Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[bicboi64]

Why on earth would you figure Raymond would get more than Seider? Raymond, while a good player, is a smallish winger, Stu set the cap for him by being a better player in a more important position. If Raymond somehow got close to 9 then Yzerman should have gotten fired.

Seider is a big skilled RHD, I could see him pushing 9 mil, 8.5 would be a solid deal for him.

Honeslty thought both of them would get identical deals at $ 9 million at 8 years (similar to Stu and Sandy) but more since the cap's gone up since our guys signed.

Seider positionally is more important to that team, but Raymond is their equivalent of Stu. Smallish winger who carried the offensive load when their captain went down.

 

[bicboi64]

Yzerman really screwed up their cap situation by going crazy in the 2022 offseason.

Signed Copp, Chariot, Holl and Husso all signed to deals 3 years or longer for a total of 18.5M of deadweight.

Done good work outside of that off-season but man I have no idea what he was thinking that summer.

Completely valid points, but all those vet additions is what let the Wings have the depth to almost make it to the playoffs. If Yzerman just shows a bit of restraint that summer or even this summer, he'd have been fine. This past off season, not sure if he really needed to pay Veleno, Fischer, Gustafsson, or even Talbot.

After he paid to move Walman, I wonder what he'll have to pay to move Holl, Chiarot or Maata.

 

[Micklebot]

Honeslty thought both of them would get identical deals at $ 9 million at 8 years (similar to Stu and Sandy) but more since the cap's gone up since our guys signed.

Seider positionally is more important to that team, but Raymond is their equivalent of Stu. Smallish winger who carried the offensive load when their captain went down.

Ok but Seider is their Sanderson only he plays the more important right side. Wingers get paid less than centers, and Raymond isn't as good as Stu, Seider should get more than Raymond without a doubt in my mind.

 

[bicboi64]

Ok but Seider is their Sanderson only he plays the more important right side. Wingers get paid less than centers, and Raymond isn't as good as Stu, Seider should get more than Raymond without a doubt in my mind.

Wingers get paid less than centres, but Raymond is the only wings forward prospect who remotely hit his offensive potential so far. I wouldn't have been surprised to see Raymond get $9 million based on that and the cap having gone up a bit.

Just to be transparent, I'm not saying Raymond should get more, just that I wouldn't have been surprised if they both had similar contracts. Plus Yzerman hasn't exactly given out the most reasonable deals the last two summers so I wouldn't be surprised if his young stars made Stevie Y open the bank given how generous he's been with deals to depth guys.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Completely valid points, but all those vet additions is what let the Wings have the depth to almost make it to the playoffs. If Yzerman just shows a bit of restraint that summer or even this summer, he'd have been fine. This past off season, not sure if he really needed to pay Veleno, Fischer, Gustafsson, or even Talbot.

After he paid to move Walman, I wonder what he'll have to pay to move Holl, Chiarot or Maata.

I don't think Copp, Husso, Chariot and Holl did much to help them almost make the playoffs.

They are definitely the reason for the cap crunch and I'm not sure why he didn't just buyout one or two of them to open up enough cap space to keep Walman and re-sign their key players.

Questionable moves for sure.

 

[Tuna99]

Of course the coward who turned into a 4 year old when confronted by Jagmeet was wearing a Leafs hat. on brand

 

[Xspyrit]

Yzerman really screwed up their cap situation by going crazy in the 2022 offseason.

Signed Copp, Chariot, Holl and Husso all signed to deals 3 years or longer for a total of 18.5M of deadweight.

Done good work outside of that off-season but man I have no idea what he was thinking that summer.

He caught the Dorionavirus?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Edmonton Oilers sign Mike Hoffman to PTO | TSN

The Edmonton Oilers have signed veteran forward Mike Hoffman to a professional tryout agreement on Wednesday as NHL training camps opened.

www.tsn.ca

Maybe Hoffman isn't done yet. Doubt he'd get played high enough in the lineup, but of all the places, this seems like a good fit. Hope he can pull it off, but not holding my breath.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Interesting stat. Ottawa Senators ‑ All‑Time NHL Leaders

Brady is already 7th all time for points
Bath will enter the top 20 this season
Chabot is 4th all time in points
Stu can enter the top 10 with a 100pt season.

I see Brady as 9th
Chabot as 16th

In your link.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1836389857943294390

 

[Micklebot]

I see Brady as 9th
Chabot as 16th

In your link.

I think he's doing it by position,

1.Karlsson
2.Redden
3.Phillips
4.Chabot

1. Alfie
2.Spezza
3. Yashin
4. Bonk
5.hossa
6. Heatley
7.Brady

 

[OD99]

Of course the coward who turned into a 4 year old when confronted by Jagmeet was wearing a Leafs hat. on brand

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Link?

