Around the League - 2024-2025

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Seattle isn’t so good that Chicago should have less than 5 shots over halfway through the game.

 

[ULF_55]

Seattle isn’t so good that Chicago should have less than 5 shots over halfway through the game.

Canucks have 8 after 42 minutes against Islanders.

 

[1specter]

Canucks have 8 after 42 minutes against Islanders.

Weird night with a lot of teams struggling to put up shots.

 

[ULF_55]

Weird night with a lot of teams struggling to put up shots.

Yeah, Engvall and Liljegren both scored ... weird.

Oilers blow a late lead ... okay not weird.
Oilers win in overtime with Draisaitl and McDavid setting up Nurse ... okay not weird.

 

[Divine]

Some teams are surviving off 3 on 3 OT. This rule changes worked out really favourable for teams with only 3 good offensive players. It kills teams bad at 3v3 OT and higher depth/defensive teams. It doesn't make sense to design a team good on 3v3 because in the playoffs it's not played.

The NHL needs to go with 3 point regulation wins.

The Oilers have 5 regulation wins in 17 games. They have almost as many OT wins (4) as they do regulation wins.

The Bruins have 5 regulation wins in 18 games.

 

[3blizzard4]

Some teams are surviving off 3 on 3 OT. This rule changes worked out really favourable for teams with only 3 good offensive players. It kills teams bad at 3v3 OT and higher depth/defensive teams. It doesn't make sense to design a team good on 3v3 because in the playoffs it's not played.

The NHL needs to go with 3 point regulation wins.

The Oilers have 5 regulation wins in 17 games. They have almost as many OT wins (4) as they do regulation wins.

The Bruins have 5 regulation wins in 18 games.

3 on 3 is a cheat code for the Oilers. Just get the game to OT.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Everybody talks about the refs out to get the Leafs meanwhile Dallas was awarded the cheesiest penalty shot I've ever seen.

Every game I watched last night was a blowout. Two of them had a goal scored in the first minute. There seems to be more blowouts this year than in the past.

It's almost like teams fall behind early a couple goals and give up.

I guess once it becomes too hard to win it's not worth trying. That's a life lesson I didn't learn until I was a lot older than these kids. They probably figure they're better off saving their energy for the next game when they have a chance again.

There's no worse feeling in the world than clawing your way back only to lose by one goal.

Losers with a loser mentality. They'd be happy making the Stanley Cup finals even if they didn't win. Then the excuses would be all about how the refs robbed them.

Nobody f***ing cares why you lost.

 

[uncleben]

Everybody talks about the refs out to get the Leafs meanwhile Dallas was awarded the cheesiest penalty shot I've ever seen.

Every game I watched last night was a blowout. Two of them had a goal scored in the first minute. There seems to be more blowouts this year than in the past.

It's almost like teams fall behind early a couple goals and give up.

I guess once it becomes too hard to win it's not worth trying. That's a life lesson I didn't learn until I was a lot older than these kids. They probably figure they're better off saving their energy for the next game when they have a chance again.

There's no worse feeling in the world than clawing your way back only to lose by one goal.

Losers with a loser mentality. They'd be happy making the Stanley Cup finals even if they didn't win. Then the excuses would be all about how the refs robbed them.

Nobody f***ing cares why you lost.

Not necessarily to your point, but your comment just reminded me of this

Paul Maurice last year in the playoffs (as showcased on the Amazon Prime show), with the Panthers down a goal and only a few minutes left on the clock, told his team, "f*** the plays. I don't care about scoring a goal. Just pound their D, so in game 7 they have nothing left."

The strategy makes a little more sense in the playoffs and you're facing the same team so you can not only save your own energy and emotional well-being, but also suck the energy out of the other team, I guess.

But sort of like, "losers, but with a winning mentality". Sometimes you need to just let the win go and march on.

There's a lot of hate for the "respect in the handshake line" mentality, but there is an element where you can play a near perfect game, and the puck gods are still against you, and from a coaching perspective, when you see the team really running and clicking, the tick in the W or L column really doesn't matter, it's still a "win". You don't care about the results at that point, you care about capturing that energy.

 

[Evilhomer]

Some teams are surviving off 3 on 3 OT. This rule changes worked out really favourable for teams with only 3 good offensive players. It kills teams bad at 3v3 OT and higher depth/defensive teams. It doesn't make sense to design a team good on 3v3 because in the playoffs it's not played.

The NHL needs to go with 3 point regulation wins.

The Oilers have 5 regulation wins in 17 games. They have almost as many OT wins (4) as they do regulation wins.

The Bruins have 5 regulation wins in 18 games.

Do you think their fans are jumping off ledges like some Leafs fans did last season when the Leafs started the season with only a handful of regulation wins? This stuff all evens out over a full season.

 

[MSZ]

Some teams are surviving off 3 on 3 OT. This rule changes worked out really favourable for teams with only 3 good offensive players. It kills teams bad at 3v3 OT and higher depth/defensive teams. It doesn't make sense to design a team good on 3v3 because in the playoffs it's not played.

The NHL needs to go with 3 point regulation wins.

The Oilers have 5 regulation wins in 17 games. They have almost as many OT wins (4) as they do regulation wins.

The Bruins have 5 regulation wins in 18 games.

The league will never do the 3 pt standings, the whole point of handing out loser points is to create fake competitions in March and April.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

Not necessarily to your point, but your comment just reminded me of this

Paul Maurice last year in the playoffs (as showcased on the Amazon Prime show), with the Panthers down a goal and only a few minutes left on the clock, told his team, "f*** the plays. I don't care about scoring a goal. Just pound their D, so in game 7 they have nothing left."

