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Wow so apparently the leafs approached Marner about a Marner-Rantanen deal and Marner nixed it.

If he hits the market, I hope we go after him
 
CBJWerenski8 said:


Wow so apparently the leafs approached Marner about a Marner-Rantanen deal and Marner nixed it.

If he hits the market, I hope we go after him
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Could have been fireworks if they convinced him to go and resigned him in the offseason. I wouldn't be shocked if Don throws some money his way but at the same time I expect some predraft excitement that may tie up our resources
 
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Upper Arlington and St Ignatius will play tomorrow at 1pm at NWA for the state championship in high school hockey. Will you be there @Viqsi cheering on your alma mater?

For non Ohioans, once upon a time only northern Ohio teams (mostly Catholic schools in Cleveland and Toledo) would win the state championship in hockey. A couple of years ago a central Ohio school (Olentangy Liberty) won the state championship for the first time. Upper Arlington is a central Ohio high school and the top seed in the tournament. St. Ignatius is a Cleveland Catholic high school that has won about half of the last ten state championships.
 
Laine has just 6 points in his last 14 games… 2 goals in his last 16 games.

while averaging barely 13 minutes TOI in that 14 game span.

over his last 2 seasons he has played in a total of 52 games out of a possible 164.

in those 52 games, he has 33 points. over an 82 game season, he’d be on pace for just 52 points.

wowza.

8.7 million dollar cap hit.

such a weird career.
 
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koteka said:
Upper Arlington and St Ignatius will play tomorrow at 1pm at NWA for the state championship in high school hockey. Will you be there @Viqsi cheering on your alma mater?

For non Ohioans, once upon a time only northern Ohio teams (mostly Catholic schools in Cleveland and Toledo) would win the state championship in hockey. A couple of years ago a central Ohio school (Olentangy Liberty) won the state championship for the first time. Upper Arlington is a central Ohio high school and the top seed in the tournament. St. Ignatius is a Cleveland Catholic high school that has won about half of the last ten state championships.
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I'm still kind of not able to deal with crowds and/or other stresses right now but I'm definitely rooting for them.
 
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If he didn't want to play in Raleigh, I don't see the thought of Columbus being much different.
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Depends on why he wasn't interested in playing for Hurricanes. There was a recent survey of player agents and Carolina ranked bottom five for poorly run franchises, terrible ownership and most difficult front offices to work with. Supposedly the owner is too hands on. Last year they traded for Guentzel and then lost him to free agency, maybe there is something to it. They win a lot but perhaps it is in spite of ownership and players around the league know it and don't wanna deal with it.

I know the owner was also very big in getting pickleball into the mainstream. He got a lot of celebrities to buy into franchises, then went out and bought many of the best players to send pickleball salaries skyrocketing and then walked away from the whole thing leaving everyone else to clean up his mess. Seemed like a lot of shady things going on with that guy.
 
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If he didn't want to play in Raleigh, I don't see the thought of Columbus being much different.
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Voluntarily getting traded somewhere is different than voluntarily signing somewhere. Why would he want to go to a different contender when he’s already on one?

Idk if he’d be interested in signing here but if he hits the market I would give him a call.
 
Now that we have a lot of forwards breaking out and the team is better overall, I'm less concerned about getting to the stage of making the playoffs. I'm more interested in pieces that will help us win playoff games, which is not really Mitch Marner's thing.
 
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majormajor said:
Now that we have a lot of forwards breaking out and the team is better overall, I'm less concerned about getting to the stage of making the playoffs. I'm more interested in pieces that will help us win playoff games, which is not really Mitch Marner's thing.
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We haven’t made the playoffs in 5 years and probably won’t this year either. I’m not turning my head to an elite player. I can worry about the playoff issues later
 
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Upper Arlington won the state championship in high school hockey today 5-2. They are now the second central Ohio team to win the state championship. If you want to know the impact that the Jackets have had on Columbus, youth hockey is huge and, as a result of the growth of youth hockey over the last 20+ years, big suburban Columbus high schools can hang with and beat Catholic powerhouses like Lakewood St Edward, Toledo St Francis, and Cleveland St Ignatius.
 
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koteka said:
Upper Arlington won the state championship in high school hockey today 5-2. They are now the second central Ohio team to win the state championship. If you want to know the impact that the Jackets have had on Columbus, youth hockey is huge and, as a result of the growth of youth hockey over the last 20+ years, big suburban Columbus high schools can hang with and beat Catholic powerhouses like Lakewood St Edward, Toledo St Francis, and Cleveland St Ignatius.
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Sadly, I missed it entirely; a very rough family discussion had to take place instead. (I may be losing my namesake aunt soon. :( )
 
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While IMO the CBJ have struggled to grow or keep their fanbase with their losing, losing, losing over the years, there's no doubt how remarkable the CBJ impact has been on youth hockey in the area. I think most of the suburban schools field a team now and the travel squad is finding great success as well.
 
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CharlotteJacket said:
While IMO the CBJ have struggled to grow or keep their fanbase with their losing, losing, losing over the years, there's no doubt how remarkable the CBJ impact has been on youth hockey in the area. I think most of the suburban schools field a team now and the travel squad is finding great success as well.
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Losing does not help but we just had 95,000 people attend a CBJ game. Let's say event 25k were Wings fans. That leaves 70K people willing to come to a CBJ game. That's a pretty good fanbase for a team with an 18-19K arena.
 
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Losing does not help but we just had 95,000 people attend a CBJ game. Let's say event 25k were Wings fans. That leaves 70K people willing to come to a CBJ game. That's a pretty good fanbase for a team with an 18-19K arena.
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I think it is safe to say that community-wide the CBJ have had a real positive impact on the Columbus hockey market.

While I think the CBJ are doing OK fanbase-wise and I am sure the more they win the more fans they will have (almost every team in every sport falls into this situation). That said, getting 70K for a one-off special event on a weekend is not a barometer of fanbase support, the type of support that keeps a team in the black. It's how many people you can get to pay full price to come out to 10, 20 or 41 games consistently each season. I get the impression the CBJ do OK but suspect there is plenty of room for improvement.

I don't know if they still do those student rush promotions but deeply discounting tickets to get people in the arena doesn't typically pay the bills and like Pavlov's Dogs, the fans get used to seeing discounts always available and just wait for them rather than paying full price. As someone who tries to go to a couple of away games every season, I can tell how healthy ticket sales are based on the going price for tix on the secondary market in an arena. Buffalo we got the best seats in the house for $80 each and Nashville in October we paid an arm and a leg (now I suspect you could name your price).

Right now, looking at next Monday's game vs the Devils, plenty of blue seats available (original sale, not resale) and verified resale seats are often discounted. By now, the Rangers game this Saturday night should be a sell out...and it's not. Edit: I might be being a little harsh, there are maybe 1,000-1,200 original sale tix available for Saturday night and maybe another 1,200 of resale (though those are already paid for as far as the CBJ are concerned). But that Monday Devils and the Thursday Panthers games are much more empty right now.
 
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