Around the League 2024-25 season

[SaltyElkHunter]

Michkov making up for McDavid being a complete dog in fantasy for me.

Michkov 2 PPG first 10 min v Edmonton - can they get another coach fired early in the season?
2nd observation.. Brier must be feeling pretty good about himself

Maybe we can give them Bluc in the offseason to get them over the hump.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Michkov making up for McDavid being a complete dog in fantasy for me.


Maybe we can give them Bluc in the offseason to get them over the hump.

What teams need to tank after this season.. Calgary, Washington? Those orgs prob have their eyes on Bluc

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

Messier seems like such a douche !

 

[AbsentMojo]

Torts has 18 yr old Luchanko C 13th OA 2024 out vs EDM top players...

 

[raswilliam]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846298359834755573

 

[Herby]

Michkov feels like he is going to be rockstar for the Flyers. That draft is going to end up being really strong at the top with forwards. I think all five have a real chance to be franchise players.

Lemieux waived by the Canes, this guy really must have some issues between the ears for this many teams to keep punting him away, it's sad because he has the ability to be a really good 4th liner, as he was with the Kings.

 

[Steve Zissou]

As it was written...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846350917429231646

 

[chris kontos]

Michkov feels like he is going to be rockstar for the Flyers. That draft is going to end up being really strong at the top with forwards. I think all five have a real chance to be franchise players.

Lemieux waived by the Canes, this guy really must have some issues between the ears for this many teams to keep punting him away, it's sad because he has the ability to be a really good 4th liner, as he was with the Kings.

He was great at canibalisim. Guy's a dick just like his daddy.

 

[Herby]

Goals scored by the winning teams so far this season

October 8th - 3, 6, 5
October 9th - 1, 6, 6, 6, 8
October 10th - 6, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 4, 3, 5
October 11th - 4, 2, 3, 4
October 12th - 2, 6, 5, 2, 6, 3, 5, 5, 3, 4, 6, 4, 5
October 13th - 3, 4, 2, 2
October 14th - 8, 6, 6, 4, 4, 3
October 15th - 4, 3, 3, 7, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4
October 16th - 6, 5, 5, 6

Average - 4.3

Individual Percentage

1 - 2%
2 - 9%
3 - 19%
4 - 26%
5 - 16%
6 - 23%
7 - 2%
8 - 2%

70% of games so far the winning team has scored 4 or more goals. Even if you do think scoring will slow down, how does this make you feel about the Kings roster construction and heavy defensive structure?

 

[Omni Owl]

Goals scored by the winning teams so far this season

October 8th - 3, 6, 5
October 9th - 1, 6, 6, 6, 8
October 10th - 6, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 4, 3, 5
October 11th - 4, 2, 3, 4
October 12th - 2, 6, 5, 2, 6, 3, 5, 5, 3, 4, 6, 4, 5
October 13th - 3, 4, 2, 2
October 14th - 8, 6, 6, 4, 4, 3
October 15th - 4, 3, 3, 7, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4
October 16th - 6, 5, 5, 6

Average - 4.3

Individual Percentage

1 - 2%
2 - 9%
3 - 19%
4 - 26%
5 - 16%
6 - 23%
7 - 2%
8 - 2%

70% of games so far the winning team has scored 4 or more goals. Even if you do think scoring will slow down, how does this make you feel about the Kings roster construction and heavy defensive structure?

There's going to be a lot of blow out games against us I reckon, especially with our shaky goaltending and Doughty injured. This vid does a great breakdown of why scoring is up in the league, also goes over the various systems various cup winning teams used.

 

[SaltyElkHunter]

There are two types Of peopleIn this world.

People who can listen to Linda Kohn do an interview and people who lead happy lives.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Nashville is too old, should've traded Josi before re-signing him and started rebuilding, because he's somehow 34 now.

Colorado is going to end up with just 1 Cup out of MacKinnon/Rantanen/Makar. Probably going to re-sign Rantanen to a huge contract, and really seal the non-true contender deal.

 

[Herby]

There's going to be a lot of blow out games against us I reckon, especially with our shaky goaltending and Doughty injured. This vid does a great breakdown of why scoring is up in the league, also goes over the various systems various cup winning teams used.

Well, of course I'm going to agree and say that video is spot on, because it's what I've been saying on this forum since these guys took over.

It's an arms race, not only are the players significantly more skilled than they used to be, but perhaps more importantly the demand from the paying customer is for more offense, and thus the league has evolved into a league where offense wins and thrives. The same is happening in the other sports as well, so not surprising it's happened in hockey. I know many here who still yearn for Sutter 3-2 hockey, or the dead puck era 2-1 or 1-0 grind out playoff games, but those days are over, and unlikely to ever return, because the league won't allow it to happen.

