Around the League - 2022-23 Season Edition

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Shame we didn't get this version of Paul Maurice in Toronto. I thought he was a total jerk after his time here.

Raycroft and Toskala what did you expect :laugh:

Although, Leafs did miss the playoffs by 1 point during his first year here if am not mistaken while panthers made the playoffs by only 1 point this season

game of inches ;)
 
Raycroft and Toskala what did you expect :laugh:

Although, Leafs did miss the playoffs by 1 point during his first year here if am not mistaken while panthers made the playoffs by only 1 point this season

game of inches ;)

Leafs are a playoff team in 05-06 and 06-07 if they get even league average goaltending instead of a cooked Belfour and stupid Raycroft.
 
Leafs are a playoff team in 05-06 and 06-07 if they get even league average goaltending instead of a cooked Belfour and stupid Raycroft.
Raycroft had 36 wins and up until few years ago held the Leafs record for most wins in a season I believe

We actually had no scoring that year. The 04 lockout absolutely killed us. Lot of our depth was totally lost to FA
 
Boy I sure hope we didn’t radically alter our franchise for the worse because some prick from Russia decided to become unbeatable for a month and a half stretch.

Seriously how does it happen so often that it will now be 4/7 teams have gone to the Finals after beating us in the playoffs?

2013 the contending bruins won their first round series in spectacular fashion over a misfit and upstart leafs team in 7 games. Following the game that shall never be named again in leafs nation, boston went all the way to the cup finals and lost to first seed chicago in 6 games.

2017, the powerful capitals, the best team in the league by wins and points, won their eastern 1st round 4-2 over the young, talented and up and coming leafs- but lost a tough series to their eternal nemesis the defending cup champs pittsburgh penguins in round 2, in 7 games. But the caps made the finals the very next year and won the cup.

In 2018, The bruins beat a soft, uni-dimensional offensive and defensively porous leafs team in 7 games again, and then were immediately destroyed by a strong tampa in 5 games the following round, but the bruins made the finals the next year.

2019 first round- the higher ranked bruins defeated the high flying offensive leafs in 7 games again, then they lost in the finals in 7 against a gritty, defensive-minded and physical blues squad.


Inside the « covid-proof » playoff bubble in Toronto, The 2020 columbus blue jackets beat toronto in 5 games in the "qualifying round" and advanced to face the tampa bay lightning in the first round of the "real" nhl playoffs, the latter team eagerly seeking revenge for the humiliating and shocking first round sweep happened to them a year before. They destroyed the jackets in 5 games. Since that year(2020), it was the last time we have seen the blue jackets in the playoffs.

The 2021 cinderella montreal canadiens, the last team who clinched a playoff spot. The worst team in the playoffs -on paper at least. They were down 1-3 to Toronto and came back to win in 7. Then they went straight to the cup finals and lost to a powerhouse/stacked lightning team.

2022. The back to back cup champion and back to back eastern winner tampa bay lightning won a very close series against the higher seeded leafs in 7 games. They made a third straight appearance in the finals and tried to win a third consecutive stanley cup, but they were denied by the much more deeper, fresher, faster, and dynamic colorado avalanche. A new and different champion was crowned for the first time since 2019.

2023 the darkhorse Florida panthers shutdown a high powered leafs offense and eliminated the favoured maple leafs in game 5 of round 2. Now they are currently leading the eastern conference final 3-0 against top seed carolina hurricanes.

So 2013, 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023. 5 times that the team that eliminated the leafs, also went the cup finals the same year.
 
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Raycroft had 36 wins and up until few years ago held the Leafs record for most wins in a season I believe

We actually had no scoring that year. The 04 lockout absolutely killed us. Lot of our depth was totally lost to FA
37 wins on a .894 save percentage. Ugh.

Was happy when Freddy set the new record. Hated seeing that scrub hold it.
 
We got walled by an all time goalie playoff performance. Now with that knowledge do we continue the kneejerk dismantling of the team or nah?
 
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2013 the contending bruins won their first round series in spectacular fashion over a misfit and upstart leafs team in 7 games. Following the game that shall never be named again in leafs nation, boston went all the way to the cup finals and lost to first seed chicago in 6 games.

2017, the powerful capitals, the best team in the league by wins and points, won their eastern 1st round 4-2 over the young, talented and up and coming leafs- but lost a tough series to their eternal nemesis the defending cup champs pittsburgh penguins in round 2, in 7 games. But the caps made the finals the very next year and won the cup.

In 2018, The bruins beat a soft, uni-dimensional offensive and defensively porous leafs team in 7 games again, and then were immediately destroyed by a strong tampa in 5 games the following round, but the bruins made the finals the next year.

2019 first round- the higher ranked bruins defeated the high flying offensive leafs in 7 games again, then they lost in the finals in 7 against a gritty, defensive-minded and physical blues squad.


