Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[GCK]

I don't know about that... did the Rangers fix all the problems by trading Trouba?

They do have Shersterkin, Panarin and Fox but outside of that... Trocheck, Zibanejad and Kreider seem to have declined, Lafreniere and Cuylle not taking another step, Kakko given away. I don't find them scary outside of Shesterkin going beast mode. I admit if they're getting Miller without subtracting too much... Jackets and Habs have young guys breaking out and Jackets have Werenski who is going to be a Norris finalist. The 2 youngest teams, on the rise but who knows, might lack experience or not, but they do have some veterans

Not that I’m overly concerned about any of the teams but the Rangers are probably more dangerous than Columbus or Montreal.

 

[Blotto71]

Seems like it might be a Zibby/Miller swap IMO. Don't see how it would work for the Rangers otherwise.

Why on Earth would Vancouver make that deal? There would have to be some significant +'s attached from NY

 

[Xspyrit]

Not that I’m overly concerned about any of the teams but the Rangers are probably more dangerous than Columbus or Montreal.

All 3 teams actually don't have very "concerning" advanced stats. Rangers are 23rd in xGF% at 5v5, Jackets are 25th and Habs are 27th (we are 10th)

However since December 17th (the habs turnaround) they are 12th, we are 17th, Rangers are 19th and Jackets 26th

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

McDavid and Chaos Giraffe both needs suspensions. The refs let that game go way out of hand before it even got to both of those guys doing dirty shit

Both guys that got hit continued to scrum and came out unscathed, so I'm not betting on much of a suspension.

 

[GCK]

All 3 teams actually don't have very "concerning" advanced stats. Rangers are 23rd in xGF% at 5v5, Jackets are 25th and Habs are 27th (we are 10th)

However since December 17th (the habs turnaround) they are 12th, we are 17th, Rangers are 19th and Jackets 26th

I’ve see the Habs run done by the Sens. Once it gets real youth messes themselves.

 

[Xspyrit]

I’ve see the Habs run done by the Sens. Once it gets real youth messes themselves.

I don't really want to talk about them but still going to answer you. They have a lot going on. Suzuki is 25 y/o, never misses a game and is PPG over the last 2 seasons. Hutson is 20 y/o, going to win the Calder and is 6th in D-man scoring (easily going to outscore EK's 20 y/o season). Caufield is breaking out and is 8th in goals scored. Laine has 11 goals in 17 games, etc, etc. Whatever the Sens did before, they were playing DJ DORION hockey, nobody could OVERCOME that. We needed Staios to actually have a semblance of a future. He has started to fix some of the mess and still have more work ahead.

That said, hopefully you're right and they stop winning, their rebuild has been trending too well. I actually predicted that for 2025-26 so it's actually been faster than I expected

 

[GCK]

I don't really want to talk about them but still going to answer you. They have a lot going on. Suzuki is 25 y/o, never misses a game and is PPG over the last 2 seasons. Hutson is 20 y/o, going to win the Calder and is 6th in D-man scoring (easily going to outscore EK's 20 y/o season). Caufield is breaking out and is 8th in goals scored. Laine has 11 goals in 17 games, etc, etc. Whatever the Sens did before, they were playing DJ DORION hockey, nobody could OVERCOME that. We needed Staios to actually have a semblance of a future. He has started to fix some of the mess and still have more work ahead.

That said, hopefully you're right and they stop winning, their rebuild has been trending too well. I actually predicted that for 2025-26 so it's actually been faster than I expected

That’s fair. Gorton and Hughes have done well with veterans surrounding their youth but this is a big offseason coming up for them.

 

[PatrickEaves]

I don't really want to talk about them but still going to answer you. They have a lot going on. Suzuki is 25 y/o, never misses a game and is PPG over the last 2 seasons. Hutson is 20 y/o, going to win the Calder and is 6th in D-man scoring (easily going to outscore EK's 20 y/o season). Caufield is breaking out and is 8th in goals scored. Laine has 11 goals in 17 games, etc, etc. Whatever the Sens did before, they were playing DJ DORION hockey, nobody could OVERCOME that. We needed Staios to actually have a semblance of a future. He has started to fix some of the mess and still have more work ahead.

