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Sanderson

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SpezDispenser said:
I'd have paid Draisaitl that too - and happily, but....we all watched the SC Final, right? Dude was not good when it counted most. Or maybe he was checked really hard? Whatever the case may be...
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He had a broken finger and multiple broken ribs since the end of the Vancouver series. It's what turned him from 2+ PPG and leading the league in scoring to a shell of his usual self.

14m is definately not much of a team-discount, but he probably would have gotten more as UFA next year. With the cap finally rising again, the salary of the high-end players hould start to jump up again.
In the end, what really matters is the percentage of cap a contract takes, and that should be in line with the contract of similar players at a similar point in time.
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Sanderson said:
He had a broken finger and multiple broken ribs since the end of the Vancouver series. It's what turned him from 2+ PPG and leading the league in scoring to a shell of his usual self.

14m is definately not much of a team-discount, but he probably would have gotten more as UFA next year. With the cap finally rising again, the salary of the high-end players hould start to jump up again.
In the end, what really matters is the percentage of cap a contract takes, and that should be in line with the contract of similar players at a similar point in time.
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And 2 years prior he was arguably their best player in the playoffs while playing on one knee. He's worth it.
 
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Sanderson said:
He had a broken finger and multiple broken ribs since the end of the Vancouver series. It's what turned him from 2+ PPG and leading the league in scoring to a shell of his usual self.

14m is definately not much of a team-discount, but he probably would have gotten more as UFA next year. With the cap finally rising again, the salary of the high-end players hould start to jump up again.
In the end, what really matters is the percentage of cap a contract takes, and that should be in line with the contract of similar players at a similar point in time.
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Ah, didn't realize that.
 

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SpezDispenser said:
I'd have paid Draisaitl that too - and happily, but....we all watched the SC Final, right? Dude was not good when it counted most. Or maybe he was checked really hard? Whatever the case may be...
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I watched that final game. IMO, both he and McDavid were overplayed, probably had very little in the tank. Surprised me as the previous game, they got depth scoring. I will always wonder if the coach hadn't shortened the bench to the extreme if the result would've been the same.
 
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LiseL said:
I watched that final game. IMO, both he and McDavid were overplayed, probably had very little in the tank. Surprised me as the previous game, they got depth scoring. I will always wonder if the coach hadn't shortened the bench to the extreme if the result would've been the same.
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I really hate to say it because he wasn't entirely at fault on the play and played admirably despite all the criticism, but Skinner needed to have that shot from Reinhart. Tough goal at a tough time and I felt like that was it right there.
 
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I really hate to say it because he wasn't entirely at fault on the play and played admirably despite all the criticism, but Skinner needed to have that shot from Reinhart. Tough goal at a tough time and I felt like that was it right there.
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Probably, but I didn't realize Dari was playing with a busted hand. It makes a ton of sense. They were SO close and he missed a couple of huge scoring chances and really didn't fight too hard in the corners, but now you can understand why a little more.

Man, remember after the Reinhart goal how close they came to scoring like - 4 times? It was insane. If I were a Panthers fan I would have sharted and died.
 
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SpezDispenser said:
Probably, but I didn't realize Dari was playing with a busted hand. It makes a ton of sense. They were SO close and he missed a couple of huge scoring chances and really didn't fight too hard in the corners, but now you can understand why a little more.

Man, remember after the Reinhart goal how close they came to scoring like - 4 times? It was insane. If I were a Panthers fan I would have sharted and died.
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Ya he looked pretty ineffective at the end. Too bad.

I would put the game 7 double OT loss against the Pens up there. I was basically in a 4 hour long panic attack until the bottom fell out and went in to a months long depression lol.
 
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BonHoonLayneCornell said:
Ya he looked pretty ineffective at the end. Too bad.

I would put the game 7 double OT loss against the Pens up there. I was basically in a 4 hour long panic attack until the bottom fell out and went in to a months long depression lol.
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I had so many really, really anxious times watching. I must have done damage to my long term health.
 
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This just in! Every fan base in the NHL looses it's shit over every little thing because too long no hockey, must make noise.
 
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The Tua case is interesting, the fans are like “we don’t want to see you die on the field, no more, retire”

Tua’s people are like “he’s a man, he has the right to feed his family so if he dies on the field trying to feed his family that’s honourable and what men do”
 
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Tuna99 said:
The Tua case is interesting, the fans are like “we don’t want to see you die on the field, no more, retire”

Tua’s people are like “he’s a man, he has the right to feed his family so if he dies on the field trying to feed his family that’s honourable and what men do”
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Lol, if Tua can't afford to feed his family he needs a new financial advisor, even if he does retire immediately.
 

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Raymond signed for $8million aav at 8 year, thought he'd get around $9 million. Wings only have $8.7 million in capspace to sign Seider. I figured he'd take $8.5 million at 8 years, but if he wants $9 million, some of Yzerman's insulation signings will backfire.

Chiarot, Holl, Maata, Kane, Tarasenko, Copp, Compher and Fischer, these are all guys that help keep them competitive but there's a couple that don't need to be there because the Wings have prospects that need a chance to play in the big league.

Yzerman might have to pay to move Holl or Maata to make room to sign Seider, which is fine, but they aren't the most asset heavy.
 
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bicboi64 said:
Raymond signed for $8million aav at 8 year, thought he'd get around $9 million. Wings only have $8.7 million in capspace to sign Seider. I figured he'd take $8.5 million at 8 years, but if he wants $9 million, some of Yzerman's insulation signings will backfire.

Chiarot, Holl, Maata, Kane, Tarasenko, Copp, Compher and Fischer, these are all guys that help keep them competitive but there's a couple that don't need to be there because the Wings have prospects that need a chance to play in the big league.

Yzerman might have to pay to move Holl or Maata to make room to sign Seider, which is fine, but they aren't the most asset heavy.
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Why on earth would you figure Raymond would get more than Seider? Raymond, while a good player, is a smallish winger, Stu set the cap for him by being a better player in a more important position. If Raymond somehow got close to 9 then Yzerman should have gotten fired.

Seider is a big skilled RHD, I could see him pushing 9 mil, 8.5 would be a solid deal for him.
 

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bicboi64 said:
Raymond signed for $8million aav at 8 year, thought he'd get around $9 million. Wings only have $8.7 million in capspace to sign Seider. I figured he'd take $8.5 million at 8 years, but if he wants $9 million, some of Yzerman's insulation signings will backfire.

Chiarot, Holl, Maata, Kane, Tarasenko, Copp, Compher and Fischer, these are all guys that help keep them competitive but there's a couple that don't need to be there because the Wings have prospects that need a chance to play in the big league.

Yzerman might have to pay to move Holl or Maata to make room to sign Seider, which is fine, but they aren't the most asset heavy.
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Yzerman really screwed up their cap situation by going crazy in the 2022 offseason.

Signed Copp, Chariot, Holl and Husso all signed to deals 3 years or longer for a total of 18.5M of deadweight.

Done good work outside of that off-season but man I have no idea what he was thinking that summer.
 
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