scouting world - has made many allusions to Ottawa not taking Russians in the draft due to not having viewings of them. It's a known fact that the Sens have no scouting coverage in that part of the world.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

He was actually asked if it was true we wouldn’t draft a Russian and said they don’t pick based on nationality.

But that was a bad question because we drafted Sokolov and would draft a Russian playing in the CHL for example. The question of whether we would draft someone playing in Russia has not been asked nor answered. But it’s kind of hard to do that when you don’t have scouts based there so I’m gonna assume we wouldn’t until proven otherwise.

Our scouts are not drafting a Russian known for his elite stickhandling and play driving that is under 6’2

 

[Xspyrit]

Hes their Stutzle.

They already have Suzuki who matches Stu, a bit better at the moment. He's their Batherson but obviously going to be much more impactful

Stutzle vs Suzuki
Tkachuk vs Slafkovsky
Batherson vs Demidov
Zetterlund vs Caufield
Cozens vs Dach
Pinto vs Hage
Greig vs Beck
Halliday vs Newhook

Let's hope that Slaf doesn't develop too much and becomes jealous of Demidov

We really need Stutzle and Cozens to go boom next year.

You'd hope this stuff would be a teachable moment for teams to stop galaxybraning ways to avoid drafting talent, but probably not.

Our scouting staff is probably saying at the moment

"pfff, Tyler Boucher is bigger and would survive in the playoffs.... derp"

 

[BondraTime]

Demidov was in a tier by himself at #2, and he was much, much closer to Celebrini than he was the guy at 3.

Teams just try to be the smartest people in the room.

I’m just glad he never made it to 7, we’d have undoubtedly made the same mistake the Habs did with Michkov annd Reinbacher and passed on him for the big RD.

 

[Hotsam Batcho]

On a scale of 0 to 10 can someone tell me how much respek I should show Demidov?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I thought you had to wait 4 years to judge a prospect

 

[JungleBeat]

Slafkovsky looks weak though, not skilled enough.

 

[Ouroboros]

I thought you had to wait 4 years to judge a prospect

Only for defensemen. They need to play 700 games before you know if they're good or not.