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Peasy

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I’ve read that Manhattan has a lot of distractions for wealthy folks Zibby the DJ looks as disinterested as the captain they’ve made it clear they want to get rid of, toxic and very poorly handled by Drury
Apparently players are not happy with what Drury has been doing. Theyre not happy about the waiving of Goodrow and wink wink deal with his former buddy Grier. And now they not happy with Drury airing out the dirty laundry saying x players are avail.

Yeah most of the team has been playin like shit, but Drury is an idiot and shit gm too.
 
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Apparently players are not happy with what Drury has been doing. Theyre not happy about the waiving of Goodrow and wink wink deal with his former buddy Grier. And now they not happy with Drury airing out the dirty laundry saying x players are avail.

Yeah most of the team has been playin like shit, but Drury is an idiot and shit gm too.

Makes you wonder where they’d be without Shesty in net
 

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Would Ducks want to keep Fowler and target playoffs? I think they could make it work without moving him.

I never even entertained the thought of them trying for the playoffs.

If Anaheim thinks the pieces of the core are all in place and want to try and contend while the kids are on ELC I guess it couldn't hurt. I'm not sure if accelerating the rebuild is the right way to go since they are still bottom feeders. But they need to try start competing soon before they get stuck in a losing culture like Buffalo, Ottawa, and Utah.

Personally I would love to see the Leafs trade Nylander + picks/prospects for Trouba + Lafreniere but we all know that will never happen.
 

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So you'd like us to get worse. Awesome.

Good Lord.

I'm talking about bringing in a 30 goal scoring 1LW just entering his prime who was drafted first overall to go along with a physical 1RHD top 50 defenseman in the league. You're focused on a 3C like Bjugstad. If you think trading Nylander for an upgrade on 1LW and 1RHD makes the team worse, while "upgrading" 3C with Bjugstad of all people is gonna make them a cup contender, I don't know what to tell you.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on what we think the team's needs are I guess.
 

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Good Lord.

I'm talking about bringing in a 30 goal scoring 1LW just entering his prime who was drafted first overall to go along with a physical 1RHD top 50 defenseman in the league. You're focused on a 3C like Bjugstad. If you think trading Nylander for an upgrade on 1LW and 1RHD makes the team worse, while "upgrading" 3C with Bjugstad of all people is gonna make them a cup contender, I don't know what to tell you.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on what we think the team's needs are I guess.
Trouba sucks and is trash defensively lmao.

Laf hasn't been shown to be a line driver yet at all. You'd be giving up a 90 point like driver for those 2.
 

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Trouba sucks and is trash defensively lmao.

Laf hasn't been shown to be a line driver yet at all. You'd be giving up a 90 point like driver for those 2.

Trouba is a much better defenseman than you are giving him credit for.

Lafreniere has gotten better every year he has been in the league and plays with an edge. He's at the same stage now as Nylander was at his age and ready to break out. He is just entering his prime and will carry a lower cap hit than Nylander whose contract is liable to age poorly.

But yeah, you're probably right, Bjugstad is exactly what this team needs... what was I thinking.
 

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Trouba is a much better defenseman than you are giving him credit for.

Lafreniere has gotten better every year he has been in the league and plays with an edge. He's at the same stage now as Nylander was at his age and ready to break out. He is just entering his prime and will carry a lower cap hit than Nylander whose contract is liable to age poorly.

But yeah, you're probably right, Bjugstad is exactly what this team needs... what was I thinking.
It is the fact that you think we should give up Nylander.

Lafreniere is actually really good. He gets zero PP time and yet he on pact for 60-70 points. He is really good. But even then, not sure I'd give up Nylander still.
 
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Trouba is a much better defenseman than you are giving him credit for.

Lafreniere has gotten better every year he has been in the league and plays with an edge. He's at the same stage now as Nylander was at his age and ready to break out. He is just entering his prime and will carry a lower cap hit than Nylander whose contract is liable to age poorly.

But yeah, you're probably right, Bjugstad is exactly what this team needs... what was I thinking.
Trouba is not an 8 million Dman.
I think he brings a physical edge and a good Dman but he is not worth his contract.
Laf is getting better and there is no doubt about it.
 
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It is the fact that you think we should give up Nylander.

Lafreniere is actually really good. He gets zero PP time and yet he on pact for 60-70 points. He is really good. But even then, not sure I'd give up Nylander still.