The strategy makes a little more sense in the playoffs and you're facing the same team so you can not only save your own energy and emotional well-being, but also suck the energy out of the other team, I guess.

But sort of like, "losers, but with a winning mentality". Sometimes you need to just let the win go and march on.

There's a lot of hate for the "respect in the handshake line" mentality, but there is an element where you can play a near perfect game, and the puck gods are still against you, and from a coaching perspective, when you see the team really running and clicking, the tick in the W or L column really doesn't matter, it's still a "win". You don't care about the results at that point, you care about capturing that energy.

If you're playing hard and trying for the whole game and still lose that's one thing.

But it really does seem like these kids give up a little too easily these days. It's like they get the wind sucked out of them and become deflated. Rather than make the other team pay a price for the victory they would rather roll over and take it and hope to get revenge the next game.

He who fights and runs away type mentality.

 

[Fogelhund]

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The Blackhawks are out to revolutionize how teams defend.

 

[fahad203]

Stamkos contract is not going to age well

 

[All Mod Cons]

Considering how besides themselves this fanbase has been with the team, I was shocked to learn how close we are to the top of the Atlantic. I thought Florida were miles ahead.

I was also shocked to learn how close to the goal lead William Nylander is, considering he's lazy and has never tried on any shift since joining the league.

 

[Fogelhund]

Stamkos contract is not going to age well

It was clearly a bad contract when it was first signed. He's just not a good 5 v 5 player anymore, and that's been obvious to anyone watching him for some time. He's elite at standing in one spot on the PP, and getting set up for a shot... Kucherov was really good at feeding him that. Otherwise, he doesn't have much of a use at all.

-21 last season
-5 in 5 playoff games,
-12 in 17 games so far this year.

Here is a fun thread, asking the Leafs fanbase, if we would have been interested in signing him, at $4 million. This was pre-UFA day. Some people wanted to dump Tavares, to sign Stamkos. That hasn't aged particularly well either.

Would you pay Stamkos more than $4m per to come to Toronto?

My position is never. Anything above 4 would be worse than JT contract, I don't care if he was born in a seat at Scotiabank center. But the Leafs live in the past and on a profit statement, so Shanny might bite on this.

forums.hfboards.com

 

[weems]

It feels pretty wide open this season.
Not really many teams that I think look truly dominating or scary.
If we were to make a good trade at some point this season, I think we can match up against almost anyone.

 

[3blizzard4]

It was clearly a bad contract when it was first signed. He's just not a good 5 v 5 player anymore, and that's been obvious to anyone watching him for some time. He's elite at standing in one spot on the PP, and getting set up for a shot... Kucherov was really good at feeding him that. Otherwise, he doesn't have much of a use at all.

-21 last season
-5 in 5 playoff games,
-12 in 17 games so far this year.

Here is a fun thread, asking the Leafs fanbase, if we would have been interested in signing him, at $4 million. This was pre-UFA day. Some people wanted to dump Tavares, to sign Stamkos. That hasn't aged particularly well either.

Would you pay Stamkos more than $4m per to come to Toronto?

My position is never. Anything above 4 would be worse than JT contract, I don't care if he was born in a seat at Scotiabank center. But the Leafs live in the past and on a profit statement, so Shanny might bite on this.

forums.hfboards.com

Tampa was absolutely right not to sign him at money and term.

Stammer as great as he has been he also has a big decline in play last few years. I don’t remember much from him last few years except that one timer on the PP.

Nashville is going to regret signing him, Orielly and Marchessault.

It’s still early and anything could happen. But right now it’s train wreck.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

It was clearly a bad contract when it was first signed. He's just not a good 5 v 5 player anymore, and that's been obvious to anyone watching him for some time. He's elite at standing in one spot on the PP, and getting set up for a shot... Kucherov was really good at feeding him that. Otherwise, he doesn't have much of a use at all.

-21 last season
-5 in 5 playoff games,
-12 in 17 games so far this year.

Here is a fun thread, asking the Leafs fanbase, if we would have been interested in signing him, at $4 million. This was pre-UFA day. Some people wanted to dump Tavares, to sign Stamkos. That hasn't aged particularly well either.

Would you pay Stamkos more than $4m per to come to Toronto?

My position is never. Anything above 4 would be worse than JT contract, I don't care if he was born in a seat at Scotiabank center. But the Leafs live in the past and on a profit statement, so Shanny might bite on this.

forums.hfboards.com

Meanwhile, Tampa's replacement in Guentzel is a point-per-game right now and 5 of his 7 goals have come at even strength. 13/15 points total are at even strength and he's currently a +9. Good replacement for Tampa.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Tampa was absolutely right not to sign him at money and term.

Stammer as great as he has been he also has a big decline in play last few years. I don’t remember much from him last few years except that one timer on the PP.

Nashville is going to regret signing him, Orielly and Marchessault.

It’s still early and anything could happen. But right now it’s train wreck.

Very rare a team and GM have the guts to walk away from the franchise player and team captain. Got to give them credit for doing so, and aren't missing much of a beat having signed Guentzel in his stead.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Considering besides themselves this fanbase has been with the team, I was shocked to learn how close we are to the top of the Atlantic. I thought Florida were miles ahead.

I was also shocked to learn how close to the goal lead William Nylander is, considering he's lazy and has never tried on any shift since joining the league.

Don’t realize they were that close too .. certainly the team is flawed and has issues but they’re doing well under Berube

Keefe has the Devils playing well, which isn’t a surprise to me. Figured they’d be in the playoff mix.

Also