Around the League Thread | Pre-Season Approaches

[Jerry the great]

i mean the 2011 team was painted as some type of atrocity and disgrace to the hockey world. so yeah of course we should care about that.

Sorry, i still don't care what other teams fanbases said about our team then (or now). it's probably no worse than the shit we say out them. We're all more than a little unhinged.

 

[HairyKneel]

Yup Quinn Hughes would never strip him of his captaincy.

I didn't mention Quinn. I was more calling out the poster(s) who said Brady was a rotten captain, but nice straw man construction.

 

[rypper]

doesn't matter, they were the only fanbase that supported us when everyone demonized the shit out of our team. Never forget.

I'd rather have no friends and everyone hate the team rather then call the Habs fan base "friends."

And If in 2011 the Canucks were playing say the lightning, penguins etc any other team, the Habs would have had just as much hate for them as everyone else.

 

[4th line culture]

Stuztle hit himself in the face with his own stick. Did wifi even touch his head? Is there different angles they didnt show during the broadcast?

 

[Vector]

Stuztle hit himself in the face with his own stick. Did wifi even touch his head? Is there different angles they didnt show during the broadcast?

Even if the thing that contact his head was the stick, saying he hit himself with it is extremely disengenous.

 

[arttk]

Sorry, i still don't care what other teams fanbases said about our team then (or now). it's probably no worse than the shit we say out them. We're all more than a little unhinged.

with the same logic, why would you care about any other fan base anyways.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Eh, I don't mind the players policing themselves to an extent out there.

Xhekaj is a throwback to the era of 'if you hit my star, you fight. If you don't flght, I go after your star'.

I remember when Peca famously caught Selanne for a hit that made him do a full flip and fractured his orbital bone and Tie Domi was caught on a hot mic saying, "Next game, don't dress Pavel. Don't dress Pavel next game".

I think cheap shots are bad and should be litigated out of the game as much as possible. But if this reduces rats who cheapshot stars and then hide behind refs, I don't mind it. Hockey is a man's game afterall (not meaning this in a misogynistic way).

Which is why I was relatively fine with what Zucker did to Cousins. The game should have some edge to it, and some more Xhekaj's in it.

 

[arttk]

I'd rather have no friends and everyone hate the team rather then call the Habs fan base "friends."

And If in 2011 the Canucks were playing say the lightning, penguins etc any other team, the Habs would have had just as much hate for them as everyone else.

i don't really care about having other fanbase as "friends". But i do care about having our players being seen as some kind of disgrace. Lightning won a ton, people kinda hate them but still respect them for who they are. I think our 2011 team was unfairly painted as cheaters.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

i don't really care about having other fanbase as "friends". But i do care about having our players being seen as some kind of disgrace. Lightning won a ton, people kinda hate them but still respect them for who they are. I think our 2011 team was unfairly painted as cheaters.

I don’t care nearly as much about other fan bases doing that than I do the media. Who can by the way get f***ed. 2011 was disgraceful, but it even continues to this day. During the Oilers series this year they were doing a segment on diving and had a bunch of Canucks examples to start off, then an Oiler example. They missed a bunch of Oilers examples and were obviiously trying to make it look like the Canucks were diving more. Disgusting.

 

[valkynax]

I don’t care nearly as much about other fan bases doing that than I do the media. Who can by the way get f***ed. 2011 was disgraceful, but it even continues to this day. During the Oilers series this year they were doing a segment on diving and had a bunch of Canucks examples to start off, then an Oiler example. They missed a bunch of Oilers examples and were obviiously trying to make it look like the Canucks were diving more. Disgusting.

Main stream media overall is just piss water these days, and it's only getting worse.

The fact that Seravelli and Button can still remain employed proves the point even further.

 

[4th line culture]

Even if the thing that contact his head was the stick, saying he hit himself with it is extremely disengenous.

I could be wrong but is there a rule stating you must make sure a player has his stick in a safe position before hitting them?

I was under the understanding that a player is responsible for and has to be in control of their own stick at all times.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

I didn't mention Quinn. I was more calling out the poster(s) who said Brady was a rotten captain, but nice straw man construction.

It was a joke.

 

[Hodgy]

Neely is a f***ing idiot.

Him and the Bruins deserve each other.

f*** him and that franchise.

