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StreetHawk said:
So, the person had no counter to the denial from Marchand.

No, I trust my source and it's 100% credible and accurate?
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Wait… I thought the media never make shit up or does that only apply to Vancouver based guys? :sarcasm:

Icebreakers said:
Keep in mind they missed the playoffs in 2015 and 2016 with a disgustingly aging core (Eriksson, Bergeron, Krecji, Chara)
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Well their aging core (at least Bergeron and Krejci) still had many years of productivity left. Chara had a few as well. But the Bruins did take steps to retool including trading Lucic. I would have to say that the Bruins lucked out in getting Pasta and McAvoy combined with their “aging core” of Bergeron and Krejci being effective into their later 30s. They also made some good trades a long the way like getting Lindholm, the Hampus one.
 
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Keep in mind that PHI, STL, BOS all did 9 figure renovations to their arenas over the past 5-7 years. Trying to read the details, but it seems like Comcast, the Flyers owners owned the 76ers from 1996 to like 2011 before the sale to Harris. That seems odd to sell the majority of the NBA team vs 40% plus of both the NHL and NBA team to maintain that tie to the arena for both clubs.

I wasn't a big fan of hearing that they wanted to build their own arena. Just makes more sense for NHL/NBA to share an arena. But, again, with the last renovation costing well into the 9 figures, just seems like a waste if they are building a new one in what would be 10-12 years from the renovation completion. But, then again, AZ only extended the lease by 15 years for the Suns on a $250 mill renovation completed in around 202X.

The whole sports area with the Phillies and Eagles sounds like they are planning on doing something with all of them. Sadly, nearing the end of open air stadiums up north. Can't say I blame them given being open air means that 6 months of the year, it can't be used outside of football.
 
SeawaterOnIce said:
I want a new arena here but there's just a total scarcity of land to ever make it happen (within Metro Vancouver). Any land that does happen to open up is automatically developed into condos.

The best case scenario is the Aquilini's work on widening the concourses once the Viaducts come down.
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aquilini could pay right now to take the viaducts down if he wanted. the canucks aren't getting significant building improvements until an ownership change
 
SeawaterOnIce said:
I want a new arena here but there's just a total scarcity of land to ever make it happen (within Metro Vancouver). Any land that does happen to open up is automatically developed into condos.

The best case scenario is the Aquilini's work on widening the concourses once the Viaducts come down.
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Is there really another option for an arena to be located? The land that that Kerfoot purchased for what was to be the whitecaps 25k capacity stadium by the waterfront? Aside from that location I don’t think there is space downtown that is convenient from a skytrain POV.
 
StreetHawk said:
Is there really another option for an arena to be located? The land that that Kerfoot purchased for what was to be the whitecaps 25k capacity stadium by the waterfront? Aside from that location I don’t think there is space downtown that is convenient from a skytrain POV.
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That location is set to be a mixed commercial/residential development.
 
SeawaterOnIce said:
I want a new arena here but there's just a total scarcity of land to ever make it happen (within Metro Vancouver). Any land that does happen to open up is automatically developed into condos.

The best case scenario is the Aquilini's work on widening the concourses once the Viaducts come down.
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If the various levels of government can actually build a Skytrain to North Van then Hastings Park might be a possible destination. Either teardown the Coliseum or the race track to build something there. Would probably take some political will power though.

Another outside the box kind of suggestion is in Surrey by one of the Skytrain stations. Cheaper land, but perhaps not as convenient and less corporate sponsors since you are farther away from downtown.
 
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supercanuck said:
If the various levels of government can actually build a Skytrain to North Van then Hastings Park might be a possible destination. Either teardown the Coliseum or the race track to build something there. Would probably take some political will power though.

Another outside the box kind of suggestion is in Surrey by one of the Skytrain stations. Cheaper land, but perhaps not as convenient and less corporate sponsors since you are farther away from downtown.
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Zero chance a skytrain to North Van gets built. Makes no sense.
 
SeawaterOnIce said:
That location is set to be a mixed commercial/residential development.
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Yeah aside from that I don’t see it. Can’t be in that terminal area by Main Street. Too close to the new St. Paul hospital. Can’t risk that kind of traffic in case of emergencies.

As for phi, they finished a $400 mill reno from 2016-2023 on Wells Fargo. And this new building is to be ready by 2031? Sheesh….

Sad that these stadiums aren’t getting the life that the old arenas got. I mean what is missing at Wells Fargo for the sixers? Guessing it’s cause they don’t get non sporting revenue since they are a tenant.

Celtics are for sale and they are also a tenant. Wonder what a new owner would do? Push for one of their own? Bruins and Jacobs also spent big on their Reno.
 
supercanuck said:
If the various levels of government can actually build a Skytrain to North Van then Hastings Park might be a possible destination. Either teardown the Coliseum or the race track to build something there. Would probably take some political will power though.

