Chiarelli
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Did they seriously snub Mogilny again? Wtf the story there?
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dahrougem2
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Lol imagine actually believing Vernon and Barrasso deserve it more than Mogilny.
UncleRisto
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Mogilny is basically just short of a number of the bigger milestones. Stopped short of 1000 games, 500 goals, 600 assists and 1100 points. He's certainly one of the bigger names to not make it in, but it is kind of amazing how many big names with achievements are not actually in the HoF. They finally just elected Turgeon who was the only 1,300 point guy not in the Hall. Now we move to the 1200 points guys (Roenick, Damphousse and Nichols) and the 500 goal guys (Verbeek, Bondra, Tkachuk, and Roenick).
Roenick is the guy who is absolutely being robbed at this point IMO. Mogilny is in the top 5 though. Just goes to show how tough it really is and how far many guys have to go. Rants pretty much need 700 more points to have a good case (300 of them goals). MacK needs 450 points and ~225 more goals (2-3 more good seasons and he enters near lock territory). Makar already has his hardware out of the way, he just needs to finish is 20s with a PPGish pace (60+ per 82 likely seals it). Nobody else really has a shot.
expatriatedtexan
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I get what you are saying regarding just being shy of some randomly selected round numbers. I would counter with 6 time NHL All-Star, 2000 Cup Champ, 1993 Goal-scoring leader (tied with Teemu), and he's a member of the Triple Gold Club.
I would then also suggest that it's not the NHL Hockey Hall of Fame.
Mogilny kind of has this little thing in history where he was the very first person to defect from the USSR to play in the NHL. That is HUGE and absolutely should count towards his induction. The fact that he's not in, I think, says more about those voting, and their issues, than it does him.
UncleRisto
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Almost no one should be in the hall of fame. And even those who are should all be players I like.
RockLobster
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Most certainly I believe Mogilny deserves to be in, just saying the reason he's not in is that he fell just short in a number of the major categories.
You could argue as far back as Dick Duff that the Hall of Fame fell to the tier of Hall of Very Good, but it was certainly cemented when Nieuwendyk got in. Cat's out of the bag now.
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I really don't like the idea of having too many people in the HHOF.
dahrougem2
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See. That's how I feel when NHL teams are scoring too many goals. Or the government is printing too much money.
dahrougem2
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HHoF is meaningless because they accepted too many "good" players instead of keeping it the elite of the elite.
Totally different scenario than scoring goals which is the literal aim of the game of hockey lol.
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expatriatedtexan
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The HHOF should consist of only players from the SCF Champions in 96, 01, and 22. And everyone but DK should make the cut.
Some of the people who have way too much influence like Lou Lams didn't like Mogilny.
As a player he should be in. Also being one of the early Russian stars to come to North America should help his case. The fact that he isn't in the hall is weird.
UncleRisto
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I hear those hockeynow websites are a real goldmine for writers
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I'm all for Calgary getting worse so I don't need to read people on here saying Makar is going there when his contract's up.
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The lack of the NHLPA and NHL negotiating this up signals to me we will 'only' see a max 87.7m cap in 24-25 and 92m in 25-26 (Could come up ~1.5m less on each depending on the final accounting with the HRR weighted average formula and audit). 26-27 will be under a new CBA... so today's rules may not apply.
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