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Yzerman should give Arizona a call about seeing if they would like a D man with the injuries they have right now. Maatta should work since we aren't playing him.

* I am pathetic, he should call Utah *
 
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LongTimeDRWF said:
Yeah, we have no idea on how negotiations went down with Ghost, he was likely looking for a raise from his last year's contract and term from SY, once Stevie said no thank you before July 1, I suspect Ghost took the best deal he could with a contender, the deal Ghost signed with the Caines may not have even been extended to the wings, we just don't know.

Not that Gus tickles my fancy at all, but a 2 year deal is easier to manage as yutes start to arrive and plugs depart.
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Exactly we more than likely only have to put up with him on TV for 1 year. After that Petry leaves and he can sit in the press box for his final year or ship him out in a deal as a throw in or something.
 
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jaster said:
I get letting Ghost walk due to the combination of $$ and term. I get signing Gus to help fill the PP void. What I don't like is how much run Gus has had through 6 games after playing so poorly. Long-term this season you have to continue trying to work him in, I get that, but he's bad right now. Sit him. Having Edvinsson run a PP right now doesn't exactly thrill me, but give him the PP minutes. Give the ES minutes to AlJo.
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I could deal with Gus on the pp, IF Seider is on pp1. I get that they want Gus on the PP, but it should be the scraps left over after Mo is done. I honestly have a feeling they are placating to Kane who has bragged up the passing and playmaking of Gus, none of which we have seen this season. Gus got a rep for being good for 1 season playing with prime Kane, and now we are stuck with them trying to make 6 years ago or whatever it was work.
 
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Oddbob said:
I could deal with Gus on the pp, IF Seider is on pp1. I get that they want Gus on the PP, but it should be the scraps left over after Mo is done. I honestly have a feeling they are placating to Kane who has bragged up the passing and playmaking of Gus, none of which we have seen this season. Gus got a rep for being good for 1 season playing with prime Kane, and now we are stuck with them trying to make 6 years ago or whatever it was work.
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I sure hope they aren't placating to Kane. Like, ok, he gets to play with his buddy, that's nice for him, but what do the Wings get out of it? Kane has a secondary assist on a Larkin PP goal that didn't involve Gustafsson, and that's it for PP production from him. If Kane is dictating things at that level, I'd be trading him and firing Lalonde.
 
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jaster said:
I sure hope they aren't placating to Kane. Like, ok, he gets to play with his buddy, that's nice for him, but what do the Wings get out of it? Kane has a secondary assist on a Larkin PP goal that didn't involve Gustafsson, and that's it for PP production from him. If Kane is dictating things at that level, I'd be trading him and firing Lalonde.
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I hope I am wrong, but I find it hard to believe that an NHL coach can't see that Seider should be ahead fro pp time of Gus. Especially seeing as right now he isn't doing anything of note on the pp.
 
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Oddbob said:
I hope I am wrong, but I find it hard to believe that an NHL coach can't see that Seider should be ahead fro pp time of Gus. Especially seeing as right now he isn't doing anything of note on the pp.
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Having an offensive defenseman take PP1 duties makes a lot of sense to allow the actual best defenseman to be more fresh for all other aspects of the game. I get wanting other aspects to succeed before just throwing Seider out for 30 minutes a night

And I don't know why we're acting like Gus is getting a free pass or "run" or we're "placating"... hasn't he literally been benched for 33% of games?
 
Oddbob said:
I hope I am wrong, but I find it hard to believe that an NHL coach can't see that Seider should be ahead fro pp time of Gus. Especially seeing as right now he isn't doing anything of note on the pp.
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I think part of it is still that Seider is playing the most ES and PK minutes on the team, and the Wings are better for it in those key roles.

In a perfect world Seider would be out on PP1 but someone's got help him with those ES and PK minutes. If Ed keeps playing well and Gus keeps not playing well, then maybe that will shift. But the best scenario is still probably Gus on PP1 but actually generating offense so Seider can handle more PK and ES minutes.
 
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izlez said:
Having an offensive defenseman take PP1 duties makes a lot of sense to allow the actual best defenseman to be more fresh for all other aspects of the game. I get wanting other aspects to succeed before just throwing Seider out for 30 minutes a night

And I don't know why we're acting like Gus is getting a free pass or "run" or we're "placating"... hasn't he literally been benched for 33% of games?
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I actually thought he had only been benched 1 game, but looks like 2, so yeah. I'd still say he's getting a little run, given his poor play. He played last game because we had won the previous game and it's illegal to change a lineup after a win (you'll be jailed), but the previous game against the Rangers we lost and he had at least one bad penalty. I'd say the excess run he's gotten was being dressed after that game.