That is why the Kings roster construction is so massively flawed, the Kings roster construction sure seems to be based on success the era that Robitaille and Blake spent much of their careers as players and not modern hockey. The lack of awareness to the evolving dynamics of the league by BLuc is just another in the long lines of black eyes from these guys management of this team. These guys actually think a roster without multiple offensive stars can win a Stanley Cup by playing a grind it out defensive style in 2024.

 

[chris kontos]

Well, of course I'm going to agree and say that video is spot on, because it's what I've been saying on this forum since these guys took over.

It's an arms race, not only are the players significantly more skilled than they used to be, but perhaps more importantly the demand from the paying customer is for more offense, and thus the league has evolved into a league where offense wins and thrives. The same is happening in the other sports as well, so not surprising it's happened in hockey. I know many here who still yearn for Sutter 3-2 hockey, or the dead puck era 2-1 or 1-0 grind out playoff games, but those days are over, and unlikely to ever return, because the league won't allow it to happen.

That is why the Kings roster construction is so massively flawed, the Kings roster construction sure seems to be based on success the era that Robitaille and Blake spent much of their careers as players and not modern hockey. The lack of awareness to the evolving dynamics of the league by BLuc is just another in the long lines of black eyes from these guys management of this team. These guys actually think a roster without multiple offensive stars can win a Stanley Cup by playing a grind it out defensive style in 2024.

did you watch the florida panthers last year and admire thier defense and goaltending? hockey will always come down to defense, goaltending and one team imposing its physical will on thier opponent.
bettman, the leauge, and all the rest of the cheerleaders can WANT hockey to be completely an offensive game but the fact remains that defense wins championships. that is unless the nhl is turned into pro soccer with the constant diving to create manpower imbalances within the games and other officiating bs. whats deplorable is the attempts to turn a contact sport into a non contact sport. presently there is a good balance between physicality and the outright violence of the 70's. but whining for more offense and a kinder gentler contact sport is asinine.
blake and robitaille's goal is not roster building or winning hockey games. thier mission is to hold down payroll, increase the bottom line and maintain thier and their cronys jobs. its obvious to the most casual observer that on ice success has a low priority to the present management team.

 

[BigKing]

Goals scored by the winning teams so far this season

October 8th - 3, 6, 5
October 9th - 1, 6, 6, 6, 8
October 10th - 6, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 4, 3, 5
October 11th - 4, 2, 3, 4
October 12th - 2, 6, 5, 2, 6, 3, 5, 5, 3, 4, 6, 4, 5
October 13th - 3, 4, 2, 2
October 14th - 8, 6, 6, 4, 4, 3
October 15th - 4, 3, 3, 7, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4
October 16th - 6, 5, 5, 6

Average - 4.3

Individual Percentage

1 - 2%
2 - 9%
3 - 19%
4 - 26%
5 - 16%
6 - 23%
7 - 2%
8 - 2%

70% of games so far the winning team has scored 4 or more goals. Even if you do think scoring will slow down, how does this make you feel about the Kings roster construction and heavy defensive structure?

That's cool and all, but what's the math on teams losing when scoring seven or more?

 

[lumbergh]

Goals scored by the winning teams so far this season

October 8th - 3, 6, 5
October 9th - 1, 6, 6, 6, 8
October 10th - 6, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 4, 3, 5
October 11th - 4, 2, 3, 4
October 12th - 2, 6, 5, 2, 6, 3, 5, 5, 3, 4, 6, 4, 5
October 13th - 3, 4, 2, 2
October 14th - 8, 6, 6, 4, 4, 3
October 15th - 4, 3, 3, 7, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4
October 16th - 6, 5, 5, 6

Average - 4.3

Individual Percentage

1 - 2%
2 - 9%
3 - 19%
4 - 26%
5 - 16%
6 - 23%
7 - 2%
8 - 2%

70% of games so far the winning team has scored 4 or more goals. Even if you do think scoring will slow down, how does this make you feel about the Kings roster construction and heavy defensive structure?

It's not a 3-2 league any more. As much as execs and coaches talk about defense, you HAVE TO SCORE in this league to win. Looking at that list, you can see 3 goals doesn't cut it. The record of teams scoring exactly 3 goals in a game this season is:

12-10-2

Point % (54.2%) wise that's basically slightly below average.

The team that gets to 4 goals first almost invariably wins the game. Out of 77 games so far, 47 of them (61%) have at least one team scoring 4 goals. Out of those 47 games, the record of the team scoring 4 goals FIRST is:

41-0-6

No team has lost in regulation if they score 4 goals first. SCORE EARLY, SCORE OFTEN, WIN.

