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[S1N4TR4]

Cam has been a healthy scratch multiple times now this season. retirement is imminent after this season, i’d assume. weird signing by Tampa honestly.

 

[ThirdPeriodTurtle]

@ThirdPeriodTurtle
I found the highlight vid for the goal specifically, clicked on the "embed" option and it said "link copied" I pasted the link in a post and hit "post reply" and voila!

Thanks!

Nyquist must be reading the boards and liked our enthusiasm because he just did it again against the Blackhawks:



Not as flashy of a version but we'll take it.

 

[ColumbusTrill]

@majormajor I remember you not being super high on Michkov in his draft year. Have you watched much of him so far?

 

[majormajor]

@majormajor I remember you not being super high on Michkov in his draft year. Have you watched much of him so far?

Yes I've been watching. He looks great. Still a bit underwater 5v5 (only on the ice for 5v5 goals for in one game this year) but he'll get better at that. And as I expected he's a cheat code on the PP. I wish we had him on our PP. His battle level is much higher compared to last year and his draft year so that part does raise him up in my internal estimation.

I wasn't as high on Michkov relative to many but I still had him top 5. I'm not at this point thinking that I would put him ahead of Carlsson, Bedard, or Fantilli. It might take a playoff battle between those guys to really sort things out. I'm not of the opinion that any of them are generational players (the Bedard hype is also out of hand) but that's a sensational top 4.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Utah deserves "blame" here but this is a f***ing clinic on faceoffs by Wennberg.

 

[Doggy]

According to Sportico's valuation of NHL clubs, the CBJ are the lowest valued NHL club at $1.06B (with a B). That puts them a hair below Ottawa, Winnipeg and Buffalo. Habs, Rangers and Leafs are all $2.9B+.

 

[ThirdPeriodTurtle]

Utah deserves "blame" here but this is a f***ing clinic on faceoffs by Wennberg.

And they did it with the goalie pulled, I think that's remarkable and noteworthy. Down 4-1, pull the goalie and eventually win in OT. It's quite a feat.

According to Sportico's valuation of NHL clubs, the CBJ are the lowest valued NHL club at $1.06B (with a B). That puts them a hair below Ottawa, Winnipeg and Buffalo. Habs, Rangers and Leafs are all $2.9B+.

It's pretty crazy that 20 years ago CBJ and MIN paid $80M each and now they're worth a billion. Nice appreciation, wild even.

 

[Doggy]

And they did it with the goalie pulled, I think that's remarkable and noteworthy. Down 4-1, pull the goalie and eventually win in OT. It's quite a feat.


It's pretty crazy that 20 years ago CBJ and MIN paid $80M each and now they're worth a billion. Nice appreciation, Wild even.

I see what you did there. Fixed it for ya

 

[Doggy]

Thursday Night scoreboard watching tonight (in a good way).

Go Kraken over Leafs
Go Caps over Habs (thinking wildcard) either way no OT please
Go Canes over Bruins (again thinking wildcard) no OT please

 

[koteka]

Our old buddy Josh Anderson beat up Tom Wilson tonight.

 

[koteka]

The Laval Rocket are 8-1. Their head coach is Pascal Vincent.

Laval has a pretty good goalie. His name is Jakob Dobes. Jakob Dobes played at Ohio State. There are two former Ohio State players that would be nice to have in our system now - Dobes and Mason Lohrei of the Bruins.

Another former Buckeye who has evolved into a nice NHL player is Dakota Joshua. He is currently recovering from surgery. He was diagnosed with testicular cancer.

 

[Jovavic]

Sounds like Celebrini will be back from injury against us tonight

 

[ViD]

Roslovic just scored his 8th of the year

 

[thebus88]

Roslovic just scored his 8th of the year

How many assists??

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

How many assists??

got his 1st assist last night, along with his 8th and 9th goal.

Clearly his shooting % is not sustainable so his goal scoring will slow down and/or he'll go through a slump. On the flip side, Aho's 7.5% SH% is unsustainably low as well, so he should get more assists as Aho start's scoring to his norm.

 

[Doggy]

Reading an article on The Athletic about the decision to let CHL players (and players who have played pro in European leagues) play NCAA college hockey. This is gonna be messy for quite a few years while all the leagues and individual teams, schools and players figure this all out. What I do think...

• This is really gonna hurt the USHL and Canadian Junior Juniors like the BCHL and AJHL (and believe there is an OJHL)
• What happens to Canadian College Hockey (USports)? Right now CHL has a college scholarship fund so graduating CHLers get scholarships to college. Obviously that was Canadian schools since CHL players were ineligible for the NCAAs. I assume the NCAA will expect a piece of that scholarship pie and that the better CHLers not going to the NHL will prefer NCAAs to USports. Cannot imagine the CHL will be overly excited to see their players bolting their league for the NCAA and paying for them to go.
• This is going to impact the USNTDP. Not exactly sure how yet. Does USNTDP say "if you wanna play U18s or U20s you need to be in the program"? I could see some of the better USNTDP players now choosing CHL if they know they can still go to US colleges.
• CHL players have "multi-year contracts", will players demand shorter deals so they have the option to leave for NCAAs when they turn 18?
• NHL and PA have some issues they need to figure out.
  • CHL players have two years to sign while college players have four...what happens when a CHL player jumps to NCAA?
  • NHL can "slide" CHL contracts but not NCAA contracts...not an even playing field.
  • Does NHL revisit its deal with AHL regarding letting underage players play in the AHL?