Another outside the box kind of suggestion is in Surrey by one of the Skytrain stations. Cheaper land, but perhaps not as convenient and less corporate sponsors since you are farther away from downtown.
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if the canucks get a new home under the aquilinis it'll 100% be in surrey. that's the only municipality in the gvrd that has the will and the means to build an nhl quality building. the aquilinis aren't gonna go it alone again on a building as long as the nhl will let them play at their current home
 
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racerjoe said:
Why does it make no sense? Population wise the north shore is close to 200k people that’s close to Burnaby or Richmond. It’s needs some sort of rapid transit traffic is horrendous
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All the NIMBYs. North Van rich folks won't ever want the "riff raff" coming to their community via Skytrain. Traffic is a feature for them. Keep everyone else out.
 
Word around the campfire is that NCAA schools aren't the only ones trying to court CHL players.

European pro clubs are also apparently throwing their hats into the ring to land some big name junior-eligible players for next season

 
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Nuckles said:
Word around the campfire is that NCAA schools aren't the only ones trying to court CHL players.

European pro clubs are also apparently throwing their hats into the ring to land some big name junior-eligible players for next season

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Damn. CHL is going to have a tough time. Going to turn into a BCHL/AJHL tier league at this rate.
 
Nuckles said:
Word around the campfire is that NCAA schools aren't the only ones trying to court CHL players.

European pro clubs are also apparently throwing their hats into the ring to land some big name junior-eligible players for next season

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This has always theoretically been allowed, though. It isn't something from the new NCAA change.

I doubt it will ever be a major stream as very few guys would actually be able to stick in major Euro leagues at 17 or 18 and I doubt too many would want to be dealing with that level of culture shock at that age.
 
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supercanuck said:
As a parent, I would 100% advise my kids to go the NCAA route if given a choice. European pro-league I'm not as sure though.
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I know a few guys that I played hockey with that went over to play in Europe after stints in the AHL and they really loved it. Lots of free stuff and get to travel and see Europe. Two of the guys came back after careers that went into mid to late 30s and are now coaching in the WHL.

My parents neighbour's son used to be a goalie in the WHL for 4 years and he turned that into now being a doctor through the CHL scholarship program. 4 years of WHL, 4 years of school paid for. Not bad.

I'd say there are different benefits to both.
 
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Both routes work. CHL you just need to decide quickly whether you have any shot at a pro career. If the answer is no then you do need to use the scholarships within the time frame. But getting accepted while doing the schedule of the CHL is a challenge and big congrats to all of the players who do get accepted.

NCAA, if you can secure it is also good.

I figure if you can remain in province while 16-18, all the better. Really tough for the WHL where the leagues spans as far south as Portland, North to PG, west to Victoria and East to Brandon.
 
ManVanFan said:
I know a few guys that I played hockey with that went over to play in Europe after stints in the AHL and they really loved it. Lots of free stuff and get to travel and see Europe. Two of the guys came back after careers that went into mid to late 30s and are now coaching in the WHL.

My parents neighbour's son used to be a goalie in the WHL for 4 years and he turned that into now being a doctor through the CHL scholarship program. 4 years of WHL, 4 years of school paid for. Not bad.

I'd say there are different benefits to both.
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Playing in Europe is apparently freaking fantastic but there's a huge difference between going to Europe when you're 24 and going to Europe when you're 17.
 
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Thread '2019 Top 10 Redraft.'

Feel like after close to 6 years we have a good idea of where this class ranks.

I’ll go:

1. Jack Hughes
2. Moritz Seider
3. Matthew Boldy
4. Cole Caufield
5. Dylan Cozens
6. Connor McMichael
7. Bowen Byram
8. Trevor Zegras
9. Kaapo Kakko
10. Mattias Maccelli
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I got flamed real hard by Habs fans because I have Byram, Harley, Vlasic, and Wolf over Caufield in a 2019 redraft.

I would literally not take Caufield over those other 4.
 
LemonSauceD said:
HabsCode

Thread '2019 Top 10 Redraft.'

Feel like after close to 6 years we have a good idea of where this class ranks.

I’ll go:

1. Jack Hughes
2. Moritz Seider
3. Matthew Boldy
4. Cole Caufield
5. Dylan Cozens
6. Connor McMichael
7. Bowen Byram
8. Trevor Zegras
9. Kaapo Kakko
10. Mattias Maccelli
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I got flamed real hard by Habs fans because I have Byram, Harley, Vlasic, and Wolf over Caufield in a 2019 redraft.

I would literally not take Caufield over those other 4.
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Well for starters habs fans are by far woat, but secondly I'd probably take that entire top ten, zegras aside, over Caufield.
Harley & Vlasic as well..
 
LemonSauceD said:
HabsCode

Thread '2019 Top 10 Redraft.'

Feel like after close to 6 years we have a good idea of where this class ranks.

I’ll go:

1. Jack Hughes
2. Moritz Seider
3. Matthew Boldy
4. Cole Caufield
5. Dylan Cozens
6. Connor McMichael
7. Bowen Byram
8. Trevor Zegras
9. Kaapo Kakko
10. Mattias Maccelli
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I got flamed real hard by Habs fans because I have Byram, Harley, Vlasic, and Wolf over Caufield in a 2019 redraft.

I would literally not take Caufield over those other 4.
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I like Caufield a lot and he's who I would have taken with our pick in 2019 ... but yeah. NHL GMs would not take a tiny scoring winger over young top-pairing D or Wolf who is fantastic.
 
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