Regardless, the dude has mostly sucked lately, and I have little patience for defensemen who don't compete/have a low panic threshold/throw pucks away. I had time for Ghost last season because he had compete and was mostly responsible with the puck. I'm willing to give Gus more time because it's early in the season and he's probably still acclimating to the new team, but early returns are so ugly they'd make a freight train take a dirt road.
 
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izlez said:
Having an offensive defenseman take PP1 duties makes a lot of sense to allow the actual best defenseman to be more fresh for all other aspects of the game. I get wanting other aspects to succeed before just throwing Seider out for 30 minutes a night

And I don't know why we're acting like Gus is getting a free pass or "run" or we're "placating"... hasn't he literally been benched for 33% of games?
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Yes, but it is very rare that a pp1 guy is a healthy scratch. Like I can't even recall another NHL defenceman past or present who was used on PP1, but also gets healthy scratched. If he is in the lineup PP2 is fine and about 0 minutes 5 on 5 would be cool.
 
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Lazlo Hollyfeld said:
I think part of it is still that Seider is playing the most ES and PK minutes on the team, and the Wings are better for it in those key roles.

In a perfect world Seider would be out on PP1 but someone's got help him with those ES and PK minutes. If Ed keeps playing well and Gus keeps not playing well, then maybe that will shift. But the best scenario is still probably Gus on PP1 but actually generating offense so Seider can handle more PK and ES minutes.
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I get the freshness thing, but pp ice time by all accounts is easier ice time, which I think Mo can handle on top of his normal amount. Faber for example plays 26 a night and doesn't seem to be hurting him any. If Mo is having an off night, then slow down his ice time for that night. But there is no reality where Ben Chiarot or Jeff Petry (last season quite a bit) should play more minutes than Mo, like was the case in the last game with Chiarot. Mo had his worst game of the season, but he is still the better than Chiarot even during his worst game.
 
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norrisnick said:
And there go the Theodore dreams some had.
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OgeeOgelthorpe said:
I'm very happy that Detroit didn't draft Broberg at 6, but my god, why couldn't we have traded a 2nd to Edmonton to get his rights and match St. Louis?
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I wasn't a big Broberg guy either. That's a easy move to make if we didn't have Gus, Maatta, Petry, and Holl. God they all almost cost 11 mil. This defense needs a nuke dropped on it, but put Mo and Ed in the bunker of course.

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RED WINGS STOMP said:
Very true, 5 d man have their contracts expire over the next two offseasons.

We better not bring a single one of them back.
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Like the cyclops who glimpsed their demise in exchange for their second eye, each day I walk towards a grim fate I cannot escape. Each day I must live my life pretending that nothing is wrong, when I know that very little could be right in this ill-fated life I lead. Each morning I greet my family with a false smile, masking my true visage of ruin and woe. I am a man doomed by knowledge. I have forecasted the future and found the portent damning. Thus I will watch in terror- cursed by the fates: enlightened, and yet impotent- as we extend Ben Chiarot.
 
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JediOrderPizza said:
I wasn't a big Broberg guy either. That's a easy move to make if we didn't have Gus, Maatta, Petry, and Holl. God they all almost cost 11 mil. This defense needs a nuke dropped on it, but put Mo and Ed in the bunker of course.

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Maatta would at least fetch a 5th rounder. Petry could be waived or LTIRetired and everyone is happy about him being gone. We probably could have traded Walman and a 2nd to Edmonton FOR Broberg.

You can call me overly critical all you want, but it feels like Yzerman flubbed this offseason outside of Talbot and Tarasenko.
 
OgeeOgelthorpe said:
Maatta would at least fetch a 5th rounder. Petry could be waived or LTIRetired and everyone is happy about him being gone. We probably could have traded Walman and a 2nd to Edmonton FOR Broberg.

You can call me overly critical all you want, but it feels like Yzerman flubbed this offseason outside of Talbot and Tarasenko.
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If they can't get rid of Gus or Holl, they should just buy them out this summer. Don't pay no picks, you save 3.5m next season and then 26-27 combined you have a penalty of 1.7mil. But Kaders 1mil will come off then.

Unless the pick is like a 3rd or something.
 
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Laf re-signs with Rangers 7 x 7,45 and Igor is looking 12(?), $21,487,143 left for next season. 9-10 mil left after the russian is signed and 9 players that they have to sign. Trouba trade getting finished next off-season?
 
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Laf re-signs with Rangers 7 x 7,45 and Igor is looking 12(?), $21,487,143 left for next season. 9-10 mil left after the russian is signed and 9 players that they have to sign. Trouba trade getting finished next off-season?
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probably to somewhere because his wife's medical stuff should be finished by then.
 
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