Around the NHL — Episode XLXVII

[Senscore]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844029680690835577

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844029680690835577

Nice for Joey... We used to have depth at the goalie position.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Good for Daccord man. 5 x

Gotta think some here said he sucked cuz he didn’t make the team or hit waivers.

 

[Senscore]

Also, Woll injured already, won't start in Montreal.


Shocker.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844030063152431480

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

We have Ullmark for one season only at this time. Hopefully he signs another contract with us.

I agree that getting rid of Korpisalo is definitely a good thing, even as we have to pay 25% of his remaining contract. But we also had to pay a 1st round pick to dump him to get Ullmark for one season.

If we don't sign Ullmark we are not making progress.

Moot point now I guess lol.

It would not have been ideal had Ullmark not re-signed, but the benefits of dumping Korpisalo are real. I was excited to at least have the opportunity to start over and not be saddled with 4 years of a team killing non solution signed by the previous doofus.

 

[bicboi64]

I am impressed that Bennett still hasn't been knocked tf out for the dirty crap he pulls. He sucker punched Marchand last year, and now is running amok with no regard for player safety. Refs/DoPS not doing anything about it is going to cost someone their health

 

[Cosmix]

You should read the news more.

What news? Got it.


EDIT: Ullmark signs 4-year, $33 million contract with Senators | NHL.com

 

[BigRig4]

Anyone know if the Panthers have flown out yet? I suspect flights will be grounded shortly in that area.

 

[DylanSensFan]

So, after seeing how Vegas was recently treated by the league regarding Lehner, my question is: Why are we as a fan base sitting on our hands and letting the NHL strip our team of a first round pick? My feeling is that we need to start protesting this decision by the NHL and get our rightfully deserved first round pick back.

 

[BondraTime]

So, after seeing how Vegas was recently treated by the league regarding Lehner, my question is: Why are we as a fan base sitting on our hands and letting the NHL strip our team of a first round pick? My feeling is that we need to start protesting this decision by the NHL and get our rightfully deserved first round pick back.

Because it's a very clear and cut reason why the pick is being stripped

 

[DylanSensFan]

Because it's a very clear and cut reason why the pick is being stripped

We had a dumb GM who was here before the new ownership took over?

 

[GCK]

Because it's a very clear and cut reason why the pick is being stripped

It’s also fairly clear cut that the league waited until the sale went through to lay down the punishment.

 

[BondraTime]

We had a dumb GM who was here before the new ownership took over?

Yes

We had a member of the organization who "at best" messed up a trade call by leaving out contractual information and giving both the NHL and opposing team incorrect information regarding a players status. This information has a significant impact on trades, both inital trade with Vegas and the Vegas trade with Anaheim.

Sens caused a problem with the daily activity of the league and never followed by-laws that need to be enforced, they need to be punished for it the same way the Yotes were when they were dinged a pick, even though Chyka wasn't with them anyore.

It’s also fairly clear cut that the league waited until the sale went through to lay down the punishment.

Agreed, though it seems the issue there lies more so with Dorion and the Melnyk board of directors, it wasn't something that came out of the blue; they knew that there was punishment/repurcussions coming, Andlauer included. It was just called "nothing to worry about" by the board and Dorion.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Yes

We had a member of the organization who "at best" messed up a trade call by leaving out contractual information and giving both the NHL and opposing team incorrect information regarding a players status. This information has a significant impact on trades, both inital trade with Vegas and the Vegas trade with Anaheim.

Sens caused a problem with the daily activity of the league and never followed by-laws that need to be enforced, they need to be punished for it the same way the Yotes were when they were dinged a pick, even though Chyka wasn't with them anyore.

I don't think this punishment meet the crime. Vegas has been able to cheat the rules over and over, yet I don't see them face any consequences. They bear half the responsibility regarding Dadanov.

 

[BondraTime]

I don't think this punishment meet the crime. Vegas has been able to cheat the rules over and over, yet I don't see them face any consequences. They bear half the responsibility regarding Dadanov.

Andlauer himself has said that he has recieved a 73 page document that showed that the Sens were "downright negligent" in nature to the Dadonov trade.

Vegas bears 0 responsibility regarding Dadonov. They were told straight up on a trade call with the NHL and Dorion that he never submitted his trade clause and it was thus null and void. Once that happens, it's on the party who made that blunder, which is the Sens.