I do think this opens up college hockey to HUGE expansion. The influx of talent won't fit on the current sixty rosters. Look for more universities to jump in. Expansion of Big Ten and would not be surprised to see some of the ACHA schools in the ACC kick the tires. Expect this will lead to some major realignment of the NCAA hockey conferences in the next 5-10 years.

Brave new world people, this could be seismic in the player development world.

 

[majormajor]

Reading an article on The Athletic about the decision to let CHL players (and players who have played pro in European leagues) play NCAA college hockey. This is gonna be messy for quite a few years while all the leagues and individual teams, schools and players figure this all out. What I do think...

• This is really gonna hurt the USHL and Canadian Junior Juniors like the BCHL and AJHL (and believe there is an OJHL)
• What happens to Canadian College Hockey (USports)? Right now CHL has a college scholarship fund so graduating CHLers get scholarships to college. Obviously that was Canadian schools since CHL players were ineligible for the NCAAs. I assume the NCAA will expect a piece of that scholarship pie and that the better CHLers not going to the NHL will prefer NCAAs to USports. Cannot imagine the CHL will be overly excited to see their players bolting their league for the NCAA and paying for them to go.
• This is going to impact the USNTDP. Not exactly sure how yet. Does USNTDP say "if you wanna play U18s or U20s you need to be in the program"? I could see some of the better USNTDP players now choosing CHL if they know they can still go to US colleges.
• CHL players have "multi-year contracts", will players demand shorter deals so they have the option to leave for NCAAs when they turn 18?
• NHL and PA have some issues they need to figure out.
  • CHL players have two years to sign while college players have four...what happens when a CHL player jumps to NCAA?
  • NHL can "slide" CHL contracts but not NCAA contracts...not an even playing field.
  • Does NHL revisit its deal with AHL regarding letting underage players play in the AHL?

I do think this opens up college hockey to HUGE expansion. The influx of talent won't fit on the current sixty rosters. Look for more universities to jump in. Expansion of Big Ten and would not be surprised to see some of the ACHA schools in the ACC kick the tires. Expect this will lead to some major realignment of the NCAA hockey conferences in the next 5-10 years.

Brave new world people, this could be seismic in the player development world.

I like that it will get more drafted talent playing at a good age level for their development: ~18-23 college rather than 16-20 juniors. But there's also only so much capacity in NCAA right now in terms of good programs with good coaches, only so much ice time to go around. I suspect the change will be big but gradual as more programs develop.

 

[koteka]

I do think this opens up college hockey to HUGE expansion. The influx of talent won't fit on the current sixty rosters. Look for more universities to jump in. Expansion of Big Ten and would not be surprised to see some of the ACHA schools in the ACC kick the tires. Expect this will lead to some major realignment of the NCAA hockey conferences in the next 5-10 years.

The problem is this is happening at the exact wrong time. NIL and conference realignment is likely going to lead to fewer NCAA sports teams, not more. Will Illinois or Northwestern want to invest in hockey? They have to fly their small non revenue teams to Oregon, LA, Maryland, etc. The travel for Oregon if the start a hockey team would be brutal. Maryland and Rutgers haven’t added D1 hockey yet and they are in strong hockey areas. Why would they change now?

 

[Doggy]

The problem is this is happening at the exact wrong time. NIL and conference realignment is likely going to lead to fewer NCAA sports teams, not more. Will Illinois or Northwestern want to invest in hockey? They have to fly their small non revenue teams to Oregon, LA, Maryland, etc. The travel for Oregon if the start a hockey team would be brutal. Maryland and Rutgers haven’t added D1 hockey yet and they are in strong hockey areas. Why would they change now?

Maybe...time will tell. Still much to shake out.

 

[Doggy]

A podcast about the NCAA - CHL situation that was worth a listen. They even discussed the USHL joining the CHL as a fourth division and maybe CHL absorbing some of the better BCHL or AJHL leagues or perhaps the CHL becoming a 15-18 league rather than the current 16-20 (drafting players a year earlier).

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/podcast/240-the-athletic-hockey-show/episode-896/

 

[koteka]

Something the Jackets could learn from. If you are going to misplay the puck, follow it up with an amazing play.

 

[S1N4TR4]

former CBJ player giving an intermission interview tonight. any guesses who! (easy)

 

[Viqsi]

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former CBJ player giving an intermission interview tonight. any guesses who! (easy)

I'm not sure of the photo but I did note with surprise that TJ Tynan is playing for the Avs right now (and getting PP time!).

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I'm not sure of the photo but I did note with surprise that TJ Tynan is playing for the Avs right now (and getting PP time!).

Photo is D-Mac I think

 

[Doggy]

I like that it will get more drafted talent playing at a good age level for their development: ~18-23 college rather than 16-20 juniors. But there's also only so much capacity in NCAA right now in terms of good programs with good coaches, only so much ice time to go around. I suspect the change will be big but gradual as more programs develop.

The problem is this is happening at the exact wrong time. NIL and conference realignment is likely going to lead to fewer NCAA sports teams, not more. Will Illinois or Northwestern want to invest in hockey? They have to fly their small non revenue teams to Oregon, LA, Maryland, etc. The travel for Oregon if the start a hockey team would be brutal. Maryland and Rutgers haven’t added D1 hockey yet and they are in strong hockey areas. Why would they change now?

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