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AwesomeInTheory

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I would think that's an ecosystem that a goalie would be wise to avoid. Jack Campbell and Skinner are cautionary tales. And not like Oilers will have spare change to throw around next season.

I suspect the Canucks might invest in him tbh, seeing where this is heading with Demko uncertainty and Silovs struggles.

I could see the Oilers going full panic mode if they flame out and underperform (again) and Lanny is looking to get paid, so I could see some stupid deals being done to clear capspace in the short term.

Lankinen has juuuuuuust the right level of unprovenness for the Oilers to go all in for him for it to explode spectacularly in their faces. Not saying Lanny is going to not work out, just that the potential for high comedy is there.
 

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I dont think the Canucks are going to let Lankinen go

i usually preach caution with extensions -- for goalies especially -- but i think if they can get him under 5m per they need to seriously consider it. silovs is iffy to be a starter imo and even if demko makes it all the way back they're going to need a 1b guy
 
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LOL. No. He sucks as a GM.

What the hell is going on with the Preds? Forget about scoring, they can't even defend anymore. And it isn't like their defense went through a shuffle either. Seems like Saros masked a lot more than people realized. Or rather, Trotz realized.
They're not good. Their offseason was massively overrated by casuals. I figured they would underperform their projected point total by the sportsbooks, but I didn't think they would be this bad.
 
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LOL. No. He sucks as a GM.


They're not good. Their offseason was massively overrated by casuals. I figured they would underperform their projected point total by the sportsbooks, but I didn't think they would be this bad.
Look at this Preds roster on Puckpedia. They're aging out fast. Up front, O'Reilly and Marchessault are 33 and Stamkos is 34. And Nyqist is 35. Even Forsberg has hit the big 30.

On the back end, Josi is 34 and the ageless Luke Schenn is 35. Even their goaltenders are no spring chickens. Saros is 29, but with a ton of miles on his odometer and Wedgewood is 32.

This was a team built to win 'yesterday'. They're now 4-9-1 and in a month, the 'big selloff' could be in full swing. But it won't be easy, because some of these contracts are terrible.

And they're also paying the price for some awful contracts signed when Poile was the GM. I was stunned to see how much 'retained' contract money they're carrying on the books. Big bucks retained for the likes of Duchesne, Johannson, Turris and Ekholm. It amounts to millions.

The 'Smashville' franchise is in a world of trouble right now.
 

Jerry the great

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Look at this Preds roster on Puckpedia. They're aging out fast. Up front, O'Reilly and Marchessault are 33 and Stamkos is 34. And Nyqist is 35. Even Forsberg has hit the big 30.

On the back end, Josi is 34 and the ageless Luke Schenn is 35. Even their goaltenders are no spring chickens. Saros is 29, but with a ton of miles on his odometer and Wedgewood is 32.

This was a team built to win 'yesterday'. They're now 4-9-1 and in a month, the 'big selloff' could be in full swing. But it won't be easy, because some of these contracts are terrible.

And they're also paying the price for some awful contracts signed when Poile was the GM. I was stunned to see how much 'retained' contract money they're carrying on the books. Big bucks retained for the likes of Duchesne, Johannson, Turris and Ekholm. It amounts to millions.

The 'Smashville' franchise is in a world of trouble right now.
I tried listening to the episode of "Frankly Speaking" when Trotz was the guest. Honestly didn't get through much of it because I can't stand listening to Seravalli, but i heard enough. Their whole strategy was to bring in "proven winners" to insulate their young guys (sound familiar?) and to keep spaces available for said young guys. The problem, IMO, was obvious: what young guys? Is he talking about Tomasino, Evangelista, Parssinen, L'Heureux? Those guys are as mid as mid gets.

They literally have no young guys in the system that move the needle enough to be considered a lock to be future core pieces. Actually, their AHL goalies look pretty good, but both are in their mid 20's and stuck behind recently minted Saros.

They had oodles of cap space and future draft capital, but instead of using their position to take advantage of desperate/impatient GMs , they signed some absolutely head scratching contracts of their own.

They should have delt Saros, ran with Askarov/Lankinen and monetized the bejesus out of their cap space until the duchene dead cap peak was in the rearview. It's too bad they outperformed expectations last season, because the hope it gave was false and now they've painted themselves into a corner.
 

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I tried listening to the episode of "Frankly Speaking" when Trotz was the guest. Honestly didn't get through much of it because I can't stand listening to Seravalli, but i heard enough. Their whole strategy was to bring in "proven winners" to insulate their young guys (sound familiar?) and to keep spaces available for said young guys. The problem, IMO, was obvious: what young guys? Is he talking about Tomasino, Evangelista, Parssinen, L'Heureux? Those guys are as mid as mid gets.

They literally have no young guys in the system that move the needle enough to be considered a lock to be future core pieces. Actually, their AHL goalies look pretty good, but both are in their mid 20's and stuck behind recently minted Saros.

They had oodles of cap space and future draft capital, but instead of using their position to take advantage of desperate/impatient GMs , they signed some absolutely head scratching contracts of their own.

They should have delt Saros, ran with Askarov/Lankinen and monetized the bejesus out of their cap space until the duchene dead cap peak was in the rearview. It's too bad they outperformed expectations last season, because the hope it gave was false and now they've painted themselves into a corner.
I could never get my head around the fact that Josi is 34

I still remember when they made the SCF with a ridiculously stacked top4 of
Josi-Ellas
Ekholm-Subban
And Josi was the young player
 

Jerry the great

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I could never get my head around the fact that Josi is 34

I still remember when they made the SCF with a ridiculously stacked top4 of
Josi-Ellas
Ekholm-Subban
And Josi was the young player
time keeps on ticking ticking ticking...... into the future.

edit slipping not ticking.
 
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I dont think the Canucks are going to let Lankinen go

We've found a completely viable alternative that derisks us against Demko 1) not coming back soon 2) coming back and not playing at 100% and 3) not playing again this season.

There's is not a chance in hell we're giving that up to try and scoop a pick.

Hell, we may need him signed for a few years to give us at worst a 1A/1B goalie platoon, as we are constantly reminded how unreliable Demko's health is.
 

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We've found a completely viable alternative that derisks us against Demko 1) not coming back soon 2) coming back and not playing at 100% and 3) not playing again this season.

There's is not a chance in hell we're giving that up to try and scoop a pick.

Hell, we may need him signed for a few years to give us at worst a 1A/1B goalie platoon, as we are constantly reminded how unreliable Demko's health is.
Will need cap room to do so. Already increasing Hogs by $2 mill for next season, plus the OEL dead cap increases another $2 mill. That is basically the salary cap bump that is expected from $88 mill to $92/93 mill. And Boeser needs a new deal.

So, something significant needs to come off the roster to accommodate him.
 

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We've found a completely viable alternative that derisks us against Demko 1) not coming back soon 2) coming back and not playing at 100% and 3) not playing again this season.

There's is not a chance in hell we're giving that up to try and scoop a pick.

Hell, we may need him signed for a few years to give us at worst a 1A/1B goalie platoon, as we are constantly reminded how unreliable Demko's health is.
Lankinen is only 1 year older than Demko

There’s a chance that Demko might just be injury prone forever
 

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