 

[Cosmix]

We had a dumb GM who was here before the new ownership took over?

It's about the Franchise, not who the owner is or was.

However, I think the punishment is too severe for the mistake that was made by the GM in not checking and ensuring that what he was saying was correct. I think the punishment should be reduced.

EDIT: What was the impact of the oversight by Dorion? The team that traded for Dadonov was not able to trade Dadonov to a short list of other teams. THAT is not a significant negative impact. A fine seems more appropriate than the loss of a first round draft pick. Bettman should be embarrassed by this level of punishment for such a transgression of the system for communicating such information that the NHL itself did not attach significant importance to implement a tracking system.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Andlauer himself has said that he has recieved a 73 page document that showed that the Sens were "downright negligent" in nature to the Dadonov trade.

They bear 0 responsibility regarding Dadonov. They were told straight up on a trade call with the NHL and Dorion that he never submitted his trade clause and it was thus null and void. Once that happens, it's on the party who made that blunder, which is the Sens.

Well now, I guess I can just say I'm glad we moved on from Dorion. Still disappointing.

 

[JD1]

It’s also fairly clear cut that the league waited until the sale went through to lay down the punishment.

it is also fairly clear that the league could hire a kid to build an excel spreadsheet to keep track of this stuff......complete BS amateur hour at the league office IMO....and the punishment meted out to Ottawa masks the league's incompetence

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Still was an overly harsh punishment imo that should be lessened, but no surprise for me considering it's the NHL. They're all over the map when it comes to punishments.

 

[Cosmix]

Well now, I guess I can just say I'm glad we moved on from Dorion. Still disappointing.

I was never a Dorion fan. I did not like him when he was appointed and really disliked him when he traded Zibanejad. Then it got worse and worse over time.

it is also fairly clear that the league could hire a kid to build an excel spreadsheet to keep track of this stuff......complete BS amateur hour at the league office IMO....and the punishment meted out to Ottawa masks the league's incompetence

I am still waiting to see what the league will do about this lack of a tracking system for NTCs and NMCs, and related "lists".

 

[Hale The Villain]

Hopefully Andlauer is able to get the punishment reduced like Lamoreillo did for the Devils back in 2014.

They got penalized a 1st round pick for signing Kovalchuk to a 17 year contract they knew he would never finish.

They did have to give up their own 1st, which I believe was in the 10-14 range in 2024, but the league later decided to give them the last pick in the 1st round.

Given that the GM who made the error has been fired and Andlauer clearly wasn't given sufficient notice about an impending penalty by the league prior to buying the franchise, wouldn't shock me if the penalty ended up getting reduced.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Vegas saying they missed the playoffs from being unable to activate Stone(due to not being able to trade Dadonov) should lose credibility since they've now made the playoffs TWICE with Stone missing like half the season each time.

 

[bicboi64]

Hopefully Andlauer is able to get the punishment reduced like Lamoreillo did for the Devils back in 2014.

They got penalized a 1st round pick for signing Kovalchuk to a 17 year contract they knew he would never finish.

They did have to give up their own 1st, which I believe was in the 10-14 range in 2024, but the league later decided to give them the last pick in the 1st round.

Given that the GM who made the error has been fired and Andlauer clearly wasn't given sufficient notice about an impending penalty by the league prior to buying the franchise, wouldn't shock me if the penalty ended up getting reduced.

Pretty much this. The Sens are completely in the wrong, but it shouldn't have taken as much times as it did to let new/pending ownership know how much the penalty would be.

Even if our pick automatically gets changed to the 32nd overall that year, its better than having to lose it

 

[Hale The Villain]

Vegas saying they missed the playoffs from being unable to activate Stone(due to not being able to trade Dadonov) should lose credibility since they've now made the playoffs TWICE with Stone missing like half the season each time.

The argument they missed the playoffs in 21/22 because they got stuck with Dadonov is questionable, but I don't think Vegas making the playoffs twice with Stone going on LTIR late in the year impacts that argument at all.

They were 9th in the West when the Dadonov trade fell through. They were already having a tough time that year due to the injury bug taking out several of their best players for a good chunk of the year.

The next two seasons the Knights were in a playoff spot when Stone went onto LTIR. Not having him had less of an impact in those years.