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andora said:
What system is this
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It's just a model that a guy created. Some are very against any sort of information except their own. Which is hilarious because I've found that the scouting reports of the hockey forums crowd, if monitored is something of a massive joke but some will still revere themselves as scouting gods no matter how bad they actually are at projecting players.
 
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ManVanFan said:
It's just a model that a guy created. Some are very against any sort of information except their own. Which is hilarious because I've found that the scouting reports of the hockey forums crowd, if monitored is something of a massive joke but some will still revere themselves as scouting gods no matter how bad they actually are at projecting players.
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Is their info in to how he calculates
 
Rangers need to get a board guy on this line with Miller and Panarin. Someone who's going to be tight to Miller and be ready to win those battles on the walls when he rims it in the o-zone

Holy Ryan Lindgren is bad.

These guys don't defend the front of their net at all.
 
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arttk said:
We went through Benning, this is nothing
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Yes, but that further proves we are in the darkest timeline. We went through 7.5 years of Benning and now this shit. It never ends.

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andora said:
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Hopefully you can read this. I have always thought that NHLe overvalued far too many prospects. The 5'8" QMJHL kid that, so on so forth. If you pay attention to something long enough without just degrading it every time, you can see things that coming true that you would have said "there's no way". I also know the projections in the models aren't set in stone. How would one monitor progression for thousands of kids.
 
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ManVanFan said:
If it happens, what would you do?
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Why would I do anything? Whether it's *possible* that Mews turns out better than Willander (of course it is) is not the same thing as whether it's *likely* that Mews tuns out better than Willander, which is a ludicrous statement. .

ManVanFan said:
It's just a model that a guy created. Some are very against any sort of information except their own. Which is hilarious because I've found that the scouting reports of the hockey forums crowd, if monitored is something of a massive joke but some will still revere themselves as scouting gods no matter how bad they actually are at projecting players.
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I could go and create a system to rank the Best NHL Players taking various stats and multiplying by various ratios to get a number for each player. And if it spits out that Kiefer Sherwood is a better player than Auston Matthews, it means that I've created a Very Bad Model where I've weighted hits incorrectly and I should go back to the drawing board.

Likewise, if you devise a prospect rating system and it spits out that Henry Mews is a better prospect than Tom Willander, you've created a bad model. End of story.

Of course posters here are wrong all the time. Even the best NHL drafting teams only get the best player taken within a 10-pick range of their selection maybe 20% of the time. That doesn't mean that bad math is somehow clarifying anything.
 
MS said:
Why would I do anything? Whether it's *possible* that Mews turns out better than Willander (of course it is) is not the same thing as whether it's *likely* that Mews tuns out better than Willander, which is a ludicrous statement.
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You are a scouting guy. How come scouting isn't perfect and the best player isn't picked 1 through 224? Is it possible for a 2nd round pick to be better than a top 10 pick? It possible. Is it likely that it happens, that's ludicrous.
 
Nuckles said:
Yes, but that further proves we are in the darkest timeline. We went through 7.5 years of Benning and now this shit. It never ends.

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Honestly this timeline feels worse, for me anyways. Game away from the WCF and now it’s completely blown up. Just as I got my love back for the team, it feels like it’s gone again.

There was never a point in Benning’s tenure where we felt we could be a good team so it was pretty easy to just check out. Expectations weren’t even a thing.

What has happened feels like a huge blown opportunity and will likely be a what if when we look back on it.
 
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BoHorvat 53 said:
ESPN reporter tried putting Miller on the spot asking he had a NMC and why he waived it for the Rangers lmao (He dodged it altogether by saying there's no disrespect towards the Canucks organization).

Man, I thought we did a good job on the trade but it's bittersweet seeing him in a different jersey.
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thecupismine said:
Good for Miller, but man seeing him so engaged after what happened this year is hard to watch.

Wish him all the best as he gave his all for the team for so long, just sucks that whatever the hell is going on in that locker room has had such an adverse affect on the whole group. Classic life of a Canucks fan.
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Fact is, he raw dogged the Canucks and the fans despite tons of support. Dude just didn't want to be here any longer and played like it. We know what he plays like when he cares, and he stopped caring for Vancouver.
 
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ManVanFan said:
You are a scouting guy. How come scouting isn't perfect and the best player isn't picked 1 through 224? Is it possible for a 2nd round pick to be better than a top 10 pick? It possible. Is it likely that it happens, that's ludicrous.
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I'm not even sure what you're saying here.

Projecting 18 year olds is hard. Weird stuff happens.

The thing you posted said that Henry Mews was more likely to be an NHL impact player than Tom Willander. It's ludicrous. Willander is a top-5 drafted defensive prospect on the planet, was just arguably the best defender at the WJCs, and Mews is an undersized 3rd round pick getting lots of PP points in the OHL. They aren't even close as prospects.
 
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