 

[Micklebot]

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Link?

Pretty sure it's sort of politics, so not the right place. I think it's reference to some dude calling Singh corrupt then pretending he didn't when confronted, you can google it but we're not going to discuss that here despite the guy wearing a Leafs hat when he did it....

 

[Golden_Jet]

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Link?

Was on the news last night.

 

[Tuna99]

Staois Ullmark trade not only got us a Vezina winner it’s obvious mind-f***ed the Bruins and not they May start their season without their team MVP/ even this distraction helps the Sens. 3D chess by Staois here

 

[bicboi64]

I see Brady as 9th
Chabot as 16th

In your link.

My apologies, when I had that site filtered, it was by position

Hoff signs PTO with Edmonton. Man that team is becoming one of the most unlikeable organizations right now

Oilers sign forward Mike Hoffman to PTO

Mike Hoffman will get a chance to continue his NHL career with the Edmonton Oilers.

www.sportsnet.ca

I wonder if they'll have Matt Cooke join the office in some capacity too.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Staois Ullmark trade not only got us a Vezina winner it’s obvious mind-f***ed the Bruins and not they May start their season without their team MVP/ even this distraction helps the Sens. 3D chess by Staois here

I think that Swayman will get signed, but it's looking more and more like they should have kept Ullmark as an own-rental.

If they didn't have to take back cap, it would make sense. Because you could justify that the return on Ullmark was both the futures they received, and the 5M they opened up to spend somewhere else. They only freed up 2M, and worse they took on the liability of Korpisalo at 3M when they could have likely gotten an equally as iffy backup for under 2M.

Especially with how soft the market was for goalies, they could have held on to him until the TDL and still reasonably expected to get an equivalent return.

I guess their fear was that he would put Ottawa on his no trade list on July 1st in order to increase the odds that he stays in Boston, or to gain more leverage over his situation (for example, he could say I will go to Ottawa, but only with an 8x8 sign-and-trade in place).

With that said, is keeping Ullmark as part of a tandem and having him walk for nothing at the end of the season worse than getting a late 1st, but having to take Korpisalo at 3M x 4 years to get it?

 

[bert]

Ok but Seider is their Sanderson only he plays the more important right side. Wingers get paid less than centers, and Raymond isn't as good as Stu, Seider should get more than Raymond without a doubt in my mind.

This post is bang on in every way.

 

[Senscore]

Our first game against Boston is in January. Bummer.

 

[Relapsing]

The Swayman situation in Boston is wild and frankly f***ing awesome.

Never more happy for Staios grabbing Linus when he did.

f*** Boston. May they be bad for as long as they've been good.

 

[Senscore]

Also we need to address how absolutely insane Hab fans are. Those dorks have really lost the plot.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

My apologies, when I had that site filtered, it was by position

Hoff signs PTO with Edmonton. Man that team is becoming one of the most unlikeable organizations right now

Oilers sign forward Mike Hoffman to PTO

Mike Hoffman will get a chance to continue his NHL career with the Edmonton Oilers.

www.sportsnet.ca

I wonder if they'll have Matt Cooke join the office in some capacity too.

Lol, how dare you name Hoffman and Cooke in the same post as if there's parallels.

One made a poor decision on behalf of his wife, while the other was a giant POS out to intentionally injure his peers, or in the case of Marc Savard, almost murder him.

Only real guys with issues I see are Kane and Bowman or am I missing someone?

 

[bicboi64]

Lol, how dare you name Hoffman and Cooke in the same post as if there's parallels.

One made a poor decision on behalf of his wife, while the other was a giant POS out to intentionally injure his peers, or in the case of Marc Savard, almost murder him.

Only real guys with issues I see are Kane and Bowman or am I missing someone?

I'm just kidding for the most part with the Cooke Hoff comaprison.

Oil have loads of guys that I can't personally stand. Perry, Nurse, JBrown, and heck even Draistal who can be dirty af.

Also, take everything I say about the Oil with less than a grain of salt, I'm a certified hater

 

[The Waffler]

The Swayman situation in Boston is wild and frankly f***ing awesome.

Never more happy for Staios grabbing Linus when he did.

f*** Boston. May they be bad for as long as they've been good.

They won’t struggle, they’ve got Korpisalo on their side.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I'm just kidding for the most part with the Cooke Hoff comaprison.

Oil have loads of guys that I can't personally stand. Perry, Nurse, JBrown, and heck even Draistal who can be dirty af.

Also, take everything I say about the Oil with less than a grain of salt, I'm a certified hater

All good, I'm just razzing ya. I forgot about Perry, I'll give you that one lol.

I get it on the hate front too. I often find myself cheering against teams more than cheering for the other team. Habs and Leafs included.