 

[lumbergh]

That's cool and all, but what's the math on teams losing when scoring seven or more?

Record of teams scoring 7 goals or more in a game this season:

3-0-1

You know who is responsible for that overtime loss.

 

[chris kontos]

SCIENCE!

 

[Herby]

did you watch the florida panthers last year and admire thier defense and goaltending? hockey will always come down to defense, goaltending and one team imposing its physical will on thier opponent.
bettman, the leauge, and all the rest of the cheerleaders can WANT hockey to be completely an offensive game but the fact remains that defense wins championships. that is unless the nhl is turned into pro soccer with the constant diving to create manpower imbalances within the games and other officiating bs. whats deplorable is the attempts to turn a contact sport into a non contact sport. presently there is a good balance between physicality and the outright violence of the 70's. but whining for more offense and a kinder gentler contact sport is asinine.
blake and robitaille's goal is not roster building or winning hockey games. thier mission is to hold down payroll, increase the bottom line and maintain thier and their cronys jobs. its obvious to the most casual observer that on ice success has a low priority to the present management team.

Never said defense isn't important, it's just less important than having a potent offense, same situation in the NFL. The leagues are geared this way because that is what the paying customers want to see.

The Kings are trying to run the ball, play defense and win 3-2 in a league that is more geared towards 4-3 games. The offensive teams are having an easier time scoring vs. the defensive oriented teams than the defensive oriented teams are of slowing them down, I don't believe that is by accident.

 

[Schmooley]

Never said defense isn't important, it's just less important than having a potent offense, same situation in the NFL. The leagues are geared this way because that is what the paying customers want to see.

The Kings are trying to run the ball, play defense and win 3-2 in a league that is more geared towards 4-3 games. The offensive teams are having an easier time scoring vs. the defensive oriented teams than the defensive oriented teams are of slowing them down, I don't believe that is by accident.

Reffing is also playing a big part in it. There are so many penalties called now. The flow of the game changes so much. Teams are mostly given equal chances but coming at different times shifting momentum.
Its much harder to grind another team down for a full 60 minutes when you are down a man for 10-12 minutes. And also having a powerplay for 10-12 minutes a game disrupts running 4 lines efficiently.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Quick is 6 wins from 400.

 

[King'sPawn]

Never said defense isn't important, it's just less important than having a potent offense, same situation in the NFL. The leagues are geared this way because that is what the paying customers want to see.

The Kings are trying to run the ball, play defense and win 3-2 in a league that is more geared towards 4-3 games. The offensive teams are having an easier time scoring vs. the defensive oriented teams than the defensive oriented teams are of slowing them down, I don't believe that is by accident.

I think the nature of success in the NHL ebbs and flows. It's absolutely an arms race, but it's also like the stock market - if you join late, you're behind.

That's why more than trying to catch up to the NHL, you set your own plan, vision, and identity for the team. If your team is already up to speed, it could be ahead of the next arms race.

 

[bland]

I think the nature of success in the NHL ebbs and flows. It's absolutely an arms race, but it's also like the stock market - if you join late, you're behind.

That's why more than trying to catch up to the NHL, you set your own plan, vision, and identity for the team. If your team is already up to speed, it could be ahead of the next arms race.

Couldn't agree more. There is no equation to winning, you have to see what you have and make sure you have the assets available to fill the gaps. Teams that build their identity organically and with patience don't need to follow the trends of the day. Hell, just look at how much the thinned herd of physicality has been going for now as a reaction to teams who went overboard chasing quicker, smaller puck movement. Winners set the trends, they don't follow them.

The Kings maxed out their credit cards on fancy rims to support any aging transmission. THAT was their problem. They mishandled their assets to support a decaying infrastructure. Had nothing to do with needing to keep up with the Joneseseseses.

 

[KINGS17]

That's cool and all, but what's the math on teams losing when scoring seven or more?

It is now a 4-3 league.

 

[King'sPawn]

Couldn't agree more. There is no equation to winning, you have to see what you have and make sure you have the assets available to fill the gaps. Teams that build their identity organically and with patience don't need to follow the trends of the day. Hell, just look at how much the thinned herd of physicality has been going for now as a reaction to teams who went overboard chasing quicker, smaller puck movement. Winners set the trends, they don't follow them.

The Kings maxed out their credit cards on fancy rims to support any aging transmission. THAT was their problem. They mishandled their assets to support a decaying infrastructure. Had nothing to do with needing to keep up with the Joneseseseses.

Yep. Remember when Anaheim got Ryan Kesler to counter Kopitar?

Or when the Kings got Kovalchuk to counter Vegas?

Or when the Kings got Fiala to counter Edmonton?