That said, hopefully you're right and they stop winning, their rebuild has been trending too well. I actually predicted that for 2025-26 so it's actually been faster than I expected

Dustin Wolf is going to win the Calder.

(Actually Leevi is when he pulled off the Hammond run)

 

[starling]

Calder is Merilainen's, what are you all talking about?

 

[BigRig4]

Wow that return for Miller was gonna be awful

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That’s fair. Gorton and Hughes have done well with veterans surrounding their youth but this is a big offseason coming up for them.

I found that they have used their cap and showed an ability to extract value out of players that were close to being given away.
I think they are well connected and are steering the rebuild well. Going to get Carrier looks like a fantastic move .. its too bad the Sens could not have been more in on him starting this past summer.

 

[GCK]

I found that they have used their cap and showed an ability to extract value out of players that were close to being given away.
I think they are well connected and are steering the rebuild well. Going to get Carrier looks like a fantastic move .. its too bad the Sens could not have been more in on him starting this past summer.

I have my theory that Trotz was doing Carrier a favour by limiting the teams to which he would be traded. Montreal has used their financial might well during the rebuild. Hopefully they don’t get another Demidov level player because that would be a problem for us.

 

[bicboi64]

Calder is Merilainen's, what are you all talking about?

Along with the Vezina and Conn Smythe

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I have my theory that Trotz was doing Carrier a favour by limiting the teams to which he would be traded. Montreal has used their financial might well during the rebuild. Hopefully they don’t get another Demidov level player because that would be a problem for us.

As a rebuild moves along to me its about establishing an identity and finding the right fit pieces to build out and around the team.

The timing, position , fit , price all have to come together and mistakes like Debrincat in fit and timing and Chychrun on position and fit are costly and the value of those picks you give up to get them have to be cherished. So the people putting that puzzle together have to know what they are doing.

 

[GCK]

As a rebuild moves along to me its about establishing an identity and finding the right fit pieces to build out and around the team.

The timing, position , fit , price all have to come together and mistakes like Debrincat in fit and timing and Chychrun on position and fit are costly and the value of those picks you give up to get them have to be cherished. So the people putting that puzzle together have to know what they are doing.

Agree. So far so good with new management.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Why on Earth would Vancouver make that deal? There would have to be some significant +'s attached from NY

You see Kakko's numbers after joining Seattle? I am not sure it's the players on the Rangers, so much as everything else.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[PatrickEaves]

DJ Smith would never.

 

[HSF]

kakko with 13 points in 14 games

Sometimes i feel like GMs don't like doing their jobs

 

[Wallet Inspector]

kakko with 13 points in 14 games

Sometimes i feel like GMs don't like doing their jobs

Hindsight is 20/20 blah blah blah but Kakko was a no-brainer buy low.

 

[HSF]

Hindsight is 20/20 blah blah blah but Kakko was a no-brainer buy low.

Would look nice beside Stutzle

 

[Blotto71]

You see Kakko's numbers after joining Seattle? I am not sure it's the players on the Rangers, so much as everything else.

Sure, but as others have mentioned, Kakko was a no-brainer buy low opportunity. I don't know what Drury was thinking and can only guess that his brains are still a bit scrambled from Neil's hit in Buffalo. But that doesn't mean that Allvin's brains are equally as scrambled! Miller is, and has been, far superior to DJ Zbad - and $500K/yr cheaper. Big +'s from NY to make that happen I think.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

DJ increases time on ice.

 

[Stutzlaaaa]

Let's be real here yeah MTL has some young pieces like any other teams who were bottom for years that fluke in covid yeara was a cendrilla story. Am just going to say that they are in a hot streak mid half they were competinf for last spot in division everything is going well almost no pressure since they werw expecting rebuild. Watch them be back to reality starting February when their goalie can't save them every games and their star players start cooling off from tighter checkinf game and more physical play. They got speed and high sh% with really good goaltending right now