Who cares if you give up Nylander when you are replacing him with Lafreniere.

Put Lafreniere on PP1 and he gives you similar goal and point totals as Nylander. Plus you get Trouba throw in who was last years Mark Messier award winner I might add. Check out his blocked shots and hits and compare them to Tanev.

Leadership and physicality are two things this team could always use more of.

Trouba is not an 8 million Dman.
I think he brings a physical edge and a good Dman but he is not worth his contract.
Laf is getting better and there is no doubt about it.

Trouba's contract ends after next year.

Lafreniere is on a sweetheart deal this year and then still on a pretty good deal at $7.5M for the next three years following.
 

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Trouba is a much better defenseman than you are giving him credit for.

Lafreniere has gotten better every year he has been in the league and plays with an edge. He's at the same stage now as Nylander was at his age and ready to break out. He is just entering his prime and will carry a lower cap hit than Nylander whose contract is liable to age poorly.

But yeah, you're probably right, Bjugstad is exactly what this team needs... what was I thinking.
Yes laf is good and is going to continue to improve, but I don't think he has nylander upside/peak. Not sure he will ever be a pure line driver like nylander is. He has been stapled to panarin for all of last year and this year.

And calling Trouba a 1rhd is just jokes. He's a number 4 at best.
 
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Trouba sucks and is trash defensively lmao.

Laf hasn't been shown to be a line driver yet at all. You'd be giving up a 90 point like driver for those 2.
It's crazy how people are stuck in 2019 where they think Trouba is a franchise D on the Jets. Dude has regressed hard and is not worth anywhere near his contract. People here are so hard on Rielly who is actually worth his money, imagine how badly Trouba would get eaten alive.
 

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Trouba literally forced himself out of Canada, he's not going to trade his way back. He's also paid to be a #1 when he's much closer to being a #4 or maybe #3 in terms of actual on ice impact. You don't rearrange your core for a guy like him, even if it comes with a bonus player
 
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It's crazy how people are stuck in 2019 where they think Trouba is a franchise D on the Jets. Dude has regressed hard and is not worth anywhere near his contract. People here are so hard on Rielly who is actually worth his money, imagine how badly Trouba would get eaten alive.
If we're doing that, I'd rather try to get Krieder. But I don't know if NYR would trade two top 6 forwards even for Nylander.
 

Gabriel426

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Who cares if you give up Nylander when you are replacing him with Lafreniere.

Put Lafreniere on PP1 and he gives you similar goal and point totals as Nylander. Plus you get Trouba throw in who was last years Mark Messier award winner I might add. Check out his blocked shots and hits and compare them to Tanev.

Leadership and physicality are two things this team could always use more of.



Trouba's contract ends after next year.

Lafreniere is on a sweetheart deal this year and then still on a pretty good deal at $7.5M for the next three years following.
That still doesnt change the fact that Trouba is on a bad contract.
 

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Good Lord.

I'm talking about bringing in a 30 goal scoring 1LW just entering his prime who was drafted first overall to go along with a physical 1RHD top 50 defenseman in the league. You're focused on a 3C like Bjugstad. If you think trading Nylander for an upgrade on 1LW and 1RHD makes the team worse, while "upgrading" 3C with Bjugstad of all people is gonna make them a cup contender, I don't know what to tell you.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on what we think the team's needs are I guess.


Laf finally has a 20ish game stretch where he isn’t underachieving and he’s suddenly a 1LW. How are the teams results when he is on the ice? How does the team do when Trouba is on the ice?

Trouba is an absolute no go, he’s really not that good. I’m also not convinced in Laf, and the other team is scoring a ton when he’s on the ice.

While he doesn’t score as much, a better all around hockey player is Kakko. He’d be cheaper to obtain too.

But yes, our need is a 3C.
 
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I never even entertained the thought of them trying for the playoffs.

If Anaheim thinks the pieces of the core are all in place and want to try and contend while the kids are on ELC I guess it couldn't hurt. I'm not sure if accelerating the rebuild is the right way to go since they are still bottom feeders. But they need to try start competing soon before they get stuck in a losing culture like Buffalo, Ottawa, and Utah.

Personally I would love to see the Leafs trade Nylander + picks/prospects for Trouba + Lafreniere but we all know that will never happen.

I don't think Nylander has that much value.

He's only on a 1 year deal.

And then how do you make the Cap work?
 

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