Inside the « covid-proof » playoff bubble in Toronto, The 2020 columbus blue jackets beat toronto in 5 games in the "qualifying round" and advanced to face the tampa bay lightning in the first round of the "real" nhl playoffs, the latter team eagerly seeking revenge for the humiliating and shocking first round sweep happened to them a year before. They destroyed the jackets in 5 games. Since that year(2020), it was the last time we have seen the blue jackets in the playoffs.

The 2021 cinderella montreal canadiens, the last team who clinched a playoff spot. The worst team in the playoffs -on paper at least. They were down 1-3 to Toronto and came back to win in 7. Then they went straight to the cup finals and lost to a powerhouse/stacked lightning team.

2022. The back to back cup champion and back to back eastern winner tampa bay lightning won a very close series against the higher seeded leafs in 7 games. They made a third straight appearance in the finals and tried to win a third consecutive stanley cup, but they were denied by the much more deeper, fresher, faster, and dynamic colorado avalanche. A new and different champion was crowned for the first time since 2019.

2023 the darkhorse Florida panthers shutdown a high powered leafs offense and eliminated the favoured maple leafs in game 5 of round 2. Now they are currently leading the eastern conference final 3-0 against top seed carolina hurricanes.

So 2013, 2019, 2021, 2022 and 2023. 5 times that the team that eliminated the leafs, also went the cup finals the same year.
Well over the past three seasons TB, the team that beat TB won the Cup. The Leafs beat them this year and got killed in the 2nd round. Lol
 
This is all Bobrovsky at this point. It’s a bit weird crediting Maurice for creating some all world defensive team here. They were 21st in the league in GA in the regular season, (the poorest defensive team in the playoffs) gave up 27 goals to Boston and then Bob just started locking it down, and has gotten better and better the deeper they go into the playoffs. Bob’s Goals Saved above expected in now 17.3!!! Of course teams look good defensively and play loosely and confident when your goalie is this hot.

Assuming they make the Cup Finals, Bob should get the Conn Smyth no matter what the result is.

.943SV% since Game 5 against the Bruins

He had a .901SV% this year and has a .905SV% over 185 regular season GP in his career as a Panther.

Just f***ing stupid, man.

Sometimes I actually hate this sport


In playoff hockey, success basically comes down to momentum, winning the war of attrition, depth, rope a dope tactics, bounces, luck, timely scoring and riding hot goalies.

You can win all your face-offs, dominate puck posssesion , literally stay in the offensive zone all game and create high quality
scoring chances after high quality scoring chances, BUT the opposing goalie frustrates you, stops all your shots, makes all the saves and helps his team to weather the storm.Then you make two costly mistakes and they all end up in goals for the enemy. You spent all that energy just to lose at the end. All your efforts were in vain. And when it rains, it pours, you just learn that 2 of your key players are out for the year because of serious injuries.

Such an unpredictable and frustrating sport. You can do everything right and build a team the right way and still lose anyway. Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed. You can just hope that your team will get the momentum/luck/bounces
/health on its side next year.
 
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We got walled by an all time goalie playoff performance. Now with that knowledge do we continue the kneejerk dismantling of the team or nah?

Well one team shouldn't be goalied is us. Considering we have 3 players with 10 million in our payroll

We get goalied every year it seems. Carolina also missing Svenchkov and Pacioritty

The fact they even came this far is astonishing
 
doesn't look like they can make it to 6.

canes may not quit like the leafs, but when playing against a hot goalie like bobrovsky, the end result appears to be the same (even with barkov hurt most of the game).
Leafs won Game 4 and took Game 5 to OT with some controversy. They played like shit in Game 3, but i wouldnt say they "quit" on the series overall.
 
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Yea Bob is playing at a level not seen in 15+ years, even more crazy in this higher scoring era. Canes getting goalied, and look to lose in yet another conference final.



This is what you call elevating your game to another level in the playoffs. Many other Panthers have as well. Rielly was the only Leaf to play at a much higher level. Hense why Panthers are where they are and we are where we are.
 
We got walled by an all time goalie playoff performance. Now with that knowledge do we continue the kneejerk dismantling of the team or nah?
Yup let's run in back as see who goalies us next year and make no mistake it will happen. So what is the solution?? My guess is that you find somebody that will goalie the other team(s)? It is no coincidence that the last time this team had any success in the playoffs, they had good goalies (Felix, Cujo, Eddie).

Trade Marner + Sammy for Helly + Connor/Ehlers. Both teams looking to make changes so they could be good dance partners.
 
In playoff hockey, success basically comes down to momentum, winning the war of attrition, depth, rope a dope tactics, bounces, luck, timely scoring and riding hot goalies.

You can win all your face-offs, dominate puck posssesion , literally stay in the offensive zone all game and create high quality
scoring chances after high quality scoring chances, BUT the opposing goalie frustrates you, stops all your shots, makes all the saves and helps his team to weather the storm.Then you make two costly mistakes and they all end up in goals for the enemy. You spent all that energy just to lose at the end. All your efforts were in vain. And when it rains, it pours, you just learn that 2 of your key players are out for the year because of serious injuries.