Why? Swayman, to me, if the idiot that is behaving unreasonably, if anything. Guy has played 132 NHL regular season games in the most volatile position and wants 9.5 million by 8? Its insane, I wouldn't even offer the rumoured 7.8 by 8. And I don't think Neely characterizing the offer as 8x8 when its 7.8 x 8 is overly egregious or whatever.

 

[MS]

Why? Swayman, to me, if the idiot that is behaving unreasonably, if anything. Guy has played 132 NHL regular season games in the most volatile position and wants 9.5 million by 8? Its insane, I wouldn't even offer the rumoured 7.8 by 8. And I don't think Neely characterizing the offer as 8x8 when its 7.8 x 8 is overly egregious or whatever.

Swayman seems like he's being incredibly greedy but the comments by Neely were ill-advised at best and basically just threw gasoline onto the fire.

 

[Hodgy]

Swayman seems like he's being incredibly greedy but the comments by Neely were ill-advised at best and basically just threw gasoline onto the fire.

For sure. It won't help the situation at all.

But the real problem is that Swayman is being unreasonable. Very unreasonable. And the fact that Swayman whined about a 200K per year misrepresentation of the offer the Bruins have made tells us all we need to know about him.

 

[valkynax]

Swayman seems like he's being incredibly greedy but the comments by Neely were ill-advised at best and basically just threw gasoline onto the fire.

Boston now not only lost leverage on the situation, but they also threw themselves into this PR mess, didn't they?

What if what Swayman's agent said was true? They tried to low ball him and claimed that 8X8 was the offer instead, then gets caught red handed with lies?

 

[Hodgy]

Boston now not only lost leverage on the situation, but they also threw themselves into this PR mess, didn't they?

What if what Swayman's agent said was true? They tried to low ball him and claimed that 8X8 was the offer instead, then gets caught red handed with lies?

Except it sounds like they offered him 7.8 x 8 and that Neely was basically just rounding up to make a point. If, in fact, the offer was far less then I don't know why Swayman's agent wouldn't have said that much in his release. I think Swayman was just mad that he was being publicly called out for being so unreasonable.

 

[valkynax]

Except it sounds like they offered him 7.8 x 8 and that Neely was basically just rounding up to make a point. If, in fact, the offer was far less then I don't know why Swayman's agent wouldn't have said that much in his release. I think Swayman was just mad that he was being publicly called out for being so unreasonable.

Ah, so you're saying it's also possible that Bruins did make a reasonable offer that's a hair short of a whole number, and now Swayman's camp is running away with a misquoted narrative?

Yeesh, what a mess of a situation.

 

[pitseleh]

Except it sounds like they offered him 7.8 x 8 and that Neely was basically just rounding up to make a point. If, in fact, the offer was far less then I don't know why Swayman's agent wouldn't have said that much in his release. I think Swayman was just mad that he was being publicly called out for being so unreasonable.

Neely said $64 million, not $8 x 8 though, so wasn’t really rounding up.

Seravalli also said Swayman was asking for $8.5 per so that’s almost meeting in the middle relative to their negotiating positions.

If you believe Friedman instead their last offer was $7.5 so it’s a bigger jump.

Not sure we know enough to really know if he’s justifiably annoyed.

 

[Jerry the great]

with the same logic, why would you care about any other fan base anyways.

i don't

 

[Szechwan]

I'd be willing to bet Bruins came out of the gate with a pretty insulting first offer in the 5-6m range, which pissed off Swayman after he was already screwed around by a contentious arbitration.

Now he's determined to get his money, and fair enough imo. I bet they settle at 8.15.

 

[arttk]

i don't

didn't you say you hate Montreal fan base?

 

[Jerry the great]

didn't you say you hate Montreal fan base?

Did I?

 

[David Bruce Banner]

I'll actively root against every other Canadian team, unless they're playing each other. Then, in order of most hated, its...

Oilers
Leafs

Flames
Habs
Senators
Jets

The Flames, Habs, Senators and Jets can change places depending upon the team they're icing at any given time. And the Jets being last is more of an insult than a complement... I just find them and their fans to be more bland than anything

 

[JT Milker]

Of course NHL doesn't care about player safety.

Unless if you give McDavid a harsh look

Then you're a worse person than Hitler

And you should be suspended for life
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