Such an unpredictable and frustrating sport. You can do everything right and build a team the right way and still lose anyway. Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed. You can just hope that your team will get the momentum/luck/bounces
/health on its side next year.

I agree with most everything you posted and if you go back and look at my post history, I have posts that almost sounded word for word the same.

I think the problem is, when this happens so frequently and against so many different opponents, it start's to look like there's something flawed in the design that is leading to the consistent getting "goalied". There is something in the way that we play, the way that our offense flows or the predictability of our playstyle or even PP that allows the opposing team/goalie to continue shutting us down.

For instance, that Barkov goal he scored in game 2 where it was dumped in, Tkachuk forechecked, threw a big hit that took Pesce out of the play and opened up a clear lane to the front of the net is just something you almost never see from our best players.
 
For instance, that Barkov goal he scored in game 2 where it was dumped in, Tkachuk forechecked, threw a big hit that took Pesce out of the play and opened up a clear lane to the front of the net is just something you almost never see from our best players.
Matthews had a very similar chance in Game 5 OT. Marner bodies Verhaege off the puck inside the line, Bunting hits Matthews uncovered in the slot with time

I do think the Leafs have struggled to generate traffic and rebounds in the past, which isnt the perfect chance many think, but this year we had a lot of prime chances in good spots and with traffic. We generated less off the rush, but its also where we got hit the hardest.

Its one of these things where your losses have you identifying what went wrong, wins have you boasting what went right.

At the end of the day we didnt convert on the golden chances we had. Whether it was uncovered shots like that Matthews OT, or the odd man rushes early in Hame 3, or the tips like Tavares had or the net drives we saw from Jarn/Rielly in game 5.
 
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Matthews had a very similar chance in Game 5 OT. Marner bodies Verhaege off the puck inside the line, Bunting hits Matthews uncovered in the slot with time

I do think the Leafs have struggled to generate traffic and rebounds in the past, which isnt the perfect chance many think, but this year we had a lot of prime chances in good spots and with traffic. We generated less off the rush, but its also where we got hit the hardest.

Its one of these things where your losses have you identifying what went wrong, wins have you boasting what went right.

At the end of the day we didnt convert on the golden chances we had. Whether it was uncovered shots like that Matthews OT, or the odd man rushes early in Hame 3, or the tips like Tavares had or the net drives we saw from Jarn/Rielly in game 5.

It just seems like our offensive/PP attack is very predictable that after 7 games, you can really lock in on how we generate offense and we don't have a very diverse attack. Like say you could identify that the team you're playing defence really struggles at skating back into their own end to retrieve pucks and make lots of mistakes against a fast, heavy forecheck? I don't think we have either the personel oR mindset to be able to consistently exploit something like that. It was mostly heres the way we're going to play try to stop us and if it does get thwarted, there really wasn't much of a plan B to turn too.
 
It just seems like our offensive/PP attack is very predictable that after 7 games, you can really lock in on how we generate offense and we don't have a very diverse attack. Like say you could identify that the team you're playing defence really struggles at skating back into their own end to retrieve pucks and make lots of mistakes against a fast, heavy forecheck? I don't think we have either the personel of mindset to be able to consistently exploit something like that. It was mostly heres the way we're going to play try to stop us and if it does get thwarted, there really wasn't much of a plan B to turn too.
I agree that werent not completely capable of playing any style, but i dont think any (or many) can. Its more about creating diversity of chances which it felt like we did. We had traffic, we had possession opportunities and we scored a few times off the rush while flubbing lthers.

Take a look at Florida and most of their goals were quick strike off either rushes or forecheck. The werent overly dangerous when they had sustained pressure. You could say they didnt need to because they won, but 2 OT games and a win or two on some unforced errors doesnt scream unstoppable attack.

At the end of the day with as well as Bob was playing we could and should have squeezed out a few 2-1 victories. No reason for us tp piss away game 2 or 3.
 
Yup let's run in back as see who goalies us next year and make no mistake it will happen. So what is the solution?? My guess is that you find somebody that will goalie the other team(s)? It is no coincidence that the last time this team had any success in the playoffs, they had good goalies (Felix, Cujo, Eddie).

Trade Marner + Sammy for Helly + Connor/Ehlers. Both teams looking to make changes so they could be good dance partners.
Funny because I was also thinking Toronto and Wininpeg made good trade partners.

I also had Marner ($10.903) and Kyle Conner (7,142,857) as the principles, and thinking about the others in such a trade. I love the goalie idea swap and then the Leafs new GM starts his legacy buy building from the Goalie out with Helly ( $6,166,666) ..

Breaking up the 3 X $11 core players for a 35-40 goal scoring winger and a star goalie for around $13.3 mil would be excellent of spreading the